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Gemeinsam mit ihrem Gast Philipp Lein von \u003Ca href=\"https://devboost.com/\">DevBoost\u003C/a> lassen sie die Highlights der Konferenz Revue passieren und teilen ihre persönlichen Eindrücke vom Ostradome-Gelände. Warum Dresden mittlerweile viel mehr als nur Barock zu bieten hat und was sich hinter dem Netzwerk von \u003Ca href=\"https://www.silicon-saxony.de/\">Silicon Saxony\u003C/a> verbirgt, erfahrt ihr in diesem Recap. Die drei sprechen über den spürbaren Wandel der Konferenz: Weg vom reinen Deep-Tech-Fokus, hin zu einer engen Verzahnung von Produkt-Management und Software-Entwicklung. Wusstet ihr beispielsweise, warum eine dedizierte Product Stage für die Synergie im Team so entscheidend sein kann?\u003C/p>\n\u003Cp>Das sind die Schwerpunkte dieser Folge:\u003C/p>\n\u003Cp>Unsere Live-Podcast-Premiere! Dennis und Dave berichten von ihrer ersten Live-Aufnahme auf der großen Bühne mit Pierre von GitHub. Erfahrt, wie es sich anfühlt, vor Publikum über die Zukunft von KI-gestützter Entwicklung zu philosophieren und welche kognitive Last ein Live-Chat mit sich bringt.\u003C/p>\n\u003Cp>Wie gut funktioniert das Konzept einer Silent Disco, bei dem ihr per Kopfhörer zwischen den Tracks wechselt, während ihr durch die Hallen flaniert? Außerdem besprechen wir, warum die DecompileD für viele in der Region wie ein großes Community-Treffen wirkt und was es mit den legendären Gin-Chips und hitzigen Beerpong-Matches auf sich hat.\u003C/p>\n\u003Cp>Natürlich besprechen wir auch spannende Talks – von emotionalen Einblicken in die Welt der Start-up-Gründung bis hin zu technischen Visionen und Hardware-Hacks. Obendrein gibt es einen kleinen Liebesbrief an die Stadt Dresden, vom Zwinger über die Frauenkirche bis hin zur Halbleiter-Industrie.\u003C/p>\n\u003Cp>Egal, ob ihr selbst vor Ort wart oder wissen wollt, ob sich die Reise nach Sachsen für euch lohnt: Diese Folge liefert euch die volle Ladung Konferenz-Feeling und ordnet die aktuellen Trends der Entwicklungs-Community ein.\u003C/p>","https://www.buzzsprout.com/176239/episodes/18945694-spezialfolge-decompiled-2026-aus-dresden.mp3",{"id":14,"title":15,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":16,"filename_download":17,"metadata":18,"type":19,"filesize":20,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":21,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":22,"uploaded_on":23,"folder":8,"width":24,"height":24,"charset":8,"duration":8},"718d146b-2b72-44c0-8a9a-8f1eb7e7c89f","Generated Image April 01, 2026   1 31 Pm","718d146b-2b72-44c0-8a9a-8f1eb7e7c89f.jpg","Generated Image April 01, 2026 - 1_31PM.jpg",{},"image/jpeg","2081625","2026-04-01T11:37:19.336Z","0bccec21-651a-4e94-a466-2ae142e34e0b","2026-04-01T11:37:19.332Z",2048,[26],{"speaker":27},{"id":28,"slug":29,"academic_title":8,"occupation":30,"first_name":31,"last_name":32,"description":33,"event_image":34,"profile_image":45},"954d77af-e138-4f7c-b2a2-57dc16880da5","philipp-lein","Lead Engineer at DevBoost GmbH","Philipp","Lein","Hi, ich bin Philipp (geb. 9.2.1991 in Wien) aus Dresden und mich begeistert eigentlich alles, was mit Tech zu tun hat. Ich bin leidenschaftlicher Softwareentwickler und schon während meines Medieninformatik-Studiums habe ich mit Kommilitonen eine IT-Dienstleistungsfirma gegründet (polylith GbR) und beschäftige mich seitdem mit neuen Technologien & Projekten. Nach der Beantragung eines Exist & SAB Gründerstipendium haben wir die Firma EntwicklerHeld GmbH gegründet (2018). Durch die Umsetzung eines eigenen Produkts und den Einblick in Firmen als Freelancer habe ich mir ein breites Skillset für Softwareentwicklung angeeignet. Ich arbeite sehr gerne im Team und versuche, das Beste aus jedem Einzelnen herauszuholen. Außerdem stürze ich mich gerne in neue Aufgaben und eigne mir die benötigten Fähigkeiten an. Ich bin sehr ehrgeizig und versuche mich stetig weiterzuentwickeln. Aus diesem Antrieb heraus habe ich mich dem DevBoost-Team angeschlossen, weil Sie für mich genau diese Werte verkörpern.\n\nIn meiner aktuellen Rolle als Lead Engineer bei DevBoost vereine ich die Rollen als Projektleiter, Stratege und Problemlöser in einer zentralen Verantwortung. Ich übernehme Verantwortung für einzelne DevBoost-Entwicklungsteams und -projekte und agiere als Sparringspartner für Tech Leads verschiedenster Softwarehersteller. Dabei liegt mein Fokus insbesondere auf nachhaltigen Softwarearchitekturen, der Verbesserung von Entwicklungsprozessen sowie der Förderung einer effektiven Zusammenarbeit innerhalb der Teams.\n\nIn meinem aktuellen Projekt arbeite ich für BIKE24, ein Dresdner E-Commerce-Unternehmen mit Hauptsitz hier vor Ort, was ich persönlich ziemlich cool finde. Dort unterstütze ich bei der Entwicklung einer Inhouse-Lösung für Einkäufer und versuche vor allem, das Team dabei zu enablen, schnell und effizient Software zu liefern. Besonders wichtig ist mir dabei, nah an den tatsächlichen Anforderungen der Nutzer zu arbeiten und Lösungen zu bauen, die im Alltag wirklich helfen.",{"id":35,"title":36,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":37,"filename_download":38,"metadata":39,"type":19,"filesize":40,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":41,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":42,"uploaded_on":43,"folder":8,"width":24,"height":44,"charset":8,"duration":8},"16b2854a-21bd-4739-be96-96111c7103c4","1761819166154","16b2854a-21bd-4739-be96-96111c7103c4.jpeg","1761819166154.jpeg",{},"136060","2026-04-02T06:16:30.310Z","ef1f3dcc-dd4b-4911-958e-6e6f729a2f08","2026-04-02T06:16:30.305Z",1365,{"id":46,"title":47,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":48,"filename_download":49,"metadata":50,"type":19,"filesize":59,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":60,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":42,"uploaded_on":61,"folder":8,"width":62,"height":63,"charset":8,"duration":8},"0c4dbd4f-eb48-4c64-ae31-6334608ad953","Img 1224","0c4dbd4f-eb48-4c64-ae31-6334608ad953.jpeg","IMG_1224.jpeg",{"ifd0":51,"exif":54},{"Make":52,"Model":53},"Apple","iPhone 15 Pro Max",{"FNumber":55,"ExposureTime":56,"FocalLength":57,"ISOSpeedRatings":58},1.7799999713880652,0.008264462809917356,6.764999865652793,200,"937944","2026-04-02T06:16:30.148Z","2026-04-02T06:16:30.142Z",4284,5712,[65,81],{"member":66},{"id":67,"first_name":68,"last_name":69,"occupation":70,"description":71,"normal_image":72},"958f6624-c721-4ff9-8a97-69148f540945","Dennis","Becker","// Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Dennis ist Head of Development bei Lotum und kümmert sich liebevoll um die Entwickler:innen und deren Weiterentwicklung. \u003Cbr>In den Podcastfolgen übernimmt Dennis gerne die Moderation. Beim täglichen Tischtennis ist er immer am Start und seit wenigen Jahren passionierter Kitesurfer. Mittlerweile ist er auch Vibe Coder mit Leidenschaft und überzeugt, dass seine Kolleg:innen AI unterschätzen. \u003C/p>",{"id":73,"title":74,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":75,"filename_download":76,"metadata":8,"type":19,"filesize":77,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":78,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":8,"uploaded_on":79,"folder":8,"width":80,"height":80,"charset":8,"duration":8},"7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9","Dennis Becker","7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9.jpg","dennis_becker_normal_01e352e682.jpg","45729","2022-01-16T14:26:35.196Z","2021-12-30T14:16:28.647Z",1024,{"member":82},{"id":83,"first_name":84,"last_name":85,"occupation":86,"description":87,"normal_image":88},"11d2e9b0-4443-4287-96bc-3930b0ada739","Dave","Koschitzki","// Website // Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Dave ist seit 2024 Mitglied des programmier.bar-Teams. Neben seiner Arbeit an der Website-Entwicklung bringt er frischen Wind in den Podcast und ist regelmäßig bei Meetups anzutreffen. Seine Leidenschaft für Games, die er sowohl auf der Konsole als auch am PC spielt, ist unübersehbar.\u003Cbr> \u003Cbr>Wenn er nicht gerade in virtuelle Welten eintaucht, trifft man ihn im Fitnessstudio, wo er mit Begeisterung Gewichte stemmt. Dave bereichert das Team nicht nur durch seine technischen Fähigkeiten, sondern auch durch seine vielseitigen Interessen und ansteckende Energie.\u003C/p>",{"id":89,"title":90,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":91,"filename_download":92,"metadata":93,"type":19,"filesize":94,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":95,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":96,"uploaded_on":97,"folder":8,"width":80,"height":80,"charset":8,"duration":8},"578c2a0f-e919-4668-9cb4-f5b97252d57f","Dave CD","578c2a0f-e919-4668-9cb4-f5b97252d57f.jpg","Dave_CD.jpg",{},"675668","2024-07-29T14:46:16.725Z","e97179d2-51b3-4deb-828f-9524091441f5","2024-07-29T14:46:16.613Z",[],[],[],[102],{"first_name":31,"last_name":32,"profile_image":45,"slug":29,"description":33,"event_image":34,"academic_title":8},461,189,[],{"id":107,"service":108,"supported_features":109,"speakers":112,"raw_response":119},"0bb193d0-7f95-406c-b851-0dd736e83664","deepgram",[110,111],"timestamps","diarization",[113,115,117],{"identifier":114,"name":68},"0",{"identifier":116,"name":31},"1",{"identifier":118,"name":84},"2",{"metadata":120,"results":134},{"transaction_key":121,"request_id":122,"sha256":123,"created":124,"duration":125,"channels":126,"models":127,"model_info":129},"deprecated","505a756f-bf7b-49ec-8d8f-4068f8011632","77ca11a7773a6189d1f70124a27cf9b6d09ea24222d5c7ff8d3efe5779efd381","2026-04-01T17:05:05.688Z",3839.407,1,[128],"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3",{"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3":130},{"name":131,"version":132,"arch":133},"2-general-nova","2024-05-09.3071","nova-2",{"channels":135,"utterances":40963},[136],{"alternatives":137},[138],{"transcript":139,"confidence":140,"words":141,"paragraphs":37437},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen programmierbare Folge und zwar wieder einem Special. Wir sprechen nämlich heute über die Compiled Konferenz in Dresden und machen ein kurzes Recap damit. Ich bin Dennis Becker und Hier ist Dave Acker, David Kusczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczc Gast. Kann man kann man Superlativ. Kann man fast schon sagen. Ja, wir sind nämlich sehr froh, ihn als Hörer zu haben, der Programmierer schon seit langer, langer Zeit. Und er hat uns netterweise immer schönes Feedback hinterlassen und mag, glaube ich, die Programmierer einigermaßen. Umso schöner ist es, dass wir heute die Möglichkeit haben, ihn mal hier den Podcast zu hören, denn er war mit auf der Konferenz und hat deswegen mit Sicherheit 'n bisschen was auch darüber zu berichten. Guten Morgen, Philipp Leein. Ja, moin moin. Bin der Philipp, großer Programmierfan und freu mich, hier zu sein. Also ist für mich eine sehr, sehr große Ehre. Ich könnt jetzt schon anfangen, ganz viel zu reden, aber ich hör direkt erst mal auf. Und das würde ich Ich mag ich mag diese Energie am Anfang schon, ne. Ja, find ich find's. Geil. Also ich bin richtig hyped. Also ich hab quasi, ich bin aufgeregt, weil ich hab die Windeln an, aber auch die die die Hypbrillen und die Fanbrillen quasi, also Sehr, sehr gut. Judi, die Compiled in Dresden, da waren Dave und ich zusammen von der Programmierbar Slash Lotum aus. Er hat letzte Woche am Was war das? Donnerstagter, fünfzehnte März. Ja. Zwölfter, 13, was soll man? So rund den März. Hat die stattgefunden in Dresden? Es war der zwölfte. Und es ist auch Freitag der Dreizehnte. Ich erinnere mich jetzt. Ah, sehr gut. Es war war der zwölfte bereits und genau, wir machen ja manchmal in der Programmier war son bisschen Recaps zu Konferenzen, euch son bisschen Einblick zu geben, was waren da für Themen? Was hat gut funktioniert? Was hat nicht so gut funktioniert? Es ist das, was man empfehlen würde. So, Decompiled. Philipp, Du kennst Du kennst Du die ganze Geschichte rund Decompiled? Also wo kommt die her? Seit wann gibt's die? Wie viel weißt Du da? 'N bisschen was weiß ich mich auch. Ich hab bisschen recherchiert vorher. Ich kann mich auch nicht mehr gerne dran erinnern, aber die verfolgt mich schon so mein ganzes Entwicklerleben hier in Dresden. Ich glaub, die erste war 20 18. 20 18 war die erste und da war das von Lavoo getrieben und war so die, ich glaub, das war auch so die erste große Konferenz, die ich besucht habe, so weil in Dresden gibt's nicht so viel. Es gibt noch den JugG Sachsen Idee und na ja, da vergisst's jetzt auf Anhieb vielleicht 'n paar. Ja. Aber die DecomPipe war so das erste große Ding. Und dann, glaub ich, 20 18 und dann zwischendrin in Coronazeiten war sie mal nicht. Und jetzt war ich die letzten 2 Jahre wieder, also 24, 25 und 26 jetzt auch dabei gewesen. Sehr gut. Genau. Und ich muss ja Bei bei Silicon Saxing muss ich immer son bisschen schmunzeln. Geiler Name. Geiler Name. Geiler Name. Geiler Name. Genau. Geiler Name. Genau. Geiler Name. Genau. Das sind ja die Mitveranstalter heute. Also ich glaub, nachdem Lavoo das irgendwie aufgegeben hat oder gesagt hat, hey, wir haben nicht Kapazitäten, da das weiterzumachen, hat dann Silicon Saxony gesagt, komm, wir übernehmen das. Und Silicon Saxy, 'n Saxony ist ja so 'n ne. Ich merk schon, ich hoff, Du versprichst. Du guckst dich auch mit immer mit so einem Augenzwinkern an. Ja, ich mag das, ja. Ist ja sone, ein Verein ist das Falsche, glaube ich, wie nennt man das? Dann Eine Lebenseinstellung. Eine Gang. Gruppierung. Ja, eine Gruppierung. Ich hab keine richtigen Beobachterführung. Industrie, nee Industrie, da gibt's auch nicht Nationen. Netzwerk vielleicht auch, so 'n Netzwerk, wo sich irgendwie halt. Genau. Geht da ganz irgendwie viel in Metroelektronik und so was halt. Genau, was glaube ich ganz nicht zusammentrommelt in Sachsen. Ja, was sich ganz viele glaube ich gar nicht wissen, dass und erst mal kommt's einfach vielleicht 'n bisschen der Vergleich so mit Silicon Valley ein bisschen lustig aber tatsächlich ist ja Dresden einen relativ großer Produktionsstandort für Halbleiter und ich glaube, aus aus dem Umfeld kommt das auch son bisschen und dass da vor allen Dingen die Firmen vertreten sind. Welche welche großen Firmen sind da noch mal, was Halbleiter angeht in in Dresden? Jo. Google doch. Weiß ich nicht. Weil weil ich Also irgendwie irgendwas in mir will Intel sagen, aber Intel wollte irgendwie hin, aber ist dann doch nicht dorthin gegangen, oder? Also Intel ist nicht da. Boah, ja, Silicon Saxony, das googeln wir jetzt grade mal irgendwie parallel und machen das gleich noch hinterher. Du könntest auch mal gucken. Ich weiß, dass ich will jetzt auch nichts zweites sagen, deswegen halte ich mich grad noch mal zurück. Ja, aber es ist ja auch nicht so wichtig, aber also viele wichtige Ja, genau. Finierarbeit, Infineon ist dabei. Okay, das ist TCI. Ich weiß nicht, ob die, also ist, die bauen den Standort, aber ich weiß gar nicht, wie weit das da ist. Also gerade auch oben wird ganz viel gebaut. Das sieht Man sieht jetzt mal über die Skyline von Dresden sieht man diesen Dieses große Konstrukt, was da gebaut wird, aber ich bin da auch nicht so tief im Game. Also Ja, aber ich glaube, das ist auch son der Grund gewesen, warum sich durchaus auch einige andere Technologieunternehmen da, ne, versammelt haben und so ein bisschen, ja, einige Entwicklungsteams einfach in Dresden und Umgebung sitzen. Dresden. Ja. Genau. Gut und ich glaube, der der Initial wie nennt man das bei 'ner Konferenz? Ersteller, Creator? Der Gründervater. Der Gründervater. Der Gründer, der ist ja auch noch da rumgesprungen. Also das ist ja schon durchaus, dass er Weißt Du den Namen noch? Wer ist der Gründervater vom von der DecomPald? Also ich kenn son paar Leute dahinter der hinter den hinter den Das sind nicht klar. So kleine, nicht der größte und lockige Haare. Nein? Ich denk. Na ja, also es ist, genau, es ist Ist ja mal bei Alexander Presk? Mhm. Oh, das ist nicht, also der der das ist der, den ich am meisten kenne, der hat uns irgendwie auch immer, der ist im Start-up-unter zeugt da in Dresden unterwegs Ah, okay. Und den kenn ich ganz viel. Den hab ich auch gleich früh im in der Bahn getroffen, als wir hingefahren sind. Mhm. Und ja, der ist immer so dreist, ja. Das Ding ist, mein mein Namensgedächtnis ist leider auch mit 38 noch nicht besser geworden. Von daher tu ich 'n bisschen schwer. Ich weiß nur, dass als wir an dort angekommen sind, Dave und ich und wurden von einem begrüßt und hat gesagt, ja, ich mach das schon seit Anfang an. Ich hatte mit die Grundidee hat er uns erzählt und aber an den Namen kann ich mich nicht erinnern. Dave offensichtlich auch nicht so ihr guckt. Ich glaub Okay, ja. Ich glaub, Lutz hat uns doch begrüßt oder? Ja, wir wurden von mehreren Leuten Wir wurden von sehr vielen Leuten begrüßt. Also, wir wurden sehr herzlich aufgenommen auf jeden Fall Ja. Und von sehr vielen Leuten begrüßt. Genau. Genau. So, den ganzen Mal 'n bisschen Struktur zu geben. Also, da geht's erst mal die D Compite. Ich glaub, wir haben 2 2 Parts, über die wir sprechen können. Ja. Zum einen waren wir ja dort, weil wir eingeladen waren, auch einen Live Podcast zu machen. Das heißt, wir durften auf der großen Bühne Die waren auf der Bühne? Ja, auf der Bühne. Live Podcast durften wir live eine Aufgabe aufnehmen, aufzeichnen. Und das ist der eine Part und der andere Part ist halt, was war sonst noch so los auf der Konferenz und was gab's für coole Talks? Genau. Und dafür haben wir vor allen Dingen ja auch Philipp hier, denn wir beide waren irgendwie dann ab diesem Moment auch gar nicht mehr so viel auf der Konferenz, weil wir zum einen den Podcast hatten. Danach hatten wir noch 2 weitere Podcastaufnahmen Sehr gute Podcastaufnahmen. Sehr gute Podcastaufnahmen. Sehr gute Podcastaufnahmen. Mhm. Mit Speaker*innen, die dort auf der Konferenz waren und wir dann im Nebengebäude, schautout an. Vodafone. Na wirklich, also weil Du hast halt auch Forschung und so. Ich glaube, son Vodafone wurde für so ganz viel Forschungsgraben. Da wurden wir auch von sonem digitalen Mann empfangen. Das hat so okay funktioniert. Aber eigentlich wirklich interessantes Gebäude. Die die forschen da so an Digitaler Mann? Wie wie kann ich mir das vorstellen? Na ja, also es war so son riesen sone riesige Stähle quasi, so so zweieinhalb Meter groß oder so. Und da war halt son Typ und da so, hallo, ich bin der Olaf? Ich weiß nicht mehr, wie der hieß. Und er hat gesagt so, ich kann euch eine Tour geben. Über was wollt ihr mir erfahren? Wir machen hier AI, wir machen hier XR, wir machen VR. Ist irgendwas, was euch interessiert? Ich so, ja, VR klingt interessant und ab dann war's schon vorbei, also ich weiß nicht, wie gut das funktioniert, aber es soll, glaube ich Du warst ja noch 'n bisschen beleidigt. Ich hab auch 'n bisschen beleidigt, vielleicht hatte dann kein Lust mehr. Ja. Das Ganze auch. Hintergrund sitzt immer so 1, den Wodsport. Also ich ist da einfach eben eingesperrt in diesen Ding. Na ja, Anyway. Ja. Schaut doch in Vodafone. Ja, schon Und Du bist Mandy, die uns ermöglicht hat, da einen Raum zu buchen Mandy. Und da die Podcastaufnahmen ja eben zu machen. Das war sehr cool. Mhm. Gut. Was ist denn eigentlich das Zielpublikum der die Compiled, Philipp? Also das Ziel, die die Zielgruppe ist, hat sich doch, glaub ich, son bisschen gewandelt. Also zum Start hin war's irgendwie sehr breit gefächert. Da ging's immer irgendwie man hat immer gelesen, es geht alles. Das war auch so bissel die Kritik an der an der Messe am Anfang. Es geht die Cloud. Ich glaub, ich weiß gar nicht mehr genau, was war Cloud, Web und Mobile oder so was. Da da kannst Du ja schon irgendwie in einem Tag, da gab's dann immer 3 Tracks. Also ich geh jetzt mal von der Geschichte aus. Ich find's sowieso über's sehr spannend, weil es treffen jetzt die 2 Welten und ich bin total gespannt, was ihr sagt. Für mich, ich verfolg die ja schon 'n bisschen länger und ich bin so emotional an der an der dran. Vielleicht geh die Leute dahinter, deswegen ist das alles immer mit Vorsicht zu genießen, was ich erzähle. Für mich ist das sone emotionale Veranstaltung, genauso wie das emotional ist für mich, heute hier zu sein, ist das Und das Zielpublikum hat sich son bisschen gewandelt. Es geht unglaublich mehr darum, dass die Entscheider kommen. Also son bisschen, das hat man auch in den Talks gemerkt, es ist so mehr diese Es wird viel mehr auf die Metaebene gehoben. Und vor allem, was ich total spannend finde, wo wir uns hoffentlich eilig sind, ist, dass Produkt und Tech viel mehr an zueinanderfinden sollen. Und deswegen gibt's auch sone dedizierten seit, ich glaub, seit 2 Jahren oder seit letztem Jahr, ich weiß nicht ganz genau, son dedizierten stage quasi, wo nur Vorträge sind über Product. Und ich find das das find ich halt total cool, weil dann diese beiden Welten zusammenkommen. Du hast nicht diesen Deep nur nicht nur die Deep Tech Leute, sondern Du hast auch die Produkt Leute, also son dein P o kannst Du mitnehmen. Du kannst alle möglichen Leute im Produkt mitnehmen und die können sich mit den Technikern austauschen und so. Und ich glaub, das ist son bisschen die das Ziel davon, ne. Also ich steck da jetzt auch nicht in den Planungen mit dahinter, deswegen kann ich das nicht sagen, aber das ist mein Gefühl, was das Tierpublikum ist. Grade so, wenn man sich die Talks anguckt, dass die Es geht ging halt, es war immer sehr auf auf der Metaebene. Es gab, glaub, son paar vereinzelte richtige Deep Tech Sachen, aber also ich glaub, das ist nicht mehr so das das Ziel davon. Mhm. Okay. Ich weiß nicht, wie wie ihr das so wahrgenommen habt. Ich mein, er wart jetzt nicht auf so vielen Talks, habt ihr gesagt, aber ja, zumindest die, die ich mitbekommen habe, ging schon auch nicht in eine nur technische Richtung oder halt eher so, ne, wie strukturieren wir uns als Team, gerade auch im Zeitalter von AI, so, wie arbeiteten wir da quasi als Mensch dazwischen so? Also weil ja doch, würde ich sagen, das ist eher so Metathemen. Dass man da wirklich so ganz tief eingetaucht ist, funktioniert das jetzt auf der tiefsten technischen Ebene? Ja, das Ding ist halt, ich hab auch überlegt, ne, also ich mein, das ist natürlich auch ein Teil der Weiterentwicklung von uns rum, ne. Ich hab auch also für den Podcast ist ja auch irgendwo fraglich in der Zukunft. Ich mein, wir machen aktuell Deep Dives über verschiedene Frameworks und Technologien, haben wir viel gemacht in der Vergangenheit. Wie relevant ist das in Zeiten von AI, ne? Ist das noch das, was einen dann wirklich interessiert, weil man den noch irgendwie explizit benutzt? Vermutlich nicht. Sondern es geht dann eben wie arbeitet man zusammen? Wie arbeitet man mit diesem System? Na, also es verschiebt sich ja auch son bisschen eben einmal Richtung Produkt, wie Du korrekterweise sagst, auch stärker. Und ja, dann eben in in in diese anderen Bereiche noch und weniger in dieses ganz Tiefe. Wird spannend sein, ob's dran irgendwann mal dedizierte Konferenz gibt, wo ist das irgendwie trotzdem noch Also gefühlt wird's ja son paar Leute noch geben, die es in Grenzen hier und da machen müssen dürfen. Ja, die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die es gibt natürlich auch die Leute, geht uns ja auch so. Im Herzen sind wir Entwickler und früher bin ich auf die Konferenzen gegangen und wollte den hören. Also ich wollt dann irgendwie hören, Kubernetes sind Kubernetes. Wie mach ich das? Wie macht das große Firmen und et cetera et cetera. Heutzutage guck ich mir das halt ich mir das einfach online an oder ich muss sowieso über sein. Ah. So und ich kann mir irgendwie 10 Minuten den Vortrag so deep anhören, dann hört's bei mir schon immer meistens auf, dann schreib ich mir das auf und nehm's mir mit. Wenn ich bei, ob bei euch zum Beispiel bei der Programmier Con, ich mir son paar Sachen, da konnt ich dann irgendwie dem dem, wie hieß der Selte Gründer, den konnt ich so 10 Minuten folgen. Dann hab ich mir gesagt, okay, Selte, doch mal angucken, folgende Sachen. Aber da drin steigst Du ja dann irgendwann aus. Also das ist so, also zumindest geht mir das so Und das hat sich auch mit der Zeit gewandelt. Also mein mein mein mein Mindset ist jetzt immer so, ich geh auf Konferenzen. Früher bin ich da hingegangen, was zu wirklich mir die Vorträge anzuhören und was mitzunehmen. Und jetzt also das es geht mir jetzt bei vielen bei bei der Decompheit besonders, weil ich da halt, das ist son bisschen wie das Klassentreffen in Dresden. Da kommst Du hin, redest mit den Leuten und ja, also und merkst halt aus alt, triffst halt alle Leute zu über und quatsch über die Probleme, die sie haben und meistens reden alle über AI aktuell. Mhm. Und dann redet man über Ja, also ich glaube, das das merkt man auch, dass da 'n relativ großer Fokus drauf ist. Also ich mein, die Mittagspause allein ist Sorry, Fokus auf? Auf Networking, sorry. Ja. Okay, sehr gut. Ja. Auf aufs Network Netzwerken allein die Mittagspause sind ja irgendwie 2 Stunden, was so für eine ITG Konferenz irgendwie schon relativ lange ist. Jetzt haben wir da während der Mittagspause 'n bisschen Bescheid und manchen vielleicht die Mittagspause 'n bisschen verkürzt. Aber das fand ich ja auch Ja, süß, heutzutage zu sagen, ne? Versüßt. Ja. Und das fand ich eigentlich auch aber auch ganz, ganz schön, dass das so eher als, ne, als Rahmenangebot war, dass man da mal irgendwie 'n bisschen reinhören konnte, ja und so weiter. Zugegebenermaßen waren wir 'n bisschen Ging bei mir der Herzschlag 'n bisschen höher, als Johannes Braun die Konferenz eröffnet hat Und sagte so, ja, mein persönliches Highlight heute ist die Podcastaufnahme. Und dachte ich so, oh, okay. Und wenn ich dann dann gucken wir mal und vergesst auf keinen Fall in der Mittagspause da zuzuschalten. Also hier wischt ich noch mal noch mal die 5 Ankündigung. Dafür, dass wir das dann das erste Mal gemacht haben. Ja. War hoffentlich okay. Also ich glaube Habt ihr gut gemacht, habt ihr gut gemacht. Es gibt so, ich hab 'n paar Sachen, die ich, wo ich mir denke, was man noch machen kann, aber da ich hab auch 'n paar Geschichten dazu. Sehr gut. Gut, dann noch mal. Nicht die kannst Du direkt die kannst Du direkt öffentlich teilen. Soll ich dich gleich mal öffentlich teilen. Also für mich ist das natürlich 'n großer Umwelt gewesen, die programmierbar live. Ich fand's cool. Ich hab bis jetzt einmal 'n Podcast live gehört. Ich gehör ab und zu, gute Laune zu kommen, Kaulitz Hills. Mhm. Da hab ich ja mit den Kaulitz Brüdern und die hatten neben Hamburg mal sone live Liveshow gemacht und die war halt schon, also die hab ich als Mess quasi als Messlatte genommen. Die ist halt krass gewesen. Das sind halt so total diese Showtypen. Das hab ich jetzt auch nicht erwartet von euch oder so was, ne. Und jetzt irgendwie gar nicht kritisch oder so, ne. Aber ich hab mir so vorgestellt, ihr könntet ja theoretisch Programmierbar sone Bar hinbauen. Da hätte man wahrscheinlich den, wie hieß er, ich hab den Namen vergessen von von GitHub. Pierre, Pierre, Pierre. Pierre. Ja. Da hätte man vielleicht dann noch son bisschen, wenn man irgendwie Der Dave hätte dagestanden, der hat seine Cocktails gemacht. Muss ja jetzt nicht alkoholisch sein oder so was, sondern kann ja auch alkoholfrei sein, hätte man den vielleicht noch son bisschen aus der Reserve locken können. Der war so sehr, ah, den hat man irgendwie nicht richtig greifen können. Ich wollte immer so, ich fand das cool, Dennis, dass Du da probiert hast, so das persönlich mit reinzubringen. Dazu auch eine Geschichte. Man konnte ja so boten und Fragen stellen. Und Dave, Du hattest immer reingeguckt in die Fragen. Und ganz am Anfang waren relativ wenig Fragen drin und dann hab ich mich irgendwann getraut. Ich hab ewig lang überlegt, post ich jetzt was, frag ich. Und eigentlich bin ich immer so Fan, grade bei den CTO Specials, ich find das Persönliche. Ich wollt unbedingt wissen, wie sieht denn den den sein Alltag aus? Der hat immer so, ich will jetzt nicht hören, was der wie wie der über AI denkt. Das kann ich mir vorstellen bei GitHub ungefähr, wie das aussieht. Aber ich will so wissen, wie ändert sich denn sein Alltag? Wie viel benutzt er AI? Wie sieht das bei denen aus? Ich stell mir das total stressig grad bei GitHub vor, weil ich die mein meine, die machen ja auch 'n, die müssen ja auch großes Pushy voranschreiten mit AI in 'nem Thema. Und da hat er sich irgendwie nicht so richtig catchen lassen, aber Du hattest die Frage irgendwann noch rausgeholt, Dennis, weil meine Frage ist dann irgendwann ganz weit runtergetaucht, weil die niemand gevotet hat. Ich hab gedacht, och Mann, ey, was ist das ist doch das ist doch traurig. Da hab ich mir private Fenster aufgemacht. Bei Wils ist auch viermal dran gevotet. Da ist es son kleines Stückchen hochgegangen, aber irgendwann hab ich auch gegeben, weil dann kamen dann ganz viele andere Sachen, Mhm. Die dann hochgegangen sind, die ja dann auch berechtigterweise gefragt haben. Aber ich war total cool, Dennis, dass Du dann, ich hab hier irgendwo noch mal irgendwo eine Frage, war das, ich wollt dein, noch mal das Persönliche, weil das ist für mich immer Programmierbar, ist son bisschen auch was Persönliches. Fand ich cool, dass Du das noch gefragt hattest. Das war so mein Moment. Sehr gut. Cool. Gut, macht denn das. Ersten Reihe. Ja. Ich muss Ja, es ist, das fand ich auch, also Retop vielleicht noch mal ganz kurz über diesen Live Podcast zu reden. Ich muss sagen, also ich hab echt unterschätzt, ich bin glaube ich etwas zu entspannt dahin gegangen, ich hab echt unterschätzt, wie schwierig das dann doch ist so quasi erstens live, ne? Du hast ja irgendwie so, also erstens Du hörst das halt über die Anlage so, deswegen also Akustik war jetzt nicht ganz optimal, so war also vollkommen fein, aber gleichzeitig das Gespräch zu verfolgen. Auf Englisch dann noch mal so, das trotzdem mir sone Fünfprozenthürde so, dass es 'n bisschen schwieriger macht. Dann gleichzeitig hat mir so, oh ja, es ist 'n Live Podcast, wir wollen ja das Publikum hier irgendwie mit mit einbeziehen und dann irgendwie so parallel auf Chat geguckt, der so, fuck, was hat Pia gerade gesagt, so, wo sind wir gerade? Und es also, es hat mich doch kognitiv doch 'n bisschen mehr belastet, als ich am Anfang vermutet habe. Ja. Aber deswegen war's, glaub ich, auch also sehr gut, dass wir zu zweit auf der Bühne waren und uns beide son bisschen da die Das hat man euch nicht angemerkt. Also das fand ich nicht, also das war schön schon strukturiert und so was. War ja noch so, ich dachte so, wenn man live macht, kann man vielleicht noch so einen sone sone Schippe noch noch irgendwas Cooles dazu bauen, so, damit Absolut. Der Kopf bleibt. Absolut. Ich bin auch Also ich bin jetzt nicht unzufrieden, aber ich würde sagen, so fürs erste Mal war's okay, aber ich hab auch einige Ideen, was wir anders und besser machen können. Und ich glaube, die Faktoren, die Du genannt hast Also Sprache, nicht ganz klar abgestecktes Thema so, bin ich eigentlich recht offen für das zu machen und gerade der Programmierbar. Dort im Setting halt 'n bisschen schwierig, weil wir auch nicht genau wussten, was sind die Inhalte der Keynote, was auch in der Zeit, ne. Ich hab meine ja teilweise gesagt, ja, die letztes Wochenende habe ich das gemacht. Also auch das entwickelt sich halt so schnell, dass man dann nicht so wahnsinnig Ja. Sich drauf vorbereiten kann. Ja. Genau. Plus ja, dann auch immer so bisschen das Wissen, okay, gibt son paar Sachen, so immer Business Sachen und so was, über die Leute natürlich auch nicht gerne gefragt werden, wenn man Man hat man gemerkt, dass man so. Ja, da in irgend eine Richtung zu pushen. Ja, aber hat trotzdem super Spaß gemacht. Also war Safe. War war mega cool. Auch geil grade mit Vampir oder so, aber ich find das immer krass. Also die Leute da Ich kann das gar nicht, sodass die die lassen sich überhaupt nicht in die Karten schauen, so. Das ist so total wie wie ausm wie son richtiger Sales Dude gefühlt, so Ja, ja. Gar nicht irgendwie Ja, ich find's der vielleicht jeder gesagt nix irgendwie irgendwo ausgerutscht. Ich find das beeindruckend, also wie man wie man so eloquent irgendwie sprechen kann, auch über die Themen und so was. Finde ich richtig, richtig cool eigentlich auch. Ja. Also das, ich mein, da war ja auch 'n super, in dem Sinne auch sehr einfacher Gast, ne, weil Du musstest nicht viel hinwerfen und er hat das eigentlich dann, ne, in irgendwie in in in seinen Worten sehr gut eingeordnet. Aber er fand, ich fand auch ganz süß, er hatte vorher, als wir noch nicht auf der Aufnahme waren, so zu uns gesagt, ey, für mich ist das heute so entspannt hier. Weil ich mein, er spricht beispielsweise auf GitHub Universe auch, ne, mit irgendwie 5000 Leuten. Und dann sagt er, hinter der Bühne sitzt die Rechtsabteilung und Du hast die im Ohr, ne? Ja. Und die reden dir zwischendurch da rein, zu sagen, hey, vorsichtig, nicht in die Richtung und so was. Das ist ja Genau, also das das kann man sich so gar nicht vorstellen, welchen Settings das dann immer ist. Und ich glaube, da war war ganz cool, da einfach dass er son bisschen freier Und er hat auch gesagt, das, ne, Folienset, also es war ja seins, sonst musste halt sich eine strikt an irgendwie GitHub Vorgaben und wie hat das auszusehen? Von daher war es für ihn ganz schöner, ein bisschen freier in in der Runde mal sein zu können. Aber das fand ich irgendwie eine ganz ganz ganz lustige Ja. Der Tote. Ich fand also also Retalk, ich muss sagen also noch mal echt sagen, Props an Pierre, weil also auch also wie er sich Ich fand das so krass so, ne, wo wo der gesagt, also der hat eben die Frage aufgenommen, und irgendwie son Bild erzeugt in seiner Aussage, ne. Du musst es dir aber so vorstellen und dann ne, wenn wir das jetzt so gesamtheitlich betrachten, ich so krass Alter, also wieder sone richtige Story in seiner Antwort und das ist gerade irgendwie so, ich weiß nicht ob das eine Repertoire ist, außer dem sie sich bedient, aber es ist einfach so so spontan dieses Bild zu erzeugen. Es war so richtig, man konnte ihm richtig gut, ich fand das ich fand das atemberaubend, also ich fand das, ich war wirklich so wow, wow. Ich war so auf der Bühne, ich hab mir gedacht, wow, wie Du redest, ich lieb das, ich lieb das voll. Das ist also wirklich, also Dropsoper an der Stelle. Muss man seine Keynote auch lassen, ne? Die fand ich auch richtig gut. Die war halt so irgendwie, ja. Ja. Was eine Keynote machen soll, son bisschen inspirieren, bisschen, ne, Mindset irgendwie geben und dann auch so halt 'n bisschen auf dem Privaten geplaudert, wie er sich da sein eigenes Hardware Rack irgendwie gebaut hat und an Idlms son bisschen rumzuforschen und so. War sehr nahbar. Also das war war sehr gut. Gerade da wollte ich dich auch noch mal fragen, Philipp so, weil Englisch war ja jetzt am Randpunkt, ne. Ich meine, wir haben jetzt das war unsere dritte englische Folge, die wir so haben und natürlich hemmt das in 'ner gewissen Weise, dass wir nicht so wie in unserer Muttersprache sprechen können und wenn an der Wortwitze auf Englisch nicht ganz so Ganz so was wir auch noch. Das stimmt, das stimmt. Und eben, es waren ja alle, also ausschließlich alles, was ich gehört habe auf der Konferenz abseits der Talks war Deutsch. Also ich hab keinen einzigen, ich hab keine einzige Konversation gehört, die Englisch a, wo ich mich dann frage so, also ich verstehe den Anspruch irgendwo international dann zu sein, aber hältst Du es für eine richtige Entscheidung, die Talks dann auf Englisch zu machen? Also ich will die Entscheidung jetzt gar nicht infrage stellen. Ich hab da mit Tobi auch drüber gequatscht. Tobi ist also unser Chef hier bei Devboost und der ist auch mit in der Planung mit drin und ich hab ihn noch mal gefragt, so was die die Intention dahinter ist. Und das ist auch so das hab ich eben vergessen zu sagen, die Intention, von der die kommt halt jetzt so bitte die, ja, sag doch mal, die Champions League nach Dresden holen, weil Du hast hier halt kein Google sitzen, Du hast kein Facebook hier sitzen, das ist alles in Berlin und Du wisst aber diese ganzen ihr lacht über den Silicon Sectioneer, die wollen halt auch diese Leute, diese coolen Techfirmen irgendwie nach Dresden holen. Und deswegen wollen sie's halt sich offenlassen, dass und wollen das halt auf Englisch komplett durchziehen, damit Du halt wirklich auch die englischen Speaker bekommen kannst, ne, dass die Leute halt Und das ist dass die Intention die, ob das die richtige Entscheidung ist, das möcht ich an der Stelle überhaupt nicht bewerten, aber ich versteh die versteh den den den Anspruch dahinter. Also und das ist ja für mich auch interessant. Ich glaub, dass die Leute, dass coole coole Talks kommen. Also ich weiß, dass irgendwie der Lovable, irgendjemand da von denen zum Beispiel im Gespräch war und so und die kriegst Du wahrscheinlich dann, ich weiß nicht, ob da wie eure Erfahrung da ist, aber ich weiß nicht, ob man da die dann bekommt, wenn man nur deutsches Publikum anspricht. Ja, ja, ist eine gute Frage. Ich mein, bei uns haben wir uns halt explizit dazu entschieden, es dann auf Deutsch zu machen, weil wir sonst gedacht haben, okay, sonst muss das ganze Setting außen rum halt auch auf Englisch sein. Das heißt, man könnte schon Ja, kurzzeitig hatten wir aber trotzdem Englisch überlegt. Ja, ja, genau. Ich mein nur in den Überlegungen, also wie's zu den Entscheidungen gekommen ist. Ja. Weil wir dann gedacht haben, okay, dann dann also wenn wäre unser Anspruch, es komplett Englisch durchzuziehen, ne? Also von Beschilderung über, ne, auch wie wir reden, so das dann halt wirklich auf Englisch zu machen, damit's halt irgendwie sich dann dann darunter fühlt. Und dann haben wir halt irgendwann gesagt, na ja, also was ist irgend eine Wo ist Englisch eine Hürde? Wir sprechen alle Englisch als Entwickler*innen. Ja. Das ist jetzt nicht so das Ding. Ja. Aber natürlich ist es trotzdem Diese Natürlichkeit fällt halt manchen dann einfach schwerer. Und deswegen haben wir bei uns gesagt, na gut, wir machen die Konferenz per se auf Deutsch. Haben wir bei uns gesagt, na gut, wir machen die Konferenz per se auf Deutsch, sind aber offen für englische Talks, weil ich glaube, einen englischen Talk zu folgen, das ist jetzt nicht so die Hürde für die meisten und ja, haben dadurch vielleicht nicht mehr die gleiche Einschränkung. Und ob jetzt der Natürlich ist das anderen auch 'n Thema, haben wir auch drüber gesprochen, ne? Wenn der Gast dann hier ist und sich auch gerne noch 'n bisschen integrieren würde und jetzt nicht nur irgendwie da ist, dann ist das son kleiner Bruch. Aber ja, deswegen sind wir für uns auf Deutsch gegangen Und ich fand es nur, also ich hab, wie gesagt, da halt wenig Englisch abseits der Bühne mitbekommen. Also gar kein Englisch. Ich auch gar nicht. Also ich bin da auch Und deswegen halt son bisschen die Frage, okay, ist ist das richtig? Weil ich fand das, weil ich war auch interessant, was Du gerade gesagt hast, Philipp, so diese bisschen so wie son Klassentreffen, dass es diesen Aspekt hat. Und das war ja uns ja auch wichtig, ne, weil wir gesagt haben, hey, wir also wir machen die Programmier Con, wir sind die Programmierbar, alle kennen uns, weil wir einen deutschen Podcast machen, so. Und das wär 'n starker Bruch, wenn wir halt jetzt sagen, okay, ist auf Englisch, weil unsere Community eigentlich ja zu 100 Prozent Deutsch ist, hätten wir jetzt gesagt, so. Und das ist natürlich dann auch irgendwie diese dieses Klassentreffen oder dieses Intimitätsfeeling, weil man dann 'n bisschen diese Natürlichkeit noch mal drin hat, irgendwie stärker hervorhebt, was bei uns sehr gut funktioniert hat und aber würde ich auch sagen, auch auf der Dekompile sehr gut funktioniert hat. Ja. Ja. Deswegen also ja, macht da glaube ich dann auch noch mal ein bisschen den Unterschied. Ja. Ja, das ja. Und am Ende kann man vielleicht auch wieder, keine Ahnung, vielleicht hab ich's auch grade zu sehr auf uns bezogen. Weißt Du, also uns wär's leichter jetzt gefallen, das ganze Ding auf Deutsch zu machen. Ja. So, in dem Podcast Setting vor allen Dingen. Auf jeden Fall mehr als in im Talksetting. Ja. Habt ihr gefragt, ob ihr das machen könnt? Also haben die auch klar gesagt, Englisch bitte oder? Also mit Tobi meine ich im Vorfeld haben wir es mal andiskutiert und haben gesagt, ne, eigentlich ist es ja bei uns Deutsch und da war dann die die Ansage, dass halt das ganze Programm auf Englisch ist. Vor Ort lustigerweise, Johannes hatte dann auch noch mal kurz vorher gefragt, sag mal, macht ne? Macht ihr jetzt eigentlich auf Deutsch oder auf auf Englisch? Und dann sagten wir so, wir haben, glaube ich, die Ansage, das auf Englisch zu machen. Ja, okay. Also, aber da da Ja, aber da da Jetzt machen wir sie's auf Deutsch, by the way. Gesprochen. Da war's doch nicht mehr so da war's doch nicht mehr so 100 Prozent klar und sicher. Nee, aber genau. Ja, aber ich versteh das Also ich glaub, die diskutieren da im Hintergrund auch, ob das die richtige Entscheidung ist und so. Ich also Ja, ich hab auch schon zu Tobi, also vielleicht noch mal ganz kurz, Dev Bus sollten wir vielleicht auch noch mal erwähnen. Das ist ja auch son bisschen netterweise, also über Tobi, der uns sehr eingeladen hat als programmierbar. Philipp, das müssen wir vielleicht auch noch mal ganz kurz ausholen. Wenn Du schon gerade mal hier im Podcast bist, auch wenn wir mal 'n bisschen abschweifen, aber Du hast ja Du warst ja aktiv mit und hast Entwicklerheld. Ich bin immer unsicher, ob's das noch gibt, ob ihr das noch Ihr macht's nicht aktiver. Ja, doch, das gibt's auch noch. Ja. Genau, also Entwicklerheld eine Plattform. Pitch Du mal schnell? Ja, pass auf. Also Entwickler ist eine Plattform, da kann man als Firma Coding Challenges auch draufpacken und kann quasi seinen Entwickleralltag son bisschen darstellen. Also man, ihr benutzt jetzt ganz viel, wie heißt's, Flatter, dann könntet ihr sone Flatterchallenge machen. Wie sieht denn son und son kleinen Schnipsel, sone kleine Codingaufgabe, zu zeigen, was mache ich denn eigentlich dann bei Lotum? Weil das Lotum zum Beispiel dasteht und keiner weiß, was ihr für eine Technologie benutzt, außer ich vielleicht. Genau und dann halt irgendwie so, das war unsere Intention so von Entwicklern, einfach einen Einblick zu geben ins technische Setup. Das ist natürlich heutzutage heutzutage mit Coding Challenges ist alles schwierig, aber Aber das war die Intention Ach, kurze Frage. Das heißt also bisschen wie also also, weil Du gesagt hast, Coding Challenge, also wie Lead Code, nur halt explizit für das Unternehmen, so was 'n Genau, wir wollten eher so Company Branding haben. Also wir haben uns immer, weißt Du, wir haben uns da im Studium gefragt, was ich kann jetzt überall anfangen, aber was machen die denn eigentlich da? Was was programmier ich da? Wie sieht das aus? Und sonst hab ich mich auch im Studium auch immer gefragt, was mach ich denn da als Entwickler? Was wie sieht denn sone typische Codingaufgabe aus? Ja. Und das war so die Idee am Anfang, die ist sogar gestartet mit, was heutzutage vielleicht sogar geht, Outsourcing. Also wir haben gesagt, alle Firmen entwickeln testgetrieben, ja. Wir lagern einfach die Tests auf die Plattform und das Entwickeln können ja dann auch Studenten oder alle machen und dann sind wir fertig. Das hat gar nicht funktioniert. Dann kam der Investor, hat gesagt, hier, also Leute, Outsourcing, das sehe ich nicht, aber ich sehe irgendwie HR, also Einstellungen sehe ich, ne. Ah cool. Recruiting Recruiting Plattform war's dann. Genau, Entwicklerheld zusammen mit mit Ilja Bauer. Bauer ist der Nachname, glaube ich, ja. Richtig. Genau und ihr beiden seid aber jetzt seit ein, 2, 3, wie viel Jahren seid ihr 2? Seit 24, Anfang 24 bei der Ach so, ich sag 24 Jahre. Also ich kann's vielleicht nicht nass. Ich ich kann ja ganz kurz die Geschichte dazu erzählen. Ja. Es sind nicht nur Illla Bauer, sondern erzähl mal so bitte die Geschichte, meine Geschichte. Wir haben im Studium uns kennengelernt, haben zusammen irgendwie alle Informatik oder Medieninformatik studiert und dann haben wir in unserer Freizeit, es ging los in der Snooker Halle, haben wir so Dienstleistungen gemacht, da haben wir Seminar Abplanungssoftware für den Paritätischen Landesverband gebaut. Das haben alles Felix und ihr ja gemacht. Ich bin einfach nur dazugestoßen und hab immer gedacht, Mensch, die die die machen wir mal so viel und ich will das unbedingt auch können und die haben mich immer total gepusht und ich wollte unbedingt genauso gut werden wie die. Hab mich dann mit immer in diesen Stucker Club gesetzt, das hatten wir hinten irgendwo, der hat zwar son riesengroßer Stucker Tisch und dann waren noch so quasi Bürotische und dann saßen wir zusammen, haben gecodeet und haben diese Dienstleistungsprojekte gemacht. Und dann haben wir irgendwann gedacht, ah, dann ist irgendwie ein Projekt weggefallen. Das ist ja, das muss ja anderen Unternehmen genauso gehen. Dann haben wir halt über diese Outsourcing Plattform gedacht nachgedacht, weil man immer so Peaks und so was hat. Dann haben wir in unserem Abschlussarbeiten dazu geschrieben und dann haben wir das ausgegründet, haben 'n Investment eingesammelt, haben's umbenannt auf Entwickler hält und dann Wir waren 5 Gründer, also das war eher Bauer, ich, Felix, Daniel und Jakob. Mhm. Und genau, die Geschichte erzählt ja auch der immer in seinem Pitch. Ich bin bei der ProgrammierCon hat der auch ja kurz angeteast. Und was da vielleicht noch als Überleitung, wenn wir wieder zurückwollen zur zur Konferenz, der DeCompighter hat er den Vortrag auch gehalten und dann geht man danach in den Product Track. Und im Product Track hat der Mirko Seifert, der ist auch der CEO von Dev Boost, in den Vortrag gehalten, die bauen auch grad 'n Produkt und er hat gesagt, er hat 'n Vortrag gehalten, der war total cool, total emotional, hat gesagt, 10 Gründe, warum man kein Unternehmen gründen sollte. Und es waren wirklich alle 10, also zum Beispiel, man verliert seine Freunde, ist bei mir passiert, man verliert man verliert Lebenszeit, 5 Jahre ist immer so irgendwie die Marke. Und das hat alles so, das war total emotionaler Ritt für mich, diese die Compyte, weil Du hast erst diesen Vortrag gehabt. Ihr habt vielleicht dieses große Bild im Kopf, wo dieses gebrochene Entwicklerheldschild daliegt und dann kommt im nächsten Talk im nächsten Raum halt wieder son Metavortrag über, warum man das auch nicht machen sollte. Und es hat mich aber wiederholt, ich werd eigentlich drüber nachdenken, oh, ich würd gern wieder was gründen. Mhm. Ja. Das sogenannte gute Überleitung dazu. Sehr gut. Und stellen wir, wenn man noch auf Death Boost jetzt noch zu Ende, früher wieder switchen möchte, also Death Boost ist ja 1 der großen Sponsorens irgendwie quasi unsere Hausmesse Hausmesse auch. Soll jetzt auch keine Werbung sein, ne? Ich bin da überhaupt nicht in der Planung involviert. Ich, Deathfuß hab ich damals auch schon immer gesehen, als wir bei der Decompite 20 18 da waren. Da waren wir ja noch gar nicht, haben dort nicht gearbeitet, aber die waren immer präsent. Und Devbooooth unterstützt Produktteams dabei, quasi die größten Probleme ausm Weg zu räumen, ja. Ich weiß, Dennis, Du bist dann zum Beispiel auch mal in dem Round Table damit eingeladen und so, aber dann treffen sich die Leute und man kennt ja diese typischen Probleme. Es drückt irgendwo immer in der Software Firma, drückt's irgendwo und meine Intention war dann dieser Wechsel, als als Entwickler halt zu Ende war, für mich ist es komplett abgeschlossen, hab ich gesagt, okay, ich will das irgendwie schaffen. Ich hab ganz viele Probleme selber auch gemacht, Fehler gemacht. Immer, waren alle Techverliebt, haben Microservices gebaut bis zum Getten, haben diese Plattform hochskalierbar, wie viele Diskussionen, sinnlose Diskussionen wir da geführt haben, wie wie die nie eingetreten sind, weil wir hatten irgendwie 38000 Entwickler. Wahrscheinlich hätte man einfach einen Service haben können und das hätte auch funktioniert. Aber wir haben da irgendwie Microservices zelebriert, haben so viel Zeit da verloren und haben dann halt überhaupt nicht überlegt, was der Impact ist und haben genau, das war der Fehler bei Entwicklerheld und das probier ich bei Devboost bei Firmen mit reinzubringen. Also genau, ich geh in diese Firmen rein und sag, Leute, diskutiert nicht immer über den Tech, macht geht denkt über den Impact nach, denkt, warum ihr das macht, welches Problem ihr damit lösen wollt. Und dann sind wir wieder bei der Diskussion, Dennis mal, ist das da Das ist doch auch vollkommen egal, welches Framework wie, Hauptsache, Du löst erst mal das Problem und dann können wir uns darum immer noch kümmern, wie dass wir's skalieren können, ja. Das machen wir bei Devboost. Sehr gut. Kurze Pitch. Sehr gut. Darf ich sehr viel geredet? Es tut mir leid. Nee, alles bestens, genau. Und hab ich eben schon Danke an Tobi gesagt? Ich nicht. Was ist denn sehr stillder. Vielen Dank, dass wir ja auch eingeladen wurden. Ach ja genau, da kamen wir her. Und mit Entwicklerheld haben wir damals, glaube ich Also ihr mochtet auch damals schon die programmierbar und dann haben wir immer miteinander gesprochen und hab damals überlegt, ob man irgendwas zusammen machen könnte. Und so ist irgendwo die gewesen Connection zwischen Entwicklerheld, programmierbar, Devboost Die Compilte. Jetzt halt auch die Compilte. Ja, wo das son Emotionale Geschichte auch gibt. Noch mal, wenn wir wenn wir emotional noch erzählen wollen, Dave, ich weiß nicht, ob Du die Geschichte kennst, aber war so die letzten Also wir hatten dann, glaub ich, mit Jan und mit dir, Dennis gequatscht und überlegt so, was wir machen können, aber da war schon totaler Mayday bei uns so. Wir hatten, das waren schon irgendwie der Überlegen, wie wo bewerben wir uns, was machen wir und waren irgendwie alle fertig. Die einen wollten weitermachen, die anderen nicht. Und dann war ich irgendwie so verzweifelt. Dann hab ich euer Lotum Video gesehen, jetzt mal bisschen Werbung für Lotum. Das war so cool. Also ich fand das Video so cool. Das hat sich so angefühlt wie Freunde haben irgendwie was Großes aufgebaut. Ich bin da total beeindruckt, was ihr da gemacht habt. Und hab dann gedacht, boah geil, also wenn ich irgendwie noch mal irgendwie jetzt dann nichts Eigenes mache, dann würde ich gerne in soner Truppe arbeiten. Und dann hab ich dem Dennis eine ganz emotionale Nachricht bei LinkedIn geschrieben, einfach weil ich ich war irgendwie in dieser Mut. Und Dennis hat mir dann geantwortet, ja, also Du kannst gerne mal vorbeikommen und dann können wir gucken, ob Du ob Du ob's passt oder nicht. Und das fand ich total Also das hat mir total mich in dieser schweren Phase richtig cool abgeholt und Dennis, das war total lieb von dir. Genau. Ja, und wärst Du nicht so in Dresden gebunden, hättest Du einfach wieder was werden können. Richtig. Was was für eine Historie. Das war irgendwie aber auch grade insgesamt sone Aneinanderreihung von sehr guten Ereignissen. Ja. Das ist irgendwie schön. Also für mich, das macht alles zusammen. Zeit. Also die die Decomfia hat mich begleitet, die Programmierbar hat mich begleitet und und jetzt kommen deine 2 Bessies zusammen. Oh mein Gott, Und jetzt bin ich einfach hier und jetzt und Du bist hier. Ich hör ich hör euch immer den ganzen Tag ab irgendwie, das das ist aber total, muss für euch total strange sein, weil ich hab immer das Gefühl, ich red mit Leuten, die kenn ich alle. Ja. Und Das war wirklich jeder, das hab ich Stimmt. Das habe ich zu dir, glaub ich, gesagt, David. Das war so verrückt, weil als wir auf der Konferenz kurz gesprochen haben, hast Du häufiger Philipp so gesagt, na ja, Dennis, Du würdest ja denken, dass. Und das ist dann so abgefahren, ne, dass Du eigentlich schon so mich Der Juno denn. Nennt durch durch durch den Podcast, dass Du eigentlich auch für mich antworten kannst in den Situationen. Das war war auch spannend zu erwarten, aber mega cool, ja. Ja. Und Du hast mich ja mit dem Geräusch der Woche begrüßt von daher. Ja, das ist schon Ja, da ist ja das ist schon nicht schlecht. Ja. Ah, ist schön. Ich hoffe, die Horror*innen können dem genauso viel abgewinnen wie wir grade in dieser Runde, aber ich Es ist eine schöne Woche. Also also sind ja alles Fans. Also ich spreche im Namen der Fans, der macht das richtig cool. Ich find das Ich liebe das, dass ihr da so was macht. Ich find das total cool. Ja, geil. Aber ich muss sagen, dadurch Also vielleicht auch diesen Klassentreffenaspekt, ich fand das sehr schön, wie Du's gesagt hast. Und aber ich muss sagen, also obwohl ich nie zu dieser Klasse gehört habe, Du warst ja letztes Jahr auf der Decompeldiness. Ja. Ich dieses Jahr zum ersten Mal und ich hab mich aber auch so bisschen gefühlt, als wär's meine Klasse so. Ich glaub, wir hatten natürlich den Vorteil irgendwie so, ja okay, die Jungs von der Bühne so programmierbar wurde irgendwie so angekündigt so, aber dadurch kamen Leute von uns zu und haben mit uns geredet so irgendwie und dann Das stimmt. Einfach so, also ich würd sagen, wir sind 2 Personen, die gerne in Kontakt treten mit anderen und nicht so problematisch. Und das war dann halt irgendwie sehr entspannt, dass Leute auf uns einfach zugekommen sind. Ja. Und deshalb irgendwie so, ach wie cool, wie nett und von jedem sehr herzlich willkommen geheißen. Das ist krass, das stimmt. Das fand's vor der Atmosphäre auch superschön und ich würde auch sagen irgendwie gefühlt kannten wir am Ende so die Hälfte der 4 Leute, die da waren. Das finde ich ein bisschen übertrieben. Ja, aber ein Drittel ist es ein Drittel. Ja, es ist schon, dass man schon einige Kontaktpunkte hatte, was auch dazu geführt hat. Philipp haben wir ja kurz danach geschrieben, dass wir beispielsweise nicht so viel Zeit hatten, irgendwie mit dann zu reden, weil's weil's verschiedenste Konstellationen gab. Aber nee, es war super Also so aus Organisatorensicht oder beziehungsweise als teilnehmenden Sicht sozusagen, war's superangenehm. Die Orga war perfekt. Die E-Mails Ja. Waren von der Kommunikation super, super on point. Cool. Es hat alles funktioniert vor Ort. Alle, egal aus dem Team, waren super-, superherzlich und ja. Bis auf Oh, jetzt kommt's. Achtung. Oh, kommt jetzt Hate? Ja. Oh, jetzt kommt Hate und zwar Boah, ist leid. Eigentlich also gleiches Problem wie der Broker VimediaCon auch. Du hast darunter am meisten gelitten eigentlich, mein mein Lieber. Ich hab am meisten gelitten. Mhm. Essen, Essen, jetzt kommt Essen. Oh, ich bin Oh, da habt ihr auch eine Geschichte zu. Oh nein, aber stimmt, stimmt, stimmt. Ja, das war sehr anlucky, weil wir hatten ja den Mittagslot, so mussten halt aber natürlich frühzeitig da sein. Aber die Mittagsstange war so lange, hab ich gesagt, ja okay, nee, dann gehen wir jetzt direkt auf die Bühne, bereiten alles vor, haben kein Mittagessen bekommen, das ist ein bisschen so und Das ist scheiße. Genau und dann gab's ja auch noch Abendessen und ich weiß gar nicht, warum wir das verpasst haben. Die wurden angequatscht. Ah, wir wurden angequatscht. Ach, stimmt, ja und dann haben wir uns verquatscht. Ja, doch, aber das passt wieder zu uns. Wir haben uns verquatscht und dann so aus. Da war sogar das Abendessendeck. Ja. Ja. Und das war krass so. Ja. Und Ja, hab ich weiß nicht. Da gibt's auch eine Geschichte dazu. Also bei De Compite, das ist auch Also ich fand das Essen erst mal übelst cool, also ist richtig gut. Was gab's denn? Schmeckt, wenn man das gekriegt hat, wenn man was gekriegt hat, ja? Hähnchen, was auch immer. Es gab auch irgendwie einen Veganer, 'n Kumpel von mir, der hab ich gefragt, aber er was gefunden hat, der hat auch was gefunden. Und ich hatte das Glück, ich hab mich auch verquatscht. Und ich hab aber gesehen, der der Felix hatte irgendwie so was zu Essen in der Hand bei uns am Stand. Und ich sag, hä, weißte Den glaub. Es ist doch erst. Essen gibt's doch erst wieder so später. Und die hat gesagt, nee, nee, die haben das schon geöffnet und die hatten das schon leicht geöffnet, schon eine halbe Stunde vorher. Und ich hatte quasi freie Fahrt. Das hat sich richtig schlecht angefühlt, aber das war, also es war schon eröffnet, eine halbe Stunde, glaub ich, bevor es losging. Ja. Und dann standen saßen schon die ersten Leute und haben gegessen, deswegen war's für mich total super, weil ich kannte das von den allen Jahren davor. Es war ist immer ein Problem, aber auf jeder Messe, das war bei euch, glaub ich, ähnlich, war's auch, wenn man zu spät gekommen ist, dann war das total anstrengend, weil immer diese Schlange sich bildet. Und ich glaube, sie haben's probiert, besser zu machen, weil letztes Jahr war's, glaub ich, so, dass da jemand dastand und das Essen drauf geschippt hat. Mhm. Und diesmal war's ja auch so, dass man selber nehmen kann. Und ich hab mich selber gefragt, warum die Schlange schon wieder so ewig lang ist, weil da die die das war ja auch relativ lang aufgebaut. So und das war glaub ich das gleiche Essen, das waren vielleicht Leuten nicht klar, das gleiche Essen gab's links und rechts und man hätte von mehreren Seiten kommen können. Ich weiß nicht, ob das vielleicht 'n Problem war. Ja, die Menschen sind, da da sind auch die Menschen ein Problem. Die müssten auch direkt so irgendwie benotet werden, wie sie sich im Buffet Du bist auch übrigens schlechter Buffet, Dave. Wirklich? Ja. Wieso? Weil Du so Nein, weil Du so viel laberst, also hier zumindest. Ah, stimmt. Weiß ich mir, so was sagen. Ah, ja, ja, ja. Ich meine, dann drehst Du dich noch mal und so, nein, nimm dir jetzt das Essen. Du musst jetzt grad deine Geschichte nicht fertig erzählen. Nimm das Essen und geh weiter. Und das ist einfach, man müsste sone Buffetetikette mal einfach einbrechen. Ja. Da wird die Leute irgendwie wissen, wie man sich ein Buffet benimmt und zwar einfach maximal effizient sich das Zeug zu nehmen und dann abzudampfen und nicht noch grad eine Geschichte zu erzählen. Ja, okay, aber ich sag mal, ich glaub, weil ich hier so sind so 20, 30 Leute so und dann hab ich mir so, ja, da kann man mal kurz warten so. Nein. Bei bei jetzt irgendwie so 150, da hätte ich, glaub ich, 'n anderen Maßstab, aber okay, ich versteh das. Aber ihr als Stargäste, ihr hättet doch wahrscheinlich auch Fast Lane oder sowas bekommen können, oder? Also habt ihr Oh, das ist so schön, so herzlich so genannt zu werden. Außer ja, wir haben, das würden wir natürlich nicht, da würden wir natürlich nicht nachfragen. Nee, genau. Er würde aber wenn ihr 13 Uhr, ich wenn ihr 13 Uhr, weißt Du, dann habt ihr in Stunden, ihr 13 Uhr ging's los, ne? 13, 13 Uhr. Ja, genau. Ja, Ich hätte bestimmt jemand was euch vor gelassen oder so, also das wär jetzt kein Problem. Gräfer Reserven, ist kein Problem. Das stimmt. Ja. Und hier wär noch was Ihr Schade, dass keiner von keiner von der Dekompheide gekommen ist und euch da gesagt hat, hey kommt. Nein, nein, alles alles easy. Macht das. Alles easy. Du hast sogar noch 'n Müslée wohl bekommen. Genau. Von 1 sehr netten Person. Ja. Das war lieb. Ja. Judi, so. Was war dein Talk Highlight oder war das der Talk mit den der Emotionale? Ja, Du hattest das auch für eine Geschichte. Du hattest mich ja angeschrieben und gesagt, hey, wir hatten gar nicht so viel Zeit. Also ihr beide hattet nicht so viel Zeit, die Talks zu so sehen. Dadurch, dass es Klassentreffen war, war ich auch nicht bei so vielen Talks und mir mitbekommen hab, dass mein Fokus irgendwie Community, Klassentreffen mit allen Quatschen. Ich hab auch nicht so viele gesehen und wenn ich zu Vorträgen gegangen bin, dann meistens, die will ich jetzt nicht hochjubeln, aber sind meistens von meinen Kollegen gewesen. Also es gab den Vortrag, Strangler fick Pattern. Das ich find's immer spannend, wenn Talks so über echte Projekte, wo was erzählt wird. Und da ging's halt diese bei Stuffbase, das ist ja auch 'n großer Player in in in Sachsen oder auch sogar an der Welt, Unicorn, ging darum, wie wir wir dort mit den Strangerific Pattern, wie sie das Frontend neu bauen und so. Das war 'n cooler cooler Talk, weil das halt zusammen mit mit quasi mit Dev Boost, ich will jetzt nicht jede Werbung mit Dev Boost, aber ich fand's cool, dass man aus dem Projekt heraus Sachen erzählt hat, was man gemeinsam geschafft hat und gemacht hat und dieses Knowledge gesharht hat. Und an sich halt, ich fand die Keynote wieder überragend. Ich fand das cool, dass es irgendwie gleich so richtig diesen Drive gegeben für die ganze Konferenz. Alle haben dann gesagt, boah krass, so flieht. Das hab ich auch noch nicht selber gemacht, ne. Ich hab wir haben ja kurz dadrüber gequatscht, der der Jolo Dennis. Ich kam so rein, ich kenn diese Welt als Devboost Du, ich komm diese kenn diese Welt von den großen Firmen. Ich will jetzt nicht zu viele Insights geben, aber ich bin jetzt in Dresden halt bei so Firmen, da sind so 40, fuffzig Entwickler zusammen und die die kriegen jetzt AI in die Hand und können das irgendwie, also und das geht trotzdem nicht krass voran so. Also die denken sich immer, der der Chef denkt sich, hey, ich hab dir doch jetzt AI gegeben, warum geht's dir nicht los? Und da dann hab ich genau mit diesen mit diesen Problemen im Kopf bin ich dann zum Jolo Dennis gekommen und zum, das war Philipp Kemminsonner, der mir da stand. Ja, ja. Weil ich ich hab nämlich vorher gesagt, ich kenn den über Entwicklerheld. Oh, ich hab den noch nie in Person gesehen und das war total unangenehm, weil ich hab gesagt, Du hast ihm gesagt, hey, Philipp, da hab ich den einfach sein Namensschild ja genommen, hab gesagt, ob er richtig geschrieben wird, weil Philipp schreibt man nur mit einem l Doppel p. Und das war mir total unggierig. Ich hab gesagt, oh Gott, das ist ja der Philipp Chemeter. Das ist ja hier auf die C24 Bank, oh Gott. Ich hab den einfach so angequatscht. Und ihr beide habt dann so im Yolomodus gesagt, ja, nee, das wird alles automatisiert und also nicht. Hab einmal die KUT Projekte gedacht, hab gedacht, ja, das wär schön, aber in eurer Welt da oben, da sind alle schon halbt, aber da das in die in die breite Masse der Entwickler zu bringen, ist total schwierig. Und ich glaub, das ist son Teil, was die Messe auch geschafft hat bei vielen Leuten, so mit denen ich geredet hab. Die haben gesagt, ja, ey, doch, ich glaub da dran und so, dass die das einschwören, dass die langsam merken, man braucht das und man man man nicht nur drüber nachdenken, was dass man schneller jetzt bauen kann, sondern warum man das baut. Und das fand ich cool an den Vorträgen und das kam überall immer dieses Impact, Why und das kam dadurch, dass halt Produkt und Tech zusammengeführt wird. Und das find ich fand ich total, das ist, da will ich jetzt gar keinen einzelnen Vortrag herausheben, aber ich fand das cool, das kam immer wieder. Und wenn Du mit den Leuten gequatscht hast, haben die dann die ganze Zeit genauso zum Beispiel über diese Keynote geredet, dass man, ja, mit dieser Fleet, vielleicht brauch ich doch noch mal. Da hab dann bin dann in Gespräche abgetaucht, haben die haben Leute 'n großen Rebild von ihrer Software gemacht, die standen da und haben gesagt, nee, warte mal, also den Rebild, das macht überhaupt keinen Sinn. Wir müssen da noch, das müssen wir noch viel weitertreiben, damit die AI das einfach alles machen kann. Mhm. Und dass das die Leute so zu dem Denken angestoßen hat, das fand ich total cool. Ja. Nee, ist richtig und das auch, ja, find ich auch wichtig. Und auch krass zu sehen, das war auch, Du meintest ja eben, ich war netterweise da am Abend vorher auf so 'nem Jack Lead Round Table eingeladen und auch da krass zu sehen, wie unterschiedlich weit irgendwie so die Unternehmen sind. Und das 'n bisschen zu konsolidieren und da alle auf den gleichen Stand zu überbringen. Es ist da hilft hilft solche Austausch auf jeden Fall und auch auch 'n bisschen dann immer, ne, so die Realität dann auch wieder zu sehen. Ich mein, weil LinkedIn ist bei mir zumindest so komplett auf 100 x pro Fach Produktivität und nicht mal alles selbst und bin aber Das ist auch eine sehr eingeschränkte, glaube ich, Sicht auf so dann die die gesamte Wirtschaft oder das, was wir da machen. Ja. Aber ich find's gut, dass Du die Meinung vertrittst, Dennis. Also ich seh das genauso, dass Also Du bist ja dann quasi immer dieser der der krasse Pole, der sagt, alles automatisieren. Jolo ist mir all egal, los geht's. Das find ich total cool. Ich bin auch son Typ und dann gibt's aber immer noch die anderen Parteien, die sagen, ah, Vorsicht, machen wir langsam. Und ich glaub irgendwo in der Mitte, wenn wir uns da finden, da ist die Wahrheit. Ja, absolut. Aber es war cool, weil ich bin dann in dieses Gespräch gekommen mit euch und Dave Ja. War natürlich auch mit dabei, ne. Aber ich hab dann irgendwie den Jolo Dennis grad im Kopf gehabt und den den Philipp Caneter, der ist scheinbar bei C24 auch. Alles komplett AI, die sind da vollkommen vorne mit dran. Ja. Haben alles überholt da in ihrer in der in der Check24 Bubble, alle Techteams. Und dann sind stehen die beiden da. Also das sind halt die von den Leuten lernen bei der D-Kompilete und das ist doch schon dann was wert. Jolo, Dennis, das mag ich irgendwie. Also weil sie so schon fünfmal gesagt wurde, aber ich also Entschuldigung, das ist eigentlich ganz gut. Passt ganz gut. Security Dave, die Yolo Dennis. Das finde ich irgendwie, also da wird's zwar eigentlich. Ja, dafür machst Du ein bisschen wenig Security so in deinem Ja, das stimmt. Also oder beziehungsweise hält die Fahne zu wenig Code dafür. Ja, stimmt. Dafür sind wir nicht wichtig genug. Ja. Kann auch sagen. Findest Du nicht bei euch irgendwie Security First? Hast Du da hast Du irgendwie auch son bisschen Ljolo an dir dann auch. Ja, ich hab genau, ja doch, ja, ich hab wahrscheinlich mehr Yolo an mir als Security. Okay, ja. Ja. Cool. Schön, schön. Okay. Also euch hat das gefallen bei De Compite. Uns hat das gefallen? Ja, absolut. Das war mir nämlich wichtig herauszufinden, weil wir haben ja nicht noch mal gequatscht. Ja. Genau, also aus aus aus quasi Speaker Sicht, was wir ja son bisschen waren, sehr gute Betreuung und rundum wohl gefühlt so. Das war richtig krass. Also nichts Gedanken gemacht so, es wurd abgeklärt hier. Zudem sprichst Du, dann der der Tontechniker weiß Bescheid, zack wurden verkabelt und es war supersmoth, alles richtig butterweich, ist also megageil. Ja. Deswegen da wärmste Empfehlung. Du, Philipp, sagst auch aus Besuchersicht megageil. Da da wir haben gar nicht drüber gequatscht, das ist mir grad eingefallen, über Silent, wie heißt das Silent? Ich wollt grad sagen, genau. Also vielleicht noch mal ganz kurz das Konzept, das ist ja einen Tag nur in Anführungsstrichen die Konferenz. Genau, es gibt 4 Tracks, wobei 1 in 'nem separate Raum war und 3 sonst in 1 großen Halle Osradom. Ist das eigentlich 'n Zelt by the way? Ja. Ja, ne? Aber 'n dauerhaftes Zelt. Dauerhaftes Zelt, genau. Ja, genau, weil es ist wirklich relativ dicht so irgendwie, aber trotzdem habe ich den Heli über mir gehört. Stimmt. Na, der kam irgendwann mal während der Podcastaufnahme. Ja, wegen der Aufnahme. Ja, genau und dann da hat's halt diesen Silent Disco Modus, das heißt, man hat Kopfhörer und kann dann auf den 3 Bühnen haben. Das hatten wir jetzt beim Podcast nicht. Ich stell's mir als Speaker super schwierig vor irgendwie. Ja, ich das wollte ich auch zur Diskussion stellen, Weil man so das würde ich auch interessieren. Weil man so halt in einen leeren Raum spricht und diese Reaktion nicht hört und man also also ja, man sich selbst nicht hört so und hören die einen jetzt. Also das glaube ich, ist eine große Herausforderung irgendwie für Speaker*innen, da das ausblenden zu können? Es ist quasi wie eine Podcastfolge, die man aufnimmt, so. Weil die sind ja von der Song, ja. Ja, genau. Die das doof ihren Kopfhörern hören, so. Stimmt. Du hast gar kein direktes Feedback, ja. Ja. Als als als Zuhörer ist es aber total cool. Also ich weiß, ich denk auch immer an den Speaker, weil ich denk mir, ja, wenn Du zwischen dem Speed, also zwischen dem den Vortrag irgendwie wechselst, Du kannst dir die ganze Zeit wechseln, Du hast son Knopf an dem Dings und Du kannst dir den die Audiospur wechseln. Also Du könntest theoretisch dir dir einen Talk angucken, aber quasi einen anderen dir anhören. Das ist total für mich so als dieser, der sich irgendwie schwer konzentrieren kann, total cool gewesen, weil man kannte dann halt mal hin und herswert schon gemerkt hat, okay, man hat sich jetzt doch den falschen Talk ausgesucht, der ist nicht spannend. Ist die Einstieg die Hürde? Also wenn ich jetzt bei euch zum Beispiel oben hochgegangen wär bei der Programmierkorn, dann hätte ich mich nicht mehr getraut, da rauszugehen, aber da war's dann so, ich bin immer in der Mitte so gelaufen von dem Zelt und hab dann immer so rumgeschalten. Auch so immer gesagt, okay, das war jetzt, den Vortrag fand ich jetzt nicht so, hat mich jetzt grad nicht abgeholt. Dann kannst Du einfach auch noch mal wechseln. Und das ist total cool, weil die Leute, da gibt's dann solche Geschichten, Du kannst den Kopfhörer auflassen, kannst den Talk weiterhören, aber auf Toilette gehen. Also Du könntest ausgehen, auf Toilette, kannst weiterhören. Oder Du gehst halt noch Getränk dir holen, das ist auch total angenehm. Manchmal sitzt man ja irgendwo, denkt, ah, ich hab Durst. Dann lässt Du einfach den Kopfhörer auf, gehst raus, also gehst zu dem Getränkesachen zum Automaten, das ist überall verfügbar gewesen, auch total cool und dann gehst Du wieder zum Talk, aber ich denk mir halt immer für den Speaker, also es ist halt so manchmal, ich bin dann denk dir immer so, ah, wenn der Jetzt da sieht der jetzt da hin, dass der erinnert wieder weggeht und so. Ja. Das ist doch auch nicht höflich. Aber ich muss sagen, also es ist wahrscheinlich ja aus 'ner Notwendigkeit heraus, ne, Du hast halt nur dieses eine Zelt so und möchtest halt verschiedene Bühnen haben, also damit dich die Akustik ja nicht in die Quere kommt, muss es machen. Ja. Und ich muss sagen, ich finde es auch sehr angenehm, weil es gibt ja auch andere Konferenzen, wo Du es einfach in der Halle hast und dann hast Du es ja über diese Lautsprecher einfach der gesamten Halle und teilweise ja so viel Tohuhuwhuhu nebenher, ne, weil da irgendwelche Leute sind, die dann da irgendwas ausstellen oder mit anderen Leuten reden, dann ist es schon wirklich wahnsinnig laut. Und dann noch irgendwie den Talk zu verfolgen, ist manchmal sehr schwierig. Und das fand ich halt super. Du hast dich Kopfhörer aufgesetzt, hast den Vortrag richtig verfolgen können und hält sich auch jeder, dass er wieder ausklingen können oder halt wechseln können und so was alles und Und Du ich fand das also auch eigentlich sehr, sehr cool, also weil ich dann das Gefühl hatte, ich konnte den Talks dadurch auf jeden Fall gut folgen, die zweite ich gehört hab. Aber Du hast nicht diesen Strudel, also Du da da vielleicht vielleicht liegt das nicht nur an den Seitendiskor, aber Du hast halt dieses große Zelt, wo die ganzen Vorträge sind drin sind. Du hast diesen einen Weg, der reinführt, der eine, der rausführt. Und wenn Du sonst auf anderen Konferenzen bist, also ich war jetzt da 'n Beispiel auf den Container Days oder so was, da da dann hast Du immer son Strudel, weil die Leute ja dann immer den Raum wechseln. Dann guckt die alle, oh Gott, welcher Raum, welcher Raum, welcher Raum, es ging mir auch immer so. Dann sitzt Du irgendwie im falschen Raum und ist dauert mal zurück. Und das hast Du dann irgendwie gar nicht, weil Du bist in diesem Zelt. Du kannst einmal dich rumdrehen, quasi alle alle Sachen sehen und dann das find ich als Zuhörer total cool. Philipp hat das gerade perfekt gemacht, diese Atmosphäre in den Podcast zu bringen, indem er sich wirklich umgedreht hat und die Stimme so kurz 'n bisschen weggegangen ist. Ja, ja, ja. Das war nicht schlecht. Ja, das ist gut. Cool. Ja, nee, ey, ich hatte auch mit, also weil das ist ja auch eine Überlegung bei uns gewesen mit der Programmiercon. Er hat auch mit Tobi kurz drüber gesprochen. Weil wenn man's noch größer machen wollen würde oder vor allen Dingen auch so internationaler und Du hast die Leute nach Dresden holen, ich glaube, dann sind 2 Tage ein ein Keyelement. Weil man halt für einen Tag immer sone Reise ist halt irgendwie son bisschen anders zu rechtfertigen, als wenn man dann wirklich 2 Tage Inhalt hat und Wunderbar. Deswegen, ich glaube, das wäre, wenn man wirklich noch das größer machen möchte, dass Leute kommen, wäre, glaube ich, das so der Key, das noch zu öffnen. Dann darf's auch auf Englisch bleiben. Dann darf's auch Also, ich meine, auch Deutschland ist ja dann erst mal noch 'n bisschen, ne? Ja, ja. Vielleicht noch mehr aus Deutschland, aber das darf generell auch auf Englisch bleiben, wenn das, ja, wenn das so gewünscht ist. Eine eine sehr diplomatische Antwort. Ja, ja. Gut. So, fällt Würdet ihr es denn Würdet ihr es denn den unserer Community empfehlen, da hinzukommen? Also das fällt mir halt immer Also ich kann ich Deswegen ich hab meine Jolopriillar an, also meine Jolo, aber meine Entschuldigung. Meine, ja, ihr habt ja jetzt meine Historie gehört. Da Ja. Die ComPides sind für mich Emotionen. Also ich bin in Dresden, ist also für mich ist das sowieso quasi Hausveranstaltung. Ja. Aber lohnt sich's auch für für also quasi den Weg auf sich zu nehmen, so wie ihr's jetzt gemacht habt für Zuhörer halt, ne? Das ist die Ich würde sagen, ja. Also ich glaube, es war jetzt nicht nur unser Eindruck, dass wir da halt diese Rolle gespielt haben, sondern also was den Austausch und die Leute und die grundsätzliche Stimmung und sowas angeht. Das ist ja schon irgendwie ein großer Teil von den Konferenzen und den haben wir ja auch mitbekommen, wenn wir jetzt vielleicht ein, 2 Talks nicht gesehen haben. Und von daher, also ich glaube, gute Speaker*innen, die dort sind. True. Ich glaube, eine Kritik, die auch wir immer wieder bekommen müssen, ist son bisschen natürlich das Wie divers ist son bisschen die das Vecatum, das da war, aber ich glaube, das ist ja eine Challenge, die wir da alle immer wieder spüren. Mhm. Und von daher, ich fand's cool. Und Community Aspekt. Ja. Also, weil das, also das will ich auch mal vorher hervorheben, was ich natürlich bei unserer Konferenz sehr cool fand, aber auch jetzt auch der D-Compide im Vergleich zu sehr großen Konferenzen, so wie also diese dieses persönliche einfachding. So kommst viel einfacher mit Leuten in Austausch. Ich hab die Speaker habe ich da so häufig dann auch noch gesehen und so, dass man direkt irgendwie da anknüpfen konnte und das ist auf 'ner großen Konferenz, wo mehrere 1000 Personen sind, dann oftmals schwieriger und das finde ich eigentlich also immer sehr charmant, wenn es also diese richtige Größe hat einfach und man da wirklich sehr einfach in Austausch kommen kann. Also fand also deswegen von dem Aspekt auch sehr cool. Abendveranstaltung war ja auch nicht schlecht, muss ich sagen. Also fand ich auch cool. Es war bei euch noch krasser, fand ich. Ihr habt das richtig durchgeplant gehabt. Ich hab euch die ganze Zeit beobachtet. Ihr habt schön Bierpong gespielt. Ich hab, oh, ich muss sagen, ich hab richtig richtig hart abgezogen. Du wolltest dich jetzt grad selbst beobachten? Ja, wirklich, nein, weil ich hab, kommt immer gut an. Machen wir das machen wir aber. Weil ich glaube, ich hab ich hab glaube, ich hab ich hab also quasi 80 Prozent der Dinger getroffen, das war crazy. Also ich hab wirklich Das ist jetzt, das ist aber, manchmal, das ist ja ein ganz kurzer harter Hit gegen Philipp. Also nicht gegen Nicht den Philipp. Es gab auch viele Philips auf der Welt. Das war harte, also auch eine Kritik an der Konferenz. Also irgendwie 80 Prozent hießen Philipp und die restlichen 20 Prozent hießen Martin oder so. Das war wirklich, das war so krass. Ich hab jedem mit Philipp angesprochen und ich lag eigentlich fast immer richtig. Das war krass. Ich würd mich am Anfang irgendwie 'n Username ausdenken, oder? Also Ja, bitte. Genau, aber Du hast mit Philipp Power gespielt und hast ihn grade degradiert. Nee, nein, nein. Dass er in deinem Team nicht viel beigebracht hat und trotzdem habt ihr das Team gewonnen. Nee, nicht trotzdem. Also sein moralischer Boost war ja von sehr großem Stellenwert, sag ich ja auch immer so. Ja, stark. Nicht vergessen. Ach so, und? Aber es waren schlechte, wenn man das noch mal ganz kurz Kritik an der Stelle ist, waren schlechte Bierpongbälle. Ah, okay. Das stimmt, das stimmt. Man musste lernen, wie man damit wirft. Ja, aber waren son Treffen, Die waren so leicht, da kam son Windstoß, hat 1 gepupst nebenan und zack, ist der Ball. Du hast sehr viel gepupster in der Situation. Ist der Ball. Ich hab's versucht, taktisch einzusetzen. Hat's funktioniert. Dass nur sein eigenes Teamwelt probiert. Ja. Wobei, also, wenn dich daran auch noch eine kleine kritisches Ding, ein kritisch Ding bemerken darf. Ich fand nämlich, ich war inspiriert letztes Jahr von der Decompiled, denn es gab dann abends auch eine Bar, also ne, es gab auch Getränke, was fürs Networking megacool war. Mhm. Und dann Das fand ich eigentlich 'n coolen Twist. Es gab dann Chips, die man sammeln konnte, Specialdrinks, also Longdrinks und hier Apolsprit und so was sich bestellen zu dürfen. Und dafür musste man diese Chips sammeln. Und letztes Jahr war das gefühlt super organisiert. Da gab's diese verschiedenen Stationen und dort stand dann immer 1 von Silicon Saxony und hat das son bisschen moderiert. Und das war halt explizit, aktiv das Networking zu unterstützen und zu sagen, hey, ne, kommt her und wenn ihr jetzt eine Runde Bierpong gespielt habt, dann kriegt ihr alle 'n Chip oder wenn ihr Tischkrieger gespielt habt oder Blackjack und da gab's noch mehr Sachen letztes Jahr, glaub ich, auch als dieses Jahr. Und irgendwie war gefühlt das das gleiche Konzept dieses Jahres, war nur keiner an den Stationen. Und deswegen war das son bisschen weird. Warum? Genau und ich mein, wir hatten halt den den das Glück, dass wir 'n paar Leute kannten, Ach so stimmt. Wie wir dann anpumpen konnten, mal son Chip zu bekommen. Auch ja. Geschichte für alle, Dennis kam auf einmal meine Schulter. Wir haben gar nicht gequatscht gehabt, den ganzen Arm und dann denk ich so, oh, gibt's 'n Chips? Wo wo krieg ich 'n noch Chips? Und der Ariana hat ja schon alles braun gesehen, gesagt, ah okay, da könnt ihr einen Kit, zack. Der auch keine hatte. Was? Er hat auch keine Ahnung. Nee, es weiß ich, ich brauch 'n paar Stationen, aber ich hab am Ende genug Abhol Spritz bekommen. Ich mag, ja, 'n bisschen zu viele. Dann hieß es dann hieß es auf einmal so, ach übrigens, Du fährst jetzt, Dave. Bin ich so, okay. Das war das war doch von vorne rein klar. Ja? Wir haben's nicht abgesprochen. Genau, es war ja, es war im Prinzip. Ja, genau. Und ich war irgendwie cool, mit dem Auto zu fahren. Ich war so hoch, das war irgendwie schön. Das kann ich gar nicht, wenn ich immer so tief sitze, so tiefsitze, so tief sitze, so tief sitze, so tiefsitze, so tiefsitze die verlegt das Auto. Ja, es ist Alter. Ja, es ist Alter, ja. Langsam find ich's so echt so Daddy Come cool, scheiße so. Ich kann echt in das Alter fuck. Ja. Wie alt bist Du echt, Dave? Ich bin 30 superjung, oder? Ja, ich bin jetzt 30 Ohren, ja. Ah nee, dann ist auch schon so. Nein, das ist alles auch schon so. 30 ging bei mir so drin los, also ab da hab ich dann immer gewusst. Ja, aber das das ist ja schon mit 20, also Talkan. Regt es. Ja. Aber gesundheitlich muss man schon sagen, also merkt man dir die 30 stark an. Ja, weil jetzt Also in der Wohnung all das Mögliche Gebrechen. Ich mein, Du bist wirklich 'n alter Mann jetzt. Das stimmt, ja gut, ja gut, aber diese Schulterverletzung, was sagt Das sagt derjenige, der gerade Tischtennis abgesagt hat. Ja, genau. Kannst Du denn, das ist so anstrengend, das war nicht im Podcast, das können wir nicht mehr schon sehen. Ach so und ein Pluspunkt Ja. Will ich auch noch mal sagen, also wieder bisschen zu die komplette zurückzukommen. Sorry. Tatsächlich, ich war mega geflasht von Dresden. Das will ich auch noch mal sagen, also weil ich find, das macht durchaus was aus. Ist natürlich mal die Frage, Dresden, ist natürlich immer die Frage, wie viel Zeit man da natürlich hat, wenn man da hinreist und auf der Konferenz ist und meistens vielleicht am selben Abend weggeht, aber wir sind ja am Abend vorher angekommen und ich ich hatte lang nicht mehr dieses Gefühl, ich bin durch die Altstadt gegangen, da haben Zwinger und es war dann zur Frauenkirche und so weiter. Und ich fand das richtig geil, dass ich hier einfach stehen geblieben bin und mich umgeschaut habe und gesagt habe, wie war also wie monumental ist das alles? Also ich ich hab jetzt Das hab ich mir so, das ist nur das ist die wichtigste Stadt Deutschlands, hab ich gerade gedacht. So, das ist irgendwie so so krass. Also es hatte son positiven Eindruck irgendwie und ich fand's megaschön, einfach so durch die Straße zu flanieren und einfach so Dresden auf mich wirken zu lassen. Wir waren ja auch in 2 Bars, Dennis, so und dachten wir, das waren so geile Bars. Ich war, wir waren ja auch in 2 Restaurants. Dann bin ich auch so, erst ist ganz gut und das irgendwie, also das ist einfach schön, also irgendwie so, also die Stadt an sich noch mal son bisschen kennenzulernen, auch wenn wir da jetzt natürlich, weil wir ja primär auf der Konferenz waren, nicht so viel mitbekommen haben, aber irgendwie und da Was werden wir noch in UK gelandet? Und was haben wir in UK gelandet? 'N RI. Geil. Großes Schnaudert, 'N großes Schnaudert zu nach RI. Nach RI. In in London. Partnerstadt von London. Ja. Südlich von London. Wir lassen uns das zur Partnerstadt von das neue Mal. Ja, das ist jetzt so geil. RI, ja. Genau. Na ja, das war Cool, cool, dass Du das sagst, Dave, das freut mich schon. Und er hat auch jetzt, also bisschen dresden unabhängig, aber nee, gleiche gleiche Eindrücke. Manchmal vermisse ich so Großstadt irgendwie, muss ich sagen. Ich mein, ich hab viele Jahre ja auch in Frankfurt gewohnt, aber ich fand das so schön, als ich zu dem Tech Round Liebildern Tech Round Table gefahren bin. Dann habe ich mir 'n Fahrrad hier einfach ausgeliehen auf der Straße Ja. Und bin halt im Sonnenuntergang genau auch da am am am Zwinger der Oper und so weiter vorbeigefahren über die Brücke und es war einfach eine superschöne Atmosphäre, sitzt auf seinem Rad. Das fühlte sich schön an, ja. Das war 'n schöner Moment. Und wie romantisch war das denn bitte, als ich da nachts in 'nem auf dem Roller dur auf dem Fahrrad, wo wir so gemeinsam durch die Nacht gefahren sind? Das war Ja. Das war, ach, himmlisch. Ach, mein Herz. Vielen Dank, Dave, auch an der Stelle. Ja, danke, dass wir willkommen bist. Ja, das war richtig cool. Wie wie langweilig wär's denn gewesen, wenn Du jetzt alleine laut gewesen wärst? Das wär sehr langweilig gewesen. Also außer die Gespräche mit Philipp. Genau. Ja. Und die Da hast ja viele Philippe gehabt, also Genau. 1 von den 12. Ach ja. Schön. So, Philipp, jetzt hast Du mal erlebt, wie es ist, wenn man eine Podcastfolge kurzhalten will und wir nähern uns jetzt 1 Stunde Aufnahmezeit. Klasse. So ist es, leider häufig. Da bin ich doch nicht mal alles losgeworden, also Ja. Was wärst Du gern noch gefragt worden, Philipp? Das ist genau eigentlich perfekt. Ui. Ja, schön. Ich jetzt jetzt bin ich Pistole auf der Brust. Ich hab, also lustigerweise, ich hab gedacht Fürs 4 und nicht. Wie lange ich die Programmierbauer schon höre. Und das kann ich euch nicht mal beantworten. Ich wollt heut früh Ich bin ja ich bin heute früher, ich war bin 4 aufgemacht, hab die ganze Zeit panisch. Alle Fragen bin ich durchgegangen und hab überlegt, was antworte ich, wenn der Dennis mich das fragt, das, das, das, das. Und die hat Was wär so die kritischeste Frage gewesen? Da da hast Du schon ganz gut getroffen. Ich Kurt, war jetzt irgendwie TSMC und so, also mit den ganzen Halbleiterzeug bei uns. Da war ich Okay. Jetzt quasi nicht vorbereitet. Sehr gut. Wo man das die ganze Zeit hat irgendwie, ich komm immer aus dieser Tech Szene und dreh davon, aber dann, wenn Du mich dann auf den Namen fragst, dann weiß ich das aber nicht. Nee, ich hätte gedacht, ihr fragt, wie lange ich die schon höre und ich könnte euch das nicht mehr beantworten. Ich muss das noch mal nachschauen. Ich seh das bestimmt bei Spotify. Weiß ich gar nicht. Na, ich hör jetzt auf relativ lange alte alte Folter. Das ist aber bevor Spotify gab. Wirklich? Nee, nee, nee, nee, nee, nee, so. Nein, nicht wirklich. Ich glaub, seit 22 hör ich auch erst, also das ich euch gibt's ja schon viel, viel länger. Ja, seit 2019? Ja, ne? 2019. Okay. Ich glaub, ich bin 22 dazugekommen. Das wär ja noch mal interessant, ob ich das nachschaue und vielleicht auch noch mal, was ich Also ich wollt eigentlich noch noch mal vielen Dank sagen an die Programmierbar, wie ihr was ihr hier macht. Das prägt meinen Alltag. Ich schreib euch das ja ganz oft. Ich find das wirklich cool. Also ich als Beispiel, ich, sonst bin ich immer früher, ihr kennt jetzt den ja, wir saßen immer früh da, als wir noch die Firma hatten und saßen da, hatten Zeit, haben drüber gequatscht über die Tikthemen, über die ihr auch quatscht. Und wir hatten auch ähnliche solche Gespräche und irgendwann war das natürlich nicht mehr möglich und krieg ich jetzt immer über euren Podcast. So, ich mach wieder früh, wenn ich auf Arbeit laufe oder auf mit Fahrrad fahre oder im Auto sitze, mach ich mir das Ding an und dann fühl ich mich immer wie, als ob ich bei euch mit dabeisitze. Und das find ich total cool. Und und jetzt bist Du dabei? Und jetzt Das ist Mindblowing, also Ja. Deswegen Ach, schön. Vielen, vielen Dank. Das freut uns und motiviert uns mega. Ja, das das Kommt jetzt beide so Ich find das richtig cool. Danke sehr. Ach, Dave, ja? Hast Du noch was zu ergänzen? Nee, ich hab überlegt, ob man vielleicht zum Abschluss so sagen könnte, wem empfiehlt man jetzt konkret Ja. Auf die D-Compile zu gehen? Hörerinnen. Allen, einfach. Einfach. Ausnahm. Ausnahmschall. Ja, kann man so sagen. Ja, aber Ich hätte noch ich hätte vielleicht die Ergänzung halt, also ich kenn ganz viele, das ist, ich komm, ich bin ja mit dem Problem konfrontiert und ich hab's ja selber erfahren, geht aus dieser Komfortzone raus als Entwickler. Also denkt nicht immer nur an diesen Deep Shit Kubernetes und Kubernetes, alle möglichen Technologien, sondern probiert. Und grade für so was sind die Konferenzen super, einfach mal aus dieser Bubble rauszukommen und zu gucken und mal rauszugehen genau auf diese Metathemen, Produkt, warum mach ich das? Warum code ich das? Warum sitz ich den ganzen Tag gerne am Rechner? Und warum sollt ich was sollt ich da machen? Und grade jetzt mit AI, jetzt geht alles noch viel, viel schneller und jetzt kann man noch viel mehr besser Impact machen. Und für genau so was und für genau die Leute ist, glaub ich, auch sone Konferenz super, weil man kommt da raus, man redet da drüber und geht so quasi auch mal son Schritt raus aus dem Deep Tech, so würde ich jetzt sagen. Ah. Mhm. Also ich würd trotzdem den allen Leuten empfehlen, wenn sie halt jetzt irgendwie Infrastruktur machen, dann sollen sie halt auf spezialisierte Events gehen, aber wenn's halt darum geht, Impact, warum mach ich das? Warum kod ich? Was kann ich damit machen? Dann auf jeden Fall klare Empfehlung. Aber wie gesagt, einmal alles vorsichtig genießen mit meiner, ja, die Geschichte gehört. Aber cool, wenn's euch gefallen hat, dann freut mich das am allermeisten. Das war mir wichtig. Ja, das Und und schreibt auf jeden Fall Kritik an die die Compide, weil da die werden die lesen das Feedback auf jeden Fall und die probieren das wirklich jedes Jahr auch besser zu machen. Das ist auch so was, was ich ziemlich cool finde. Also die arbeiten da Da sind richtig coole Leute dahinter, also die Ja. Die lesen das durch und die nehmen das auch ernst, gerade wenn ihr so was schreibt, dann ist das noch mal noch mal spannender. Ja, nee, ihr solltet euch ja da nicht so unterschätzen, also Live Podcasts gab's halt auch noch nicht vorher, deswegen. Das stimmt. Ja, das stimmt. Ja, cool. Dann hoffen wir, dass wir nächstes Jahr vielleicht auch wieder was zusammen machen können da auf der die Compile und wieder da sein werden. Ich würd mich übrigens freuen. Also und dann kommt gleich alle alle alle Zuhörer kommen gleich mal mit. Dann machen wir doch auch 'n großes Klassentreffen. Treffen wir uns einmal Anfang des Jahres, dann einmal auf der Programmierkorn und dann Oh, stimmt. Sehr gut, ja. Sehr gut. Oh, da werden wir so Partnerkonferenzen machen Oh. Irgendwann. Unsere Partnerkonferenzen Und dann machen wir so versteckte solche Easter Eggs so, dass man man muss da da gewesen sein, damit man dann dort irgendwie das nächste Schloss aufbauen. Man kann hier die Typ sammeln. Ja. Sehr gut. Alles klar. Gut. Vielen Dank Philipp, dass Du die Zeit hattest. Ja, vielen Dank fürs Reden. Hat uns sehr gefreut. Wurde Insights auf jeden Fall noch mal von deiner Seite aus. Ja. Und bleib uns ein treuer Hörer. Ja, auf alle Fälle. Danke auf jeden Fall für die Einladung. Das ich war, ich wollt, Du hattest geschrieben Dennis und ich hab die, mir erst Momente sofort gehabt, nee, nee, nee, kann ich nicht, kann ich nicht, kann ich nicht, kann ich nicht, kann ich nicht. Und dann hab ich gesagt, nee, jetzt komm komm raus aus deiner Komfortzone, Philipp. Sehr gut. Gutes Mindset. Souveränes souveränes Auftreten für deine erste Podcastfolge. Dankeschön. Macht's gut, bis bald. 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Wir sprechen nämlich heute über die Compiled Konferenz in Dresden und machen ein kurzes Recap damit. Ich bin Dennis Becker und Hier ist Dave Acker, David Kusczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczc Gast. Kann man kann man Superlativ. Kann man fast schon sagen.\n\nJa, wir sind nämlich sehr froh, ihn als Hörer zu haben, der Programmierer schon seit langer, langer Zeit. Und er hat uns netterweise immer schönes Feedback hinterlassen und mag, glaube ich, die Programmierer einigermaßen. Umso schöner ist es, dass wir heute die Möglichkeit haben, ihn mal hier den Podcast zu hören, denn er war mit auf der Konferenz und hat deswegen mit Sicherheit 'n bisschen was auch darüber zu berichten. Guten Morgen, Philipp Leein.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, moin moin. Bin der Philipp, großer Programmierfan und freu mich, hier zu sein. Also ist für mich eine sehr, sehr große Ehre. Ich könnt jetzt schon anfangen, ganz viel zu reden, aber ich hör direkt erst mal auf. Und das würde ich Ich mag\n\nSpeaker 2: ich mag diese Energie am Anfang schon, ne. Ja, find ich find's. Geil.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also ich bin richtig hyped. Also ich hab quasi, ich bin aufgeregt, weil ich hab die Windeln an, aber auch die die die Hypbrillen und die Fanbrillen quasi, also\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr, sehr gut. Judi, die Compiled in Dresden, da waren Dave und ich zusammen von der Programmierbar Slash Lotum aus. Er hat letzte Woche am Was war das? Donnerstagter, fünfzehnte März. Ja.\n\nZwölfter, 13, was soll man? So rund den März. Hat die stattgefunden in Dresden?\n\nSpeaker 2: Es war der zwölfte.\n\nSpeaker 3: Und es\n\nSpeaker 2: ist auch Freitag der Dreizehnte. Ich erinnere mich jetzt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ah, sehr gut. Es war war der zwölfte bereits und genau, wir machen ja manchmal in der Programmier war son bisschen Recaps zu Konferenzen, euch son bisschen Einblick zu geben, was waren da für Themen? Was hat gut funktioniert? Was hat nicht so gut funktioniert? Es ist das, was man empfehlen würde.\n\nSo, Decompiled. Philipp, Du kennst Du kennst Du die ganze Geschichte rund Decompiled? Also wo kommt die her? Seit wann gibt's die? Wie viel weißt Du da?\n\n'N bisschen was weiß ich mich auch.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich hab bisschen recherchiert vorher. Ich kann mich auch nicht mehr gerne dran erinnern, aber die verfolgt mich schon so mein ganzes Entwicklerleben hier in Dresden. Ich glaub, die erste war 20 18. 20 18 war die erste und da war das von Lavoo getrieben und war so die, ich glaub, das war auch so die erste große Konferenz, die ich besucht habe, so weil in Dresden gibt's nicht so viel. Es gibt noch den JugG Sachsen Idee und na ja, da vergisst's jetzt auf Anhieb vielleicht 'n paar.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber die DecomPipe war so das erste große Ding. Und dann, glaub ich, 20 18 und dann zwischendrin in Coronazeiten war sie mal nicht. Und jetzt war ich die letzten 2 Jahre wieder, also 24, 25 und 26 jetzt auch dabei gewesen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gut. Genau. Und ich muss ja Bei bei Silicon Saxing muss ich immer son bisschen schmunzeln. Geiler Name.\n\nSpeaker 1: Geiler Name.\n\nSpeaker 2: Geiler Name. Geiler Name.\n\nSpeaker 3: Genau. Geiler Name.\n\nSpeaker 2: Genau. Geiler Name.\n\nSpeaker 0: Genau. Das sind ja die Mitveranstalter heute. Also ich glaub, nachdem Lavoo das irgendwie aufgegeben hat oder gesagt hat, hey, wir haben nicht Kapazitäten, da das weiterzumachen, hat dann Silicon Saxony gesagt, komm, wir übernehmen das. Und Silicon Saxy, 'n Saxony ist ja so 'n ne.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ich merk\n\nSpeaker 2: schon, ich hoff, Du versprichst. Du guckst dich auch mit immer mit so einem Augenzwinkern an. Ja, ich mag das, ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ist ja sone, ein Verein ist das Falsche, glaube ich, wie nennt man das? Dann\n\nSpeaker 2: Eine Lebenseinstellung. Eine Gang. Gruppierung.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, eine Gruppierung. Ich hab keine richtigen Beobachterführung. Industrie, nee Industrie, da gibt's auch nicht Nationen. Netzwerk vielleicht auch,\n\nSpeaker 3: so 'n\n\nSpeaker 1: Netzwerk, wo sich irgendwie halt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Genau.\n\nSpeaker 1: Geht da ganz irgendwie viel in Metroelektronik und so was halt. Genau, was glaube ich ganz nicht zusammentrommelt in Sachsen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, was sich ganz viele glaube ich gar nicht wissen, dass und erst mal kommt's einfach vielleicht 'n bisschen der Vergleich so mit Silicon Valley ein bisschen lustig aber tatsächlich ist ja Dresden einen relativ großer Produktionsstandort für Halbleiter und ich glaube, aus aus dem Umfeld kommt das auch son bisschen und dass da vor allen Dingen die Firmen vertreten sind.\n\nSpeaker 2: Welche welche großen Firmen sind da noch\n\nSpeaker 1: mal, was Halbleiter angeht in in Dresden? Jo.\n\nSpeaker 0: Google doch.\n\nSpeaker 2: Weiß ich nicht. Weil weil ich Also irgendwie irgendwas in mir will Intel sagen, aber Intel wollte irgendwie hin, aber ist dann doch nicht dorthin gegangen, oder? Also Intel ist nicht da.\n\nSpeaker 0: Boah, ja, Silicon Saxony, das googeln wir jetzt grade mal irgendwie parallel und machen das gleich noch hinterher. Du könntest auch mal gucken. Ich\n\nSpeaker 1: weiß, dass ich will jetzt auch nichts zweites sagen, deswegen halte ich mich grad noch mal zurück.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, aber es ist ja auch nicht so wichtig, aber also viele wichtige\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, genau. Finierarbeit, Infineon ist dabei.\n\nSpeaker 0: Okay, das ist TCI.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich weiß nicht, ob die, also ist, die bauen den Standort, aber ich weiß gar nicht, wie weit das da ist. Also gerade auch oben wird ganz viel gebaut. Das sieht Man sieht jetzt mal über die Skyline von Dresden sieht man diesen Dieses große Konstrukt, was da gebaut wird, aber ich bin da auch nicht so tief im Game. Also\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, aber ich glaube, das ist auch son der Grund gewesen, warum sich durchaus auch einige andere Technologieunternehmen da, ne, versammelt haben und so ein bisschen, ja, einige Entwicklungsteams einfach in Dresden und Umgebung sitzen. Dresden. Ja. Genau. Gut und ich glaube, der der Initial wie nennt man das bei 'ner Konferenz?\n\nErsteller, Creator?\n\nSpeaker 3: Der Gründervater.\n\nSpeaker 2: Der Gründervater. Der\n\nSpeaker 0: Gründer, der ist ja auch noch da rumgesprungen. Also das ist ja schon durchaus, dass er Weißt Du den Namen noch?\n\nSpeaker 1: Wer ist der Gründervater vom von der DecomPald? Also ich kenn son paar Leute dahinter der hinter den hinter den Das sind nicht klar.\n\nSpeaker 0: So kleine, nicht der größte und lockige Haare. Nein? Ich denk. Na ja, also es ist,\n\nSpeaker 2: genau, es ist Ist ja mal bei Alexander Presk? Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 1: Oh, das ist nicht, also der der das ist der, den ich am meisten kenne, der hat uns irgendwie auch immer, der ist im Start-up-unter zeugt da in Dresden unterwegs\n\nSpeaker 3: Ah, okay.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und den kenn ich ganz viel. Den hab ich auch gleich früh im in der Bahn getroffen, als wir hingefahren sind. Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 3: Und ja,\n\nSpeaker 1: der ist immer so\n\nSpeaker 0: dreist, ja. Das Ding ist, mein mein Namensgedächtnis ist leider auch mit 38 noch nicht besser geworden. Von daher tu ich 'n bisschen schwer. Ich weiß nur, dass als wir an dort angekommen sind, Dave und ich und wurden von einem begrüßt und hat gesagt, ja, ich mach das schon seit Anfang an. Ich hatte mit die Grundidee hat er uns erzählt und aber an den Namen kann ich mich nicht erinnern.\n\nDave offensichtlich auch nicht so ihr guckt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich glaub Okay, ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaub, Lutz hat uns doch begrüßt oder?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, wir wurden von mehreren Leuten\n\nSpeaker 2: Wir wurden von sehr vielen Leuten begrüßt. Also, wir wurden sehr herzlich aufgenommen auf jeden Fall Ja. Und von sehr vielen Leuten begrüßt. Genau. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 0: So, den ganzen Mal 'n bisschen Struktur zu geben. Also, da geht's erst mal die D Compite. Ich glaub, wir haben 2 2 Parts, über die wir sprechen können. Ja. Zum einen waren wir ja dort, weil wir eingeladen waren, auch einen Live Podcast zu machen.\n\nDas heißt, wir durften auf der großen Bühne\n\nSpeaker 2: Die waren auf der Bühne?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, auf der Bühne.\n\nSpeaker 2: Live Podcast\n\nSpeaker 0: durften wir live eine Aufgabe aufnehmen, aufzeichnen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und das\n\nSpeaker 0: ist der eine Part und der andere Part ist halt, was war sonst noch so los auf der Konferenz und was gab's für coole Talks? Genau. Und dafür haben wir vor allen Dingen ja auch Philipp hier, denn wir beide waren irgendwie dann ab diesem Moment auch gar nicht mehr so viel auf der Konferenz, weil wir zum einen den Podcast hatten. Danach hatten wir noch 2 weitere Podcastaufnahmen\n\nSpeaker 2: Sehr gute\n\nSpeaker 0: Podcastaufnahmen. Sehr gute Podcastaufnahmen. Sehr gute Podcastaufnahmen. Mhm. Mit Speaker*innen, die dort auf der Konferenz waren und wir dann im Nebengebäude, schautout an.\n\nSpeaker 2: Vodafone. Na wirklich, also weil Du hast halt auch Forschung und so. Ich glaube, son Vodafone wurde für so ganz viel Forschungsgraben. Da wurden wir auch von sonem digitalen Mann empfangen. Das hat so okay funktioniert.\n\nAber eigentlich wirklich interessantes Gebäude. Die die forschen da so an\n\nSpeaker 1: Digitaler Mann? Wie wie kann ich mir das vorstellen?\n\nSpeaker 2: Na ja, also es war so son riesen sone riesige Stähle quasi, so so zweieinhalb Meter groß oder so. Und da war halt son Typ und da so, hallo, ich bin der Olaf? Ich weiß nicht mehr, wie der hieß.\n\nSpeaker 3: Und er\n\nSpeaker 2: hat gesagt so, ich kann euch eine Tour geben. Über was wollt ihr mir erfahren? Wir machen hier AI, wir machen hier XR, wir machen VR. Ist irgendwas, was euch interessiert? Ich so, ja, VR klingt interessant und ab dann war's schon vorbei, also ich weiß\n\nSpeaker 1: nicht, wie gut das\n\nSpeaker 2: funktioniert, aber es soll, glaube ich Du warst ja\n\nSpeaker 0: noch 'n bisschen beleidigt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich hab\n\nSpeaker 2: auch 'n bisschen beleidigt,\n\nSpeaker 0: vielleicht hatte dann kein Lust mehr. Ja. Das Ganze auch.\n\nSpeaker 2: Hintergrund sitzt immer so 1, den Wodsport. Also ich ist da einfach eben eingesperrt in diesen Ding.\n\nSpeaker 1: Na ja,\n\nSpeaker 2: Anyway. Ja. Schaut doch in Vodafone. Ja, schon Und Du bist\n\nSpeaker 0: Mandy, die uns ermöglicht hat, da einen Raum zu buchen Mandy. Und da die Podcastaufnahmen ja eben zu machen. Das war sehr cool. Mhm. Gut.\n\nWas ist denn eigentlich das Zielpublikum der die Compiled, Philipp?\n\nSpeaker 1: Also das Ziel, die die Zielgruppe ist, hat sich doch, glaub ich, son bisschen gewandelt. Also zum Start hin war's irgendwie sehr breit gefächert. Da ging's immer irgendwie man hat immer gelesen, es geht alles. Das war auch so bissel die Kritik an der an der Messe am Anfang. Es geht die Cloud.\n\nIch glaub, ich weiß gar nicht mehr genau, was war Cloud, Web und Mobile oder so was.\n\nSpeaker 0: Da da\n\nSpeaker 1: kannst Du ja schon irgendwie in einem Tag, da gab's dann immer 3 Tracks. Also ich geh jetzt mal von der Geschichte aus. Ich find's sowieso über's sehr spannend, weil es treffen jetzt die 2 Welten und ich bin total gespannt, was ihr sagt. Für mich, ich verfolg die ja schon 'n bisschen länger und ich bin so emotional an der an der dran. Vielleicht geh die Leute dahinter, deswegen ist das alles immer mit Vorsicht zu genießen, was ich erzähle.\n\nFür mich ist das sone emotionale Veranstaltung, genauso wie das emotional ist für mich, heute hier zu sein, ist das Und das Zielpublikum hat sich son bisschen gewandelt. Es geht unglaublich mehr darum, dass die Entscheider kommen. Also son bisschen, das hat man auch in den Talks gemerkt, es ist so mehr diese Es wird viel mehr auf die Metaebene gehoben. Und vor allem, was ich total spannend finde, wo wir uns hoffentlich eilig sind, ist, dass Produkt und Tech viel mehr an zueinanderfinden sollen. Und deswegen gibt's auch sone dedizierten seit, ich glaub, seit 2 Jahren oder seit letztem Jahr, ich weiß nicht ganz genau, son dedizierten stage quasi, wo nur Vorträge sind über Product.\n\nUnd ich find das das find ich halt total cool, weil dann diese beiden Welten zusammenkommen. Du hast nicht diesen Deep nur nicht nur die Deep Tech Leute, sondern Du hast auch die Produkt Leute, also son dein P o kannst Du mitnehmen. Du kannst alle möglichen Leute im Produkt mitnehmen und die können sich mit den Technikern austauschen und so. Und ich glaub, das ist son bisschen die das Ziel davon, ne. Also ich steck da jetzt auch nicht in den Planungen mit dahinter, deswegen kann ich das nicht sagen, aber das ist mein Gefühl, was das Tierpublikum ist.\n\nGrade so, wenn man sich die Talks anguckt, dass die Es geht ging halt, es war immer sehr auf auf der Metaebene. Es gab, glaub, son paar vereinzelte richtige Deep Tech Sachen, aber also ich glaub, das ist nicht mehr so das das Ziel davon. Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 3: Okay.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich weiß nicht, wie wie ihr das so wahrgenommen habt. Ich mein, er wart jetzt nicht auf so vielen Talks, habt ihr gesagt, aber\n\nSpeaker 2: ja, zumindest die, die ich mitbekommen habe, ging schon auch nicht in eine nur technische Richtung oder halt eher so, ne, wie strukturieren wir uns als Team, gerade auch im Zeitalter von AI, so, wie arbeiteten wir da quasi als Mensch dazwischen so? Also weil ja doch, würde ich sagen, das ist eher so Metathemen. Dass man da wirklich so ganz tief eingetaucht ist, funktioniert das jetzt auf der tiefsten technischen Ebene?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, das Ding ist halt, ich hab auch überlegt, ne, also ich mein, das ist natürlich auch ein Teil der Weiterentwicklung von uns rum, ne. Ich hab auch also für den Podcast ist ja auch irgendwo fraglich in der Zukunft. Ich mein, wir machen aktuell Deep Dives über verschiedene Frameworks und Technologien, haben wir viel gemacht in der Vergangenheit. Wie relevant ist das in Zeiten von AI, ne? Ist das noch das, was einen dann wirklich interessiert, weil man den noch irgendwie explizit benutzt?\n\nVermutlich nicht. Sondern es geht dann eben wie arbeitet man zusammen? Wie arbeitet man mit diesem System? Na, also es verschiebt sich ja auch son bisschen eben einmal Richtung Produkt, wie Du korrekterweise sagst, auch stärker. Und ja, dann eben in in in diese anderen Bereiche noch und weniger in dieses ganz Tiefe.\n\nWird spannend sein, ob's dran irgendwann mal dedizierte Konferenz gibt, wo ist das irgendwie trotzdem noch Also gefühlt wird's ja son paar Leute noch geben, die es in Grenzen hier und da machen müssen dürfen. Ja, die\n\nSpeaker 3: die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die\n\nSpeaker 1: die die die die die die es gibt natürlich auch die Leute, geht uns ja auch so. Im Herzen sind wir Entwickler und früher bin ich auf die Konferenzen gegangen und wollte den hören. Also ich wollt dann irgendwie hören, Kubernetes sind Kubernetes. Wie mach ich das? Wie macht das große Firmen und et cetera et cetera.\n\nHeutzutage guck ich mir das halt ich mir das einfach online an oder ich muss sowieso über sein. Ah.\n\nSpeaker 3: So und\n\nSpeaker 1: ich kann mir irgendwie 10 Minuten den Vortrag so deep anhören, dann hört's bei mir schon immer meistens auf, dann schreib ich mir das auf und nehm's mir mit. Wenn ich bei, ob bei euch zum Beispiel bei der Programmier Con, ich mir son paar Sachen, da konnt ich dann irgendwie dem dem, wie hieß der Selte Gründer, den konnt ich so 10 Minuten folgen. Dann hab ich mir gesagt, okay, Selte, doch mal angucken, folgende Sachen. Aber da drin steigst Du ja dann irgendwann aus. Also das ist so, also zumindest geht mir das so Und das hat sich auch mit der Zeit gewandelt.\n\nAlso mein mein mein mein Mindset ist jetzt immer so, ich geh auf Konferenzen. Früher bin ich da hingegangen, was zu wirklich mir die Vorträge anzuhören und was mitzunehmen. Und jetzt also das es geht mir jetzt bei vielen bei bei der Decompheit besonders, weil ich da halt, das ist son bisschen wie das Klassentreffen in Dresden. Da kommst Du hin, redest mit den Leuten und ja, also und merkst halt aus alt, triffst halt alle Leute zu über und quatsch über die Probleme, die sie haben und meistens reden alle über AI aktuell.\n\nSpeaker 3: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und dann redet man über Ja, also ich glaube, das\n\nSpeaker 0: das merkt man auch, dass da 'n relativ großer Fokus drauf ist. Also ich mein, die Mittagspause allein ist Sorry, Fokus auf? Auf Networking, sorry. Ja. Okay, sehr gut.\n\nJa. Auf aufs Network Netzwerken allein die Mittagspause sind ja irgendwie 2 Stunden, was so für eine ITG Konferenz irgendwie schon relativ lange ist. Jetzt haben wir da während der Mittagspause 'n bisschen Bescheid und manchen vielleicht die Mittagspause 'n bisschen verkürzt. Aber das fand ich ja auch\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, süß, heutzutage zu sagen, ne? Versüßt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Und das fand ich eigentlich auch aber auch ganz, ganz schön, dass das so eher als, ne, als Rahmenangebot war, dass man da mal irgendwie 'n bisschen reinhören konnte, ja und so weiter. Zugegebenermaßen waren wir 'n bisschen Ging bei mir der Herzschlag 'n bisschen höher, als Johannes Braun die Konferenz eröffnet hat Und sagte so, ja, mein persönliches Highlight heute ist die Podcastaufnahme. Und dachte ich so, oh, okay. Und wenn ich dann dann gucken wir mal und\n\nSpeaker 2: vergesst auf keinen Fall in der Mittagspause da zuzuschalten. Also hier wischt ich noch mal noch mal die 5 Ankündigung.\n\nSpeaker 0: Dafür, dass wir das dann das erste Mal gemacht haben. Ja. War hoffentlich okay. Also ich glaube Habt\n\nSpeaker 1: ihr gut gemacht, habt ihr gut gemacht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Es gibt so, ich hab\n\nSpeaker 1: 'n paar Sachen, die ich, wo ich mir denke, was man noch machen kann, aber da ich hab auch 'n paar Geschichten dazu.\n\nSpeaker 3: Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 1: Gut, dann noch mal. Nicht die kannst\n\nSpeaker 0: Du direkt die kannst Du direkt öffentlich teilen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Soll ich dich gleich mal öffentlich teilen. Also für mich ist das natürlich 'n großer Umwelt gewesen, die programmierbar live. Ich fand's cool. Ich hab bis jetzt einmal 'n Podcast live gehört. Ich gehör ab und zu, gute Laune zu kommen, Kaulitz Hills.\n\nSpeaker 0: Mhm. Da hab ich ja\n\nSpeaker 1: mit den Kaulitz Brüdern und die hatten neben Hamburg mal sone live Liveshow gemacht und die war halt schon, also die hab ich als Mess quasi als Messlatte genommen. Die ist halt krass gewesen. Das sind halt so total diese Showtypen. Das hab ich jetzt auch nicht erwartet von euch oder so was, ne. Und jetzt irgendwie gar nicht kritisch oder so, ne.\n\nAber ich hab mir so vorgestellt, ihr könntet ja theoretisch Programmierbar sone Bar hinbauen. Da hätte man wahrscheinlich den, wie hieß er, ich hab den Namen vergessen von von GitHub.\n\nSpeaker 0: Pierre, Pierre, Pierre. Pierre.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Da hätte man vielleicht dann noch son bisschen, wenn man irgendwie Der Dave hätte dagestanden, der hat seine Cocktails gemacht. Muss ja jetzt nicht alkoholisch sein oder so was, sondern kann ja auch alkoholfrei sein, hätte man den vielleicht noch son bisschen aus der Reserve locken können. Der war so sehr, ah, den hat man irgendwie nicht richtig greifen können. Ich wollte immer so, ich fand das cool, Dennis, dass Du da probiert hast, so das persönlich mit reinzubringen.\n\nDazu auch eine Geschichte. Man konnte ja so boten und Fragen stellen. Und Dave, Du hattest immer reingeguckt in die Fragen. Und ganz am Anfang waren relativ wenig Fragen drin und dann hab ich mich irgendwann getraut. Ich hab ewig lang überlegt, post ich jetzt was, frag ich.\n\nUnd eigentlich bin ich immer so Fan, grade bei den CTO Specials, ich find das Persönliche. Ich wollt unbedingt wissen, wie sieht denn den den sein Alltag aus?\n\nSpeaker 3: Der\n\nSpeaker 1: hat immer so, ich will jetzt nicht hören, was der wie wie der über AI denkt. Das kann ich mir vorstellen bei GitHub ungefähr, wie das aussieht. Aber ich will so wissen, wie ändert sich denn sein Alltag? Wie viel benutzt er AI? Wie sieht das bei denen aus?\n\nIch stell mir das total stressig grad bei GitHub vor, weil ich die mein meine, die machen ja auch 'n, die müssen ja auch großes Pushy voranschreiten mit AI in 'nem Thema. Und da hat er sich irgendwie nicht so richtig catchen lassen, aber Du hattest die Frage irgendwann noch rausgeholt, Dennis, weil meine Frage ist dann irgendwann ganz weit runtergetaucht, weil die niemand gevotet hat. Ich hab gedacht, och Mann, ey, was ist das ist doch das ist doch traurig. Da hab ich mir private Fenster aufgemacht. Bei Wils ist auch viermal dran gevotet.\n\nDa ist es son kleines Stückchen hochgegangen, aber irgendwann hab ich auch gegeben, weil dann kamen dann ganz viele andere Sachen, Mhm. Die dann hochgegangen sind, die ja dann auch berechtigterweise gefragt haben. Aber ich war total cool, Dennis, dass Du dann, ich hab hier irgendwo noch mal irgendwo eine Frage, war das, ich wollt dein, noch mal das Persönliche, weil das ist für mich immer Programmierbar, ist son bisschen auch was Persönliches. Fand ich cool, dass Du das noch gefragt hattest. Das war so mein Moment.\n\nSpeaker 2: Sehr gut. Cool. Gut, macht denn das.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ersten Reihe. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich muss Ja, es ist, das fand ich auch, also Retop vielleicht noch mal ganz kurz über diesen Live Podcast zu reden. Ich muss sagen, also ich hab echt unterschätzt, ich bin glaube ich etwas zu entspannt dahin gegangen, ich hab echt unterschätzt, wie schwierig das dann doch ist so quasi erstens live, ne? Du hast ja irgendwie so, also erstens Du hörst das halt über die Anlage so, deswegen also Akustik war jetzt nicht ganz optimal, so war also vollkommen fein, aber gleichzeitig das Gespräch zu verfolgen. Auf Englisch dann noch mal so, das trotzdem mir sone Fünfprozenthürde so, dass es 'n bisschen schwieriger macht. Dann gleichzeitig hat mir so, oh ja, es ist 'n Live Podcast, wir wollen ja das Publikum hier irgendwie mit mit einbeziehen und dann irgendwie so parallel auf Chat geguckt, der so, fuck, was hat Pia gerade gesagt, so, wo sind wir gerade?\n\nUnd es also, es hat mich doch kognitiv doch 'n bisschen mehr belastet, als ich am Anfang vermutet habe. Ja. Aber deswegen war's, glaub ich, auch also sehr gut, dass wir zu zweit auf der Bühne waren und uns beide son bisschen da die\n\nSpeaker 1: Das hat man euch nicht angemerkt. Also das fand ich nicht, also das war schön schon strukturiert und\n\nSpeaker 3: so was.\n\nSpeaker 1: War ja noch so, ich dachte so, wenn man live macht, kann man vielleicht noch so einen sone sone Schippe noch noch irgendwas Cooles dazu bauen, so, damit Absolut. Der Kopf bleibt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Absolut. Ich bin auch Also ich bin jetzt nicht unzufrieden, aber ich würde sagen, so fürs erste Mal war's okay, aber ich hab auch einige Ideen, was wir anders und besser machen können. Und ich glaube, die Faktoren, die Du genannt hast Also Sprache, nicht ganz klar abgestecktes Thema so, bin ich eigentlich recht offen für das zu machen und gerade der Programmierbar. Dort im Setting halt 'n bisschen schwierig, weil wir auch nicht genau wussten, was sind die Inhalte der Keynote, was auch in der Zeit, ne. Ich hab meine ja teilweise gesagt, ja, die letztes Wochenende habe ich das gemacht.\n\nAlso auch das entwickelt sich halt so schnell, dass man dann nicht so wahnsinnig Ja. Sich drauf vorbereiten kann. Ja. Genau. Plus ja, dann auch immer so bisschen das Wissen, okay, gibt son paar Sachen, so immer Business Sachen und so was, über die Leute natürlich auch nicht gerne gefragt werden, wenn\n\nSpeaker 1: man Man hat man gemerkt, dass\n\nSpeaker 0: man so. Ja, da in irgend eine Richtung zu pushen. Ja, aber hat trotzdem super Spaß gemacht. Also war Safe. War war mega cool.\n\nAuch geil grade\n\nSpeaker 1: mit Vampir oder so, aber ich find das immer krass. Also die Leute da Ich kann das gar nicht, sodass die die lassen sich überhaupt nicht in die Karten schauen, so. Das ist so total wie wie ausm wie son richtiger Sales Dude gefühlt, so Ja, ja. Gar nicht irgendwie Ja, ich find's der vielleicht jeder gesagt nix irgendwie irgendwo ausgerutscht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich find das beeindruckend, also wie man wie man so eloquent irgendwie sprechen kann, auch über die Themen und so was. Finde ich richtig, richtig cool eigentlich auch. Ja. Also das, ich mein, da war ja auch 'n super, in dem Sinne auch sehr einfacher Gast, ne, weil Du musstest nicht viel hinwerfen und er hat das eigentlich dann, ne, in irgendwie in in in seinen Worten sehr gut eingeordnet. Aber er fand, ich fand auch ganz süß, er hatte vorher, als wir noch nicht auf der Aufnahme waren, so zu uns gesagt, ey, für mich ist das heute so entspannt hier.\n\nWeil ich mein, er spricht beispielsweise auf GitHub Universe auch, ne, mit irgendwie 5000 Leuten. Und dann sagt er, hinter der Bühne sitzt die Rechtsabteilung und Du hast die im\n\nSpeaker 2: Ohr, ne? Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und die reden dir zwischendurch da rein, zu sagen, hey, vorsichtig, nicht in die Richtung und so was. Das ist ja Genau, also das das kann man sich so gar nicht vorstellen, welchen Settings das dann immer ist. Und ich glaube, da war war ganz cool, da einfach dass er son bisschen freier Und er hat auch gesagt, das, ne, Folienset, also es war ja seins, sonst musste halt sich eine strikt an irgendwie GitHub Vorgaben und wie hat das auszusehen? Von daher war es für ihn ganz schöner, ein bisschen freier in in der Runde mal sein zu können. Aber das fand ich irgendwie eine ganz ganz ganz lustige Ja.\n\nDer Tote.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich fand also also Retalk, ich muss sagen also noch mal echt sagen, Props an Pierre, weil also auch also wie er sich Ich fand das so krass so, ne, wo wo der gesagt, also der hat eben die Frage aufgenommen, und irgendwie son Bild erzeugt in seiner Aussage, ne. Du musst es dir aber so vorstellen und dann ne, wenn wir das jetzt so gesamtheitlich betrachten, ich so krass Alter, also wieder sone richtige Story in seiner Antwort und das ist gerade irgendwie so, ich weiß nicht ob das eine Repertoire ist, außer dem sie sich bedient, aber es ist einfach so so spontan dieses Bild zu erzeugen. Es war so richtig, man konnte ihm richtig gut, ich fand das ich fand das atemberaubend, also ich fand das,\n\nSpeaker 0: ich war\n\nSpeaker 2: wirklich so wow, wow. Ich war so auf der Bühne, ich hab mir gedacht, wow, wie Du redest, ich lieb das, ich lieb das voll. Das ist also wirklich, also Dropsoper an der Stelle.\n\nSpeaker 0: Muss man seine Keynote auch lassen, ne? Die fand ich auch richtig gut. Die war halt so irgendwie, ja. Ja. Was eine Keynote machen soll, son bisschen inspirieren, bisschen, ne, Mindset irgendwie geben und dann auch so halt 'n bisschen auf dem Privaten geplaudert, wie er sich da sein eigenes Hardware Rack irgendwie gebaut hat und an Idlms son bisschen rumzuforschen und so.\n\nWar sehr nahbar. Also das war war sehr gut. Gerade da wollte ich dich auch noch mal fragen, Philipp so, weil Englisch war ja jetzt am Randpunkt, ne. Ich meine, wir haben jetzt das war unsere dritte englische Folge, die wir so haben und natürlich hemmt das in 'ner gewissen Weise, dass wir nicht so wie in unserer Muttersprache sprechen können und wenn an der Wortwitze auf Englisch nicht ganz so Ganz so was\n\nSpeaker 1: wir auch noch.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das stimmt, das stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und eben, es waren ja alle, also ausschließlich alles, was ich gehört habe auf der Konferenz abseits der Talks war Deutsch. Also ich hab keinen einzigen, ich hab keine einzige Konversation gehört, die Englisch a, wo ich mich dann frage so, also ich verstehe den Anspruch irgendwo international dann zu sein, aber hältst Du es für eine richtige Entscheidung, die Talks dann auf Englisch zu machen?\n\nSpeaker 1: Also ich will die Entscheidung jetzt gar nicht infrage stellen. Ich hab da mit Tobi auch drüber gequatscht. Tobi ist also unser Chef hier bei Devboost und der ist auch mit in der Planung mit drin und ich hab ihn noch mal gefragt, so was die die Intention dahinter ist. Und das ist auch so das hab ich eben vergessen zu sagen, die Intention, von der die kommt halt jetzt so bitte die, ja, sag doch mal, die Champions League nach Dresden holen, weil Du hast hier halt kein Google sitzen, Du hast kein Facebook hier sitzen, das ist alles in Berlin und Du wisst aber diese ganzen ihr lacht über den Silicon Sectioneer, die wollen halt auch diese Leute, diese coolen Techfirmen irgendwie nach Dresden holen. Und deswegen wollen sie's halt sich offenlassen, dass und wollen das halt auf Englisch komplett durchziehen, damit Du halt wirklich auch die englischen Speaker bekommen kannst, ne, dass die Leute halt Und das ist dass die Intention die, ob das die richtige Entscheidung ist, das möcht ich an der Stelle überhaupt nicht bewerten, aber ich versteh die versteh den den den Anspruch dahinter.\n\nAlso und das ist ja für mich auch interessant. Ich glaub, dass die Leute, dass coole coole Talks kommen. Also ich weiß, dass irgendwie der Lovable, irgendjemand da von denen zum Beispiel im Gespräch war und so und die kriegst Du wahrscheinlich dann, ich weiß nicht, ob da wie eure Erfahrung da ist, aber ich weiß nicht, ob man da die dann bekommt, wenn man nur deutsches Publikum anspricht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ja, ist eine gute Frage.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich mein, bei uns haben wir uns halt explizit dazu entschieden, es dann auf Deutsch zu machen, weil wir sonst gedacht haben, okay, sonst muss das ganze Setting außen rum halt auch auf Englisch sein. Das heißt, man könnte schon\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, kurzzeitig hatten wir aber trotzdem Englisch überlegt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ja, genau. Ich mein nur in den Überlegungen, also wie's zu den Entscheidungen gekommen ist. Ja. Weil wir dann gedacht haben, okay, dann dann also wenn wäre unser Anspruch, es komplett Englisch durchzuziehen, ne? Also von Beschilderung über, ne, auch wie wir reden, so das dann halt wirklich auf Englisch zu machen, damit's halt irgendwie sich dann dann darunter fühlt.\n\nUnd dann haben wir halt irgendwann gesagt, na ja, also was ist irgend eine Wo ist Englisch eine Hürde? Wir sprechen alle Englisch als Entwickler*innen. Ja. Das ist jetzt nicht so das Ding. Ja.\n\nAber natürlich ist es trotzdem Diese Natürlichkeit fällt halt manchen dann einfach schwerer. Und deswegen haben wir bei uns gesagt, na gut, wir machen die Konferenz per se auf Deutsch. Haben wir bei uns gesagt, na gut, wir machen die Konferenz per se auf Deutsch, sind aber offen für englische Talks, weil ich glaube, einen englischen Talk zu folgen, das ist jetzt nicht so die Hürde für die meisten und ja, haben dadurch vielleicht nicht mehr die gleiche Einschränkung. Und ob jetzt der Natürlich ist das anderen auch 'n Thema, haben wir auch drüber gesprochen, ne? Wenn der Gast dann hier ist und sich auch gerne noch 'n bisschen integrieren würde und jetzt nicht nur irgendwie da ist, dann ist das son kleiner Bruch.\n\nAber ja, deswegen sind wir für uns auf Deutsch gegangen Und ich fand es nur, also ich hab, wie gesagt, da halt wenig Englisch abseits der Bühne mitbekommen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Also gar kein Englisch.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich auch gar nicht. Also ich bin da auch\n\nSpeaker 0: Und deswegen halt son bisschen die Frage, okay, ist ist das richtig?\n\nSpeaker 2: Weil ich fand das, weil ich war auch interessant, was Du gerade gesagt hast, Philipp, so diese bisschen so wie son Klassentreffen, dass es diesen Aspekt hat. Und das war ja uns ja auch wichtig, ne, weil wir gesagt haben, hey, wir also wir machen die Programmier Con, wir sind die Programmierbar, alle kennen uns, weil wir einen deutschen Podcast machen, so. Und das wär 'n starker Bruch, wenn wir halt jetzt sagen, okay, ist auf Englisch, weil unsere Community eigentlich ja zu 100 Prozent Deutsch ist, hätten wir jetzt gesagt, so. Und das ist natürlich dann auch irgendwie diese dieses Klassentreffen oder dieses Intimitätsfeeling, weil man dann 'n bisschen diese Natürlichkeit noch mal drin hat, irgendwie stärker hervorhebt, was bei uns sehr gut funktioniert hat und aber würde ich auch sagen, auch auf der Dekompile sehr gut funktioniert hat. Ja.\n\nJa. Deswegen also ja, macht da glaube ich dann auch noch mal ein bisschen den Unterschied.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Ja, das ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und am Ende kann man vielleicht auch wieder, keine Ahnung, vielleicht hab ich's auch grade zu sehr auf uns bezogen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Weißt\n\nSpeaker 0: Du, also uns wär's leichter jetzt gefallen, das ganze Ding auf Deutsch zu machen. Ja. So, in dem Podcast Setting vor allen Dingen. Auf jeden Fall mehr als in im Talksetting. Ja.\n\nHabt ihr gefragt, ob ihr\n\nSpeaker 1: das machen könnt? Also haben die auch klar gesagt, Englisch bitte oder?\n\nSpeaker 0: Also mit Tobi meine ich im Vorfeld haben wir es mal andiskutiert und haben gesagt, ne, eigentlich ist es ja bei uns Deutsch und da war dann die die Ansage, dass halt das ganze Programm auf Englisch ist. Vor Ort lustigerweise, Johannes hatte dann auch noch mal kurz vorher gefragt, sag mal, macht ne? Macht ihr jetzt eigentlich auf Deutsch\n\nSpeaker 1: oder auf\n\nSpeaker 2: auf Englisch?\n\nSpeaker 0: Und dann sagten wir so, wir haben, glaube ich, die Ansage, das auf Englisch zu machen. Ja, okay. Also, aber da da Ja, aber da da\n\nSpeaker 2: Jetzt machen wir sie's auf Deutsch, by the way. Gesprochen. Da war's\n\nSpeaker 0: doch nicht mehr so da war's doch nicht mehr so 100 Prozent klar und sicher. Nee, aber genau.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, aber ich versteh das Also ich glaub, die diskutieren da im Hintergrund auch, ob das die richtige Entscheidung ist und so. Ich also\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ich hab auch schon zu Tobi, also vielleicht noch mal ganz kurz, Dev Bus sollten wir vielleicht auch noch mal erwähnen. Das ist ja auch son bisschen netterweise, also über Tobi, der uns sehr eingeladen hat als programmierbar. Philipp, das müssen wir vielleicht auch noch mal ganz kurz ausholen. Wenn Du schon gerade mal hier im Podcast bist, auch wenn wir mal 'n bisschen abschweifen, aber Du hast ja Du warst ja aktiv mit und hast Entwicklerheld. Ich bin immer unsicher, ob's das noch gibt, ob ihr das noch Ihr macht's nicht aktiver.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja, doch,\n\nSpeaker 0: das gibt's auch noch. Ja. Genau, also Entwicklerheld eine Plattform. Pitch Du mal schnell?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, pass auf. Also Entwickler ist eine Plattform, da kann man als Firma Coding Challenges auch draufpacken und kann quasi seinen Entwickleralltag son bisschen darstellen. Also man, ihr benutzt jetzt ganz viel, wie heißt's, Flatter, dann könntet ihr sone Flatterchallenge machen. Wie sieht denn son und son kleinen Schnipsel, sone kleine Codingaufgabe, zu zeigen, was mache ich denn eigentlich dann bei Lotum? Weil das Lotum zum Beispiel dasteht und keiner weiß, was ihr für eine Technologie benutzt, außer ich vielleicht.\n\nGenau und dann halt irgendwie so, das war unsere Intention so von Entwicklern, einfach einen Einblick zu geben ins technische Setup. Das ist natürlich heutzutage heutzutage mit Coding Challenges ist alles schwierig, aber Aber das war die Intention Ach, kurze Frage.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das heißt also bisschen wie also also, weil Du gesagt hast, Coding Challenge, also wie Lead Code, nur halt explizit für das Unternehmen, so was 'n\n\nSpeaker 1: Genau, wir wollten eher so Company Branding haben. Also wir haben uns immer, weißt Du, wir haben uns da im Studium gefragt, was ich kann jetzt überall anfangen, aber was machen die denn eigentlich da? Was was programmier ich da? Wie sieht das aus? Und sonst hab ich mich auch im Studium auch immer gefragt, was mach ich denn da als Entwickler?\n\nWas wie sieht denn sone typische Codingaufgabe aus? Ja. Und das war so die Idee am Anfang, die ist sogar gestartet mit, was heutzutage vielleicht sogar geht, Outsourcing. Also wir haben gesagt, alle Firmen entwickeln testgetrieben, ja. Wir lagern einfach die Tests auf die Plattform und das Entwickeln können ja dann auch Studenten oder alle machen und dann sind wir fertig.\n\nDas hat gar nicht funktioniert. Dann kam der Investor, hat gesagt, hier, also Leute, Outsourcing, das sehe ich nicht, aber ich sehe irgendwie HR, also Einstellungen sehe ich,\n\nSpeaker 0: ne. Ah cool.\n\nSpeaker 1: Recruiting Recruiting Plattform war's dann.\n\nSpeaker 0: Genau, Entwicklerheld zusammen mit mit Ilja Bauer. Bauer ist der Nachname, glaube ich, ja. Richtig. Genau und ihr beiden seid aber jetzt seit ein, 2, 3, wie viel Jahren seid ihr 2?\n\nSpeaker 1: Seit 24, Anfang 24 bei der Ach\n\nSpeaker 2: so, ich sag 24 Jahre. Also ich kann's vielleicht nicht nass.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich ich kann ja ganz kurz die Geschichte dazu erzählen. Ja. Es sind nicht nur Illla Bauer, sondern erzähl mal so bitte die Geschichte, meine Geschichte. Wir haben im Studium uns kennengelernt, haben zusammen irgendwie alle Informatik oder Medieninformatik studiert und dann haben wir in unserer Freizeit, es ging los in der Snooker Halle, haben wir so Dienstleistungen gemacht, da haben wir Seminar Abplanungssoftware für den Paritätischen Landesverband gebaut. Das haben alles Felix und ihr ja gemacht.\n\nIch bin einfach nur dazugestoßen und hab immer gedacht, Mensch, die die die machen wir mal so viel und ich will das unbedingt auch können und die haben mich immer total gepusht und ich wollte unbedingt genauso gut werden wie die. Hab mich dann mit immer in diesen Stucker Club gesetzt, das hatten wir hinten irgendwo, der hat zwar son riesengroßer Stucker Tisch und dann waren noch so quasi Bürotische und dann saßen wir zusammen, haben gecodeet und haben diese Dienstleistungsprojekte gemacht. Und dann haben wir irgendwann gedacht, ah, dann ist irgendwie ein Projekt weggefallen. Das ist ja, das muss ja anderen Unternehmen genauso gehen. Dann haben wir halt über diese Outsourcing Plattform gedacht nachgedacht, weil man immer so Peaks und so was hat.\n\nDann haben wir in unserem Abschlussarbeiten dazu geschrieben und dann haben wir das ausgegründet, haben 'n Investment eingesammelt, haben's umbenannt auf Entwickler hält und dann Wir waren 5 Gründer, also das war eher Bauer, ich, Felix, Daniel und Jakob. Mhm. Und genau, die Geschichte erzählt ja auch der immer in seinem Pitch. Ich bin bei der ProgrammierCon hat der auch ja kurz angeteast. Und was da vielleicht noch als Überleitung, wenn wir wieder zurückwollen zur zur Konferenz, der DeCompighter hat er den Vortrag auch gehalten und dann geht man danach in den Product Track.\n\nUnd im Product Track hat der Mirko Seifert, der ist auch der CEO von Dev Boost, in den Vortrag gehalten, die bauen auch grad 'n Produkt und er hat gesagt, er hat 'n Vortrag gehalten, der war total cool, total emotional, hat gesagt, 10 Gründe, warum man kein Unternehmen gründen sollte. Und es waren wirklich alle 10, also zum Beispiel, man verliert seine Freunde, ist bei mir passiert, man verliert man verliert Lebenszeit, 5 Jahre ist immer so irgendwie die Marke. Und das hat alles so, das war total emotionaler Ritt für mich, diese die Compyte, weil Du hast erst diesen Vortrag gehabt. Ihr habt vielleicht dieses große Bild im Kopf, wo dieses gebrochene Entwicklerheldschild daliegt und dann kommt im nächsten Talk im nächsten Raum halt wieder son Metavortrag über, warum man das auch nicht machen sollte. Und es hat mich aber wiederholt, ich werd eigentlich drüber nachdenken, oh, ich\n\nSpeaker 3: würd gern wieder was gründen. Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Das sogenannte gute Überleitung dazu.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und stellen wir, wenn man noch auf Death Boost jetzt noch zu Ende, früher wieder switchen möchte, also Death Boost ist ja 1 der großen Sponsorens irgendwie quasi unsere Hausmesse Hausmesse auch. Soll jetzt auch keine Werbung sein, ne? Ich bin da überhaupt nicht in der Planung involviert. Ich, Deathfuß hab ich damals auch schon immer gesehen, als wir bei der Decompite 20 18 da waren. Da waren wir ja noch gar nicht, haben dort nicht gearbeitet, aber die waren immer präsent.\n\nUnd Devbooooth unterstützt Produktteams dabei, quasi die größten Probleme ausm Weg zu räumen, ja. Ich weiß, Dennis, Du bist dann zum Beispiel auch mal in dem Round Table damit eingeladen und so, aber dann treffen sich die Leute und man kennt ja diese typischen Probleme. Es drückt irgendwo immer in der Software Firma, drückt's irgendwo und meine Intention war dann dieser Wechsel, als als Entwickler halt zu Ende war, für mich ist es komplett abgeschlossen, hab ich gesagt, okay, ich will das irgendwie schaffen. Ich hab ganz viele Probleme selber auch gemacht, Fehler gemacht. Immer, waren alle Techverliebt, haben Microservices gebaut bis zum Getten, haben diese Plattform hochskalierbar, wie viele Diskussionen, sinnlose Diskussionen wir da geführt haben, wie wie die nie eingetreten sind, weil wir hatten irgendwie 38000 Entwickler.\n\nWahrscheinlich hätte man einfach einen Service haben können und das hätte auch funktioniert. Aber wir haben da irgendwie Microservices zelebriert, haben so viel Zeit da verloren und haben dann halt überhaupt nicht überlegt, was der Impact ist und haben genau, das war der Fehler bei Entwicklerheld und das probier ich bei Devboost bei Firmen mit reinzubringen. Also genau, ich geh in diese Firmen rein und sag, Leute, diskutiert nicht immer über den Tech, macht geht denkt über den Impact nach, denkt, warum ihr das macht, welches Problem ihr damit lösen wollt. Und dann sind wir wieder bei der Diskussion, Dennis mal, ist das da Das ist doch auch vollkommen egal, welches Framework wie, Hauptsache, Du löst erst mal das Problem und dann können wir uns darum immer noch kümmern, wie dass wir's skalieren können, ja. Das machen wir bei Devboost.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 1: Kurze Pitch.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 1: Darf ich sehr viel geredet? Es tut mir leid.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nee, alles bestens, genau. Und hab ich eben schon Danke an Tobi gesagt? Ich nicht. Was ist denn sehr stillder. Vielen Dank, dass wir ja auch eingeladen wurden.\n\nAch ja genau, da kamen wir her. Und mit Entwicklerheld haben wir damals, glaube ich Also ihr mochtet auch damals schon die programmierbar und dann haben wir immer miteinander gesprochen und hab damals überlegt, ob man irgendwas zusammen machen könnte. Und so ist irgendwo die gewesen Connection zwischen Entwicklerheld, programmierbar, Devboost Die Compilte. Jetzt halt auch die Compilte. Ja, wo das son\n\nSpeaker 1: Emotionale Geschichte auch gibt.\n\nSpeaker 3: Noch mal,\n\nSpeaker 1: wenn wir wenn wir emotional noch erzählen wollen, Dave, ich weiß nicht, ob Du die Geschichte kennst, aber war so die letzten Also wir hatten dann, glaub ich, mit Jan und mit dir, Dennis gequatscht und überlegt so, was wir machen können, aber da war schon totaler Mayday bei uns so. Wir hatten, das waren schon irgendwie der Überlegen, wie wo bewerben wir uns, was machen wir und waren irgendwie alle fertig. Die einen wollten weitermachen, die anderen nicht. Und dann war ich irgendwie so verzweifelt. Dann hab ich euer Lotum Video gesehen, jetzt mal bisschen Werbung für Lotum.\n\nDas war so cool. Also ich fand das Video so cool. Das hat sich so angefühlt wie Freunde haben irgendwie was Großes aufgebaut. Ich bin da total beeindruckt, was ihr da gemacht habt. Und hab dann gedacht, boah geil, also wenn ich irgendwie noch mal irgendwie jetzt dann nichts Eigenes mache, dann würde ich gerne in soner Truppe arbeiten.\n\nUnd dann hab ich dem Dennis eine ganz emotionale Nachricht bei LinkedIn geschrieben, einfach weil ich ich war irgendwie in dieser Mut. Und Dennis hat mir dann geantwortet, ja, also Du kannst gerne mal vorbeikommen und dann können wir gucken, ob Du ob Du ob's passt oder nicht. Und das fand ich total Also das hat mir total mich in dieser schweren Phase richtig cool abgeholt und Dennis, das war total lieb von dir. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, und wärst Du nicht so in Dresden gebunden, hättest Du einfach wieder was werden können.\n\nSpeaker 2: Richtig. Was was für eine Historie. Das war irgendwie aber auch grade insgesamt sone Aneinanderreihung von sehr guten Ereignissen. Ja. Das ist irgendwie schön.\n\nAlso für mich, das macht alles zusammen. Zeit. Also die\n\nSpeaker 1: die Decomfia hat mich begleitet, die Programmierbar hat mich begleitet und und jetzt kommen\n\nSpeaker 2: deine 2 Bessies zusammen. Oh mein Gott,\n\nSpeaker 1: Und jetzt\n\nSpeaker 2: bin ich einfach hier und jetzt und Du bist hier.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich hör ich hör euch immer den ganzen Tag ab irgendwie,\n\nSpeaker 3: das das\n\nSpeaker 1: ist aber total, muss für euch total strange sein, weil ich hab immer das Gefühl, ich red mit Leuten, die kenn ich alle. Ja. Und Das war wirklich jeder,\n\nSpeaker 2: das hab ich Stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das habe\n\nSpeaker 0: ich zu dir, glaub ich, gesagt, David. Das war so verrückt, weil als wir auf der Konferenz kurz gesprochen haben, hast Du häufiger Philipp so gesagt, na ja, Dennis, Du würdest ja denken, dass. Und das ist dann so abgefahren, ne, dass Du eigentlich schon so\n\nSpeaker 3: mich Der\n\nSpeaker 1: Juno denn.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nennt durch durch durch den Podcast, dass Du eigentlich auch für mich antworten kannst in den Situationen. Das war war auch spannend zu erwarten, aber mega cool, ja. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 3: Und Du\n\nSpeaker 2: hast mich ja mit dem Geräusch der Woche begrüßt von daher. Ja, das ist schon Ja, da ist ja das ist schon nicht schlecht. Ja. Ah, ist schön.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich hoffe, die Horror*innen können dem genauso viel abgewinnen wie wir grade in dieser Runde, aber ich Es ist eine schöne Woche. Also also sind ja\n\nSpeaker 1: alles Fans. Also ich spreche im Namen der Fans, der macht das richtig cool. Ich find das Ich liebe das, dass ihr da so was macht. Ich find das total cool.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, geil. Aber ich muss sagen, dadurch Also vielleicht auch diesen Klassentreffenaspekt, ich fand das sehr schön, wie Du's gesagt hast. Und aber ich muss sagen, also obwohl ich nie zu dieser Klasse gehört habe, Du warst ja letztes Jahr auf der Decompeldiness. Ja. Ich dieses Jahr zum ersten Mal und ich hab mich aber auch so bisschen gefühlt, als wär's meine Klasse so.\n\nIch glaub, wir hatten natürlich den Vorteil irgendwie so, ja okay, die Jungs von der Bühne so programmierbar wurde irgendwie so angekündigt so, aber dadurch kamen Leute von uns zu und haben mit uns geredet so irgendwie und dann Das stimmt. Einfach so, also ich würd sagen, wir sind 2 Personen, die gerne in Kontakt treten mit anderen und nicht so problematisch.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und das\n\nSpeaker 2: war dann halt irgendwie sehr entspannt, dass Leute auf uns einfach zugekommen sind. Ja. Und deshalb irgendwie so, ach wie cool, wie nett und von jedem sehr herzlich willkommen geheißen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist krass, das stimmt. Das fand's vor der Atmosphäre auch superschön und ich würde auch sagen irgendwie gefühlt kannten wir am Ende so die Hälfte der 4 Leute, die da waren. Das finde ich ein bisschen übertrieben. Ja, aber\n\nSpeaker 2: ein Drittel ist es ein Drittel.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, es ist schon, dass man schon einige Kontaktpunkte hatte, was auch dazu geführt hat. Philipp haben wir ja kurz danach geschrieben, dass wir beispielsweise nicht so viel Zeit hatten, irgendwie mit dann zu reden, weil's weil's verschiedenste Konstellationen gab. Aber nee, es war super Also so aus Organisatorensicht oder beziehungsweise als teilnehmenden Sicht sozusagen, war's superangenehm. Die Orga war perfekt. Die E-Mails Ja.\n\nWaren von der Kommunikation super, super on point. Cool. Es hat alles funktioniert vor Ort. Alle, egal aus dem Team, waren super-, superherzlich und ja. Bis auf Oh, jetzt kommt's.\n\nAchtung. Oh, kommt jetzt Hate? Ja. Oh, jetzt kommt Hate und zwar Boah, ist leid. Eigentlich also gleiches Problem wie der Broker VimediaCon auch.\n\nDu hast darunter am meisten gelitten eigentlich, mein mein Lieber.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich hab am meisten gelitten. Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 1: Essen, Essen, jetzt kommt Essen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Oh, ich\n\nSpeaker 1: bin Oh, da habt\n\nSpeaker 2: ihr auch eine Geschichte zu. Oh nein, aber stimmt, stimmt, stimmt. Ja, das war sehr anlucky, weil wir hatten ja den Mittagslot, so mussten halt aber natürlich frühzeitig da sein. Aber die Mittagsstange war so lange, hab ich gesagt, ja okay, nee, dann gehen wir jetzt direkt auf die Bühne, bereiten alles vor, haben kein Mittagessen bekommen, das ist ein bisschen so und Das ist scheiße. Genau und dann gab's ja auch noch Abendessen und ich weiß gar nicht, warum wir das verpasst haben.\n\nDie wurden angequatscht. Ah, wir wurden angequatscht. Ach, stimmt, ja und dann haben wir uns verquatscht. Ja, doch, aber das passt wieder zu uns. Wir haben uns verquatscht und dann\n\nSpeaker 0: so aus. Da war sogar das Abendessendeck.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Ja. Und das war krass so. Ja. Und Ja, hab ich weiß nicht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Da gibt's auch eine Geschichte dazu. Also bei De Compite, das ist auch Also ich fand das Essen erst mal übelst cool, also ist richtig gut.\n\nSpeaker 2: Was gab's denn? Schmeckt, wenn\n\nSpeaker 1: man das gekriegt hat, wenn man was gekriegt hat, ja? Hähnchen, was auch immer. Es gab auch irgendwie einen Veganer, 'n Kumpel von mir, der hab ich gefragt, aber er was gefunden hat, der hat auch was gefunden. Und ich hatte das Glück, ich hab mich auch verquatscht. Und ich hab aber gesehen, der der Felix hatte irgendwie so was zu Essen in der Hand bei uns am Stand.\n\nUnd ich sag, hä, weißte Den glaub.\n\nSpeaker 3: Es ist\n\nSpeaker 1: doch erst. Essen gibt's doch erst wieder so später. Und die hat gesagt, nee, nee, die haben das schon geöffnet und die hatten das schon leicht geöffnet, schon eine halbe Stunde vorher. Und ich hatte quasi freie Fahrt. Das hat sich richtig schlecht angefühlt, aber das war, also es war schon eröffnet, eine halbe Stunde, glaub ich, bevor es losging.\n\nJa. Und dann standen saßen schon die ersten Leute und haben gegessen, deswegen war's für mich total super, weil ich kannte das von den allen Jahren davor. Es war ist immer ein Problem, aber auf jeder Messe, das\n\nSpeaker 3: war bei\n\nSpeaker 1: euch, glaub ich, ähnlich, war's auch, wenn man zu spät gekommen ist, dann war das total anstrengend, weil immer diese Schlange sich bildet. Und ich glaube, sie haben's probiert, besser zu machen, weil letztes Jahr war's, glaub ich, so, dass da jemand dastand und das Essen drauf geschippt hat. Mhm. Und diesmal war's ja auch so, dass man selber nehmen kann. Und ich hab mich selber gefragt, warum die Schlange schon wieder so ewig lang ist, weil da die die das war ja auch relativ lang aufgebaut.\n\nSo und das war glaub ich das gleiche Essen, das waren vielleicht Leuten nicht klar, das gleiche Essen gab's links und rechts und man hätte von mehreren Seiten kommen können. Ich weiß nicht, ob das vielleicht 'n Problem war.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, die Menschen sind, da da sind auch die Menschen ein Problem. Die müssten auch direkt so irgendwie benotet werden, wie sie sich im Buffet Du bist auch übrigens schlechter Buffet, Dave.\n\nSpeaker 2: Wirklich? Ja. Wieso? Weil Du so\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein, weil Du so viel laberst, also hier zumindest.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ah, stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Weiß ich mir, so was sagen. Ah, ja, ja, ja. Ich meine, dann drehst Du dich noch mal und so, nein, nimm dir jetzt das Essen. Du musst jetzt grad deine Geschichte nicht fertig erzählen. Nimm das Essen und geh weiter.\n\nUnd das ist einfach, man müsste sone Buffetetikette mal einfach einbrechen. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 3: Da wird\n\nSpeaker 0: die Leute irgendwie wissen, wie man sich ein Buffet benimmt und zwar einfach maximal effizient sich das Zeug zu nehmen und dann abzudampfen und nicht noch grad eine Geschichte zu erzählen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, okay, aber ich sag mal, ich glaub, weil ich hier so sind so 20, 30 Leute so und dann hab ich mir so, ja, da kann man mal kurz warten so.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein.\n\nSpeaker 2: Bei bei jetzt irgendwie so 150, da hätte ich, glaub ich, 'n anderen Maßstab, aber okay, ich versteh das.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber ihr als Stargäste, ihr hättet doch wahrscheinlich auch Fast Lane oder sowas bekommen können, oder? Also habt ihr Oh,\n\nSpeaker 2: das ist so schön, so herzlich so genannt zu werden.\n\nSpeaker 0: Außer ja, wir haben, das würden wir natürlich nicht, da würden wir natürlich nicht nachfragen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, genau. Er würde aber\n\nSpeaker 1: wenn ihr 13 Uhr, ich wenn ihr 13 Uhr, weißt Du, dann habt ihr in Stunden, ihr 13 Uhr ging's los, ne? 13, 13 Uhr.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, genau. Ja,\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich hätte bestimmt jemand was euch vor gelassen oder so, also das wär jetzt kein Problem.\n\nSpeaker 0: Gräfer Reserven, ist kein Problem. Das stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Und hier wär noch was\n\nSpeaker 1: Ihr Schade, dass keiner von keiner von der Dekompheide gekommen ist und euch da gesagt hat, hey kommt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein, nein, alles alles easy.\n\nSpeaker 1: Macht das.\n\nSpeaker 0: Alles easy.\n\nSpeaker 2: Du hast sogar\n\nSpeaker 0: noch 'n Müslée wohl bekommen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Genau. Von 1 sehr netten Person. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das war lieb. Ja. Judi, so. Was war dein Talk Highlight oder war das der Talk mit den der Emotionale?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, Du hattest das auch für eine Geschichte. Du hattest mich ja angeschrieben und gesagt, hey, wir hatten gar nicht so viel Zeit. Also ihr beide hattet nicht so viel Zeit, die Talks zu so sehen. Dadurch, dass es Klassentreffen war, war ich auch nicht bei so vielen Talks und mir mitbekommen hab, dass mein Fokus irgendwie Community, Klassentreffen mit allen Quatschen. Ich hab auch nicht so viele gesehen und wenn ich zu Vorträgen gegangen bin, dann meistens, die will ich jetzt nicht hochjubeln, aber sind meistens von meinen Kollegen gewesen.\n\nAlso es gab den Vortrag, Strangler fick Pattern. Das ich find's immer spannend, wenn Talks so über echte Projekte, wo was erzählt wird. Und da ging's halt diese bei Stuffbase, das ist ja auch 'n großer Player in in in Sachsen oder auch sogar an der Welt, Unicorn, ging darum, wie wir wir dort mit den Strangerific Pattern, wie sie das Frontend neu bauen und so. Das war 'n cooler cooler Talk, weil das halt zusammen mit mit quasi mit Dev Boost, ich will jetzt nicht jede Werbung mit Dev Boost, aber ich fand's cool, dass man aus dem Projekt heraus Sachen erzählt hat, was man gemeinsam geschafft hat und gemacht hat und dieses Knowledge gesharht hat. Und an sich halt, ich fand die Keynote wieder überragend.\n\nIch fand das cool, dass es irgendwie gleich so richtig diesen Drive gegeben für die ganze Konferenz. Alle haben dann gesagt, boah krass, so flieht. Das hab ich auch noch nicht selber gemacht, ne. Ich hab wir haben ja kurz dadrüber gequatscht, der der Jolo Dennis. Ich kam so rein, ich kenn diese Welt als Devboost Du, ich komm diese kenn diese Welt von den großen Firmen.\n\nIch will jetzt nicht zu viele Insights geben, aber ich bin jetzt in Dresden halt bei so Firmen, da sind so 40, fuffzig Entwickler zusammen und die die kriegen jetzt AI in die Hand und können das irgendwie, also und das geht trotzdem nicht krass voran so. Also die denken sich immer, der der Chef denkt sich, hey, ich hab dir doch jetzt AI gegeben, warum geht's dir nicht los? Und da dann hab ich genau mit diesen mit diesen Problemen im Kopf bin ich dann zum Jolo Dennis gekommen und zum, das war Philipp Kemminsonner, der mir da stand. Ja, ja. Weil ich ich hab nämlich vorher gesagt, ich kenn den über Entwicklerheld.\n\nOh, ich hab den noch nie in Person gesehen und das war total unangenehm, weil ich hab gesagt, Du hast ihm gesagt, hey, Philipp, da hab ich den einfach sein Namensschild ja genommen, hab gesagt, ob er richtig geschrieben wird, weil Philipp schreibt man nur mit einem l Doppel p. Und das war mir total unggierig. Ich hab gesagt, oh Gott, das ist ja der Philipp Chemeter. Das ist ja hier auf\n\nSpeaker 3: die\n\nSpeaker 1: C24 Bank, oh Gott. Ich hab den einfach so angequatscht. Und ihr beide habt dann so im Yolomodus gesagt, ja, nee, das wird alles automatisiert und also nicht. Hab einmal die KUT Projekte gedacht, hab gedacht, ja, das wär schön, aber in eurer Welt da oben, da sind alle schon halbt, aber da das in die in die breite Masse der Entwickler zu bringen, ist total schwierig. Und ich glaub, das ist son Teil, was die Messe auch geschafft hat bei vielen Leuten, so mit denen ich geredet hab.\n\nDie haben gesagt, ja, ey, doch, ich glaub da dran und so, dass die das einschwören, dass die langsam merken, man braucht das und man man man nicht nur drüber nachdenken, was dass man schneller jetzt bauen kann, sondern warum man das baut. Und das fand ich cool an den Vorträgen und das kam überall immer dieses Impact, Why und das kam dadurch, dass halt Produkt und Tech zusammengeführt wird. Und das find ich fand ich total, das ist, da will ich jetzt gar keinen einzelnen Vortrag herausheben, aber ich fand das cool, das kam immer wieder. Und wenn Du mit den Leuten gequatscht hast, haben die dann die ganze Zeit genauso zum Beispiel über diese Keynote geredet, dass man, ja, mit dieser Fleet, vielleicht brauch ich doch noch mal. Da hab dann bin dann in Gespräche abgetaucht, haben die haben Leute 'n großen Rebild von ihrer Software gemacht, die standen da und haben gesagt, nee, warte mal, also den Rebild, das macht überhaupt keinen Sinn.\n\nWir müssen da noch, das müssen wir noch viel weitertreiben, damit die AI das einfach alles machen kann. Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 3: Und dass\n\nSpeaker 1: das die Leute so zu dem Denken angestoßen hat, das fand ich total cool.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Nee, ist richtig und das auch, ja, find ich auch wichtig. Und auch krass zu sehen, das war auch, Du meintest ja eben, ich war netterweise da am Abend vorher auf so 'nem Jack Lead Round Table eingeladen und auch da krass zu sehen, wie unterschiedlich weit irgendwie so die Unternehmen sind. Und das 'n bisschen zu konsolidieren und da alle auf den gleichen Stand zu überbringen. Es ist da hilft hilft solche Austausch auf jeden Fall und auch auch 'n bisschen dann immer, ne, so die Realität dann auch wieder zu sehen.\n\nIch mein, weil LinkedIn ist bei mir zumindest so komplett auf 100 x pro Fach Produktivität und nicht mal alles selbst und bin aber Das ist auch eine sehr eingeschränkte, glaube ich, Sicht auf so dann die die gesamte Wirtschaft oder das, was wir da machen. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber ich find's gut, dass Du die Meinung vertrittst, Dennis. Also ich seh das genauso, dass Also Du bist ja dann quasi immer dieser der der krasse Pole, der sagt, alles automatisieren. Jolo ist mir all egal, los geht's. Das find ich total cool. Ich bin auch son Typ und dann gibt's aber immer noch die anderen Parteien, die sagen, ah, Vorsicht, machen wir langsam.\n\nUnd ich glaub irgendwo in der Mitte, wenn wir uns da finden, da ist die Wahrheit.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, absolut. Aber es war cool, weil ich\n\nSpeaker 1: bin dann in dieses Gespräch gekommen mit euch und Dave Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: War natürlich\n\nSpeaker 1: auch mit dabei, ne. Aber ich hab dann irgendwie den Jolo Dennis grad im Kopf gehabt und den den Philipp Caneter, der ist scheinbar bei C24 auch. Alles komplett AI, die sind da vollkommen vorne mit dran. Ja. Haben alles überholt da in ihrer in der in der Check24 Bubble, alle Techteams.\n\nUnd dann sind stehen die beiden da. Also das sind halt die von den Leuten lernen bei der D-Kompilete und das ist doch schon dann was wert.\n\nSpeaker 2: Jolo, Dennis, das mag ich irgendwie. Also weil sie so schon fünfmal gesagt wurde, aber ich also Entschuldigung, das ist eigentlich ganz gut. Passt\n\nSpeaker 0: ganz gut.\n\nSpeaker 2: Security Dave, die Yolo Dennis. Das finde ich irgendwie, also da wird's zwar eigentlich.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, dafür machst Du ein bisschen wenig Security so in deinem Ja, das stimmt. Also oder beziehungsweise hält die Fahne zu wenig Code dafür.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, stimmt. Dafür sind wir nicht wichtig genug. Ja. Kann auch sagen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Findest Du\n\nSpeaker 1: nicht bei euch irgendwie Security First?\n\nSpeaker 0: Hast Du da hast Du irgendwie auch son bisschen Ljolo an dir dann auch.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ich hab genau, ja doch, ja, ich hab wahrscheinlich mehr Yolo an mir als Security. Okay, ja. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Cool. Schön, schön. Okay.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also euch hat das gefallen bei De Compite.\n\nSpeaker 0: Uns hat das gefallen?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, absolut. Das war mir nämlich\n\nSpeaker 1: wichtig herauszufinden, weil wir haben ja nicht noch mal gequatscht. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Genau, also aus aus aus quasi Speaker Sicht, was wir ja son bisschen waren, sehr gute Betreuung und rundum wohl gefühlt so. Das war richtig krass. Also nichts Gedanken gemacht so, es wurd abgeklärt hier. Zudem sprichst Du, dann der der Tontechniker weiß Bescheid, zack wurden verkabelt und es war supersmoth, alles richtig butterweich, ist also megageil. Ja.\n\nDeswegen da wärmste Empfehlung. Du, Philipp, sagst auch aus Besuchersicht megageil.\n\nSpeaker 1: Da da wir haben gar nicht drüber gequatscht, das ist mir grad eingefallen, über Silent, wie heißt das Silent? Ich wollt\n\nSpeaker 0: grad sagen, genau. Also vielleicht noch mal ganz kurz das Konzept, das ist ja einen Tag nur in Anführungsstrichen die Konferenz. Genau, es gibt 4 Tracks, wobei 1 in 'nem separate Raum war und 3 sonst in 1 großen Halle Osradom.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ist das eigentlich 'n Zelt by the way? Ja. Ja, ne? Aber 'n dauerhaftes Zelt. Dauerhaftes Zelt, genau.\n\nJa, genau, weil es ist wirklich relativ dicht so irgendwie, aber trotzdem habe ich den Heli über mir gehört. Stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Na, der kam irgendwann mal während der Podcastaufnahme.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja,\n\nSpeaker 2: wegen der Aufnahme.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, genau und dann da hat's halt diesen Silent Disco Modus, das heißt, man hat Kopfhörer und kann dann auf den 3 Bühnen haben. Das hatten wir jetzt beim Podcast nicht. Ich stell's mir als Speaker super schwierig vor irgendwie.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, ich das wollte ich auch zur Diskussion stellen, Weil man so das würde\n\nSpeaker 0: ich auch interessieren. Weil man so halt in einen leeren Raum spricht und diese Reaktion nicht hört und man also also ja, man sich selbst nicht hört so und hören die einen jetzt. Also das glaube ich, ist eine große Herausforderung irgendwie für Speaker*innen, da das ausblenden zu können? Es ist quasi wie eine Podcastfolge, die man aufnimmt,\n\nSpeaker 2: so. Weil die sind ja\n\nSpeaker 0: von der Song, ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, genau. Die das doof ihren Kopfhörern hören, so. Stimmt. Du hast\n\nSpeaker 0: gar kein direktes Feedback, ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Als als als Zuhörer ist es aber total cool. Also ich weiß, ich denk auch immer an den Speaker, weil ich denk mir, ja, wenn Du zwischen dem Speed, also zwischen dem den Vortrag irgendwie wechselst, Du kannst dir die ganze Zeit wechseln, Du hast son Knopf an dem Dings und Du kannst dir den die Audiospur wechseln. Also Du könntest theoretisch dir dir einen Talk angucken, aber quasi einen anderen dir anhören. Das ist total für mich so als dieser, der sich irgendwie schwer konzentrieren kann, total cool gewesen, weil man kannte dann halt mal hin und herswert schon gemerkt hat, okay, man hat sich jetzt doch den falschen Talk ausgesucht, der ist nicht spannend.\n\nIst die Einstieg die Hürde? Also wenn ich jetzt bei euch zum Beispiel oben hochgegangen wär bei der Programmierkorn, dann hätte ich mich nicht mehr getraut, da rauszugehen, aber da war's dann so, ich bin immer in der Mitte so gelaufen von dem Zelt und hab dann immer so rumgeschalten. Auch so immer gesagt, okay, das war jetzt, den Vortrag fand ich jetzt nicht so, hat mich jetzt grad nicht abgeholt. Dann kannst Du einfach auch noch mal wechseln. Und das ist total cool, weil die Leute, da gibt's dann solche Geschichten, Du kannst den Kopfhörer auflassen, kannst den Talk weiterhören, aber auf Toilette gehen.\n\nAlso Du könntest ausgehen, auf Toilette, kannst weiterhören. Oder Du gehst halt noch Getränk dir holen, das ist auch total angenehm. Manchmal sitzt man ja irgendwo, denkt, ah, ich hab Durst. Dann lässt Du einfach den Kopfhörer auf, gehst raus, also gehst zu dem Getränkesachen zum Automaten, das ist überall verfügbar gewesen, auch total cool und dann gehst Du wieder zum Talk, aber ich denk mir halt immer für den Speaker, also es ist halt so manchmal, ich bin dann denk dir immer so, ah, wenn der Jetzt da sieht der jetzt da hin, dass der erinnert wieder weggeht und so. Ja.\n\nDas ist doch auch nicht höflich.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber ich muss sagen, also es ist wahrscheinlich ja aus 'ner Notwendigkeit heraus, ne, Du hast halt nur dieses eine Zelt so und möchtest halt verschiedene Bühnen haben, also damit dich die Akustik ja nicht in die Quere kommt, muss es machen. Ja. Und ich muss sagen, ich finde es auch sehr angenehm, weil es gibt ja auch andere Konferenzen, wo Du es einfach in der Halle hast und dann hast Du es ja über diese Lautsprecher einfach der gesamten Halle und teilweise ja so viel Tohuhuwhuhu nebenher, ne, weil da irgendwelche Leute sind, die dann da irgendwas ausstellen oder mit anderen Leuten reden, dann ist es schon wirklich wahnsinnig laut. Und dann noch irgendwie den Talk zu verfolgen, ist manchmal sehr schwierig. Und das fand ich halt super.\n\nDu hast dich Kopfhörer aufgesetzt, hast den Vortrag richtig verfolgen können und hält sich auch jeder, dass er wieder ausklingen können oder halt wechseln\n\nSpeaker 3: können und\n\nSpeaker 2: so was alles und Und Du ich fand das also auch eigentlich sehr, sehr cool, also weil ich dann das Gefühl hatte, ich konnte den Talks dadurch auf jeden Fall gut folgen, die zweite ich gehört hab.\n\nSpeaker 3: Aber Du\n\nSpeaker 1: hast nicht diesen Strudel, also Du da da vielleicht vielleicht liegt das nicht nur an den Seitendiskor, aber Du hast halt dieses große Zelt, wo die ganzen Vorträge sind drin sind. Du hast diesen einen Weg, der reinführt, der eine, der rausführt. Und wenn Du sonst auf anderen Konferenzen bist, also ich war jetzt da 'n Beispiel auf den Container Days oder so was, da da dann hast Du immer son Strudel, weil die Leute ja dann immer den Raum wechseln. Dann guckt die alle, oh Gott, welcher Raum, welcher Raum, welcher Raum, es ging mir auch immer so. Dann sitzt Du irgendwie im falschen Raum und ist dauert mal zurück.\n\nUnd das hast Du dann irgendwie gar nicht, weil Du bist in diesem Zelt. Du kannst einmal dich rumdrehen, quasi alle alle Sachen sehen und dann das find ich als Zuhörer total cool.\n\nSpeaker 0: Philipp hat das gerade perfekt gemacht, diese Atmosphäre in den Podcast zu bringen, indem er sich wirklich umgedreht hat und die Stimme so kurz 'n bisschen weggegangen ist. Ja, ja, ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das war\n\nSpeaker 0: nicht schlecht.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja, das\n\nSpeaker 0: ist gut. Cool. Ja, nee, ey, ich hatte auch mit, also weil das ist ja auch eine Überlegung bei uns gewesen mit der Programmiercon. Er hat auch mit Tobi kurz drüber gesprochen. Weil wenn man's noch größer machen wollen würde oder vor allen Dingen auch so internationaler und Du hast die Leute nach Dresden holen, ich glaube, dann sind 2 Tage ein ein Keyelement.\n\nWeil man halt für einen Tag immer sone Reise ist halt irgendwie son bisschen anders zu rechtfertigen, als wenn man dann wirklich 2 Tage Inhalt hat und Wunderbar. Deswegen, ich glaube, das wäre, wenn man wirklich noch das größer machen möchte, dass Leute kommen, wäre, glaube ich, das so der Key, das noch zu öffnen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Dann darf's auch auf Englisch bleiben.\n\nSpeaker 0: Dann darf's auch Also, ich meine, auch Deutschland ist ja dann erst mal noch 'n bisschen, ne? Ja, ja. Vielleicht noch mehr aus Deutschland, aber das darf generell auch auf Englisch bleiben, wenn das, ja, wenn das so gewünscht ist.\n\nSpeaker 2: Eine eine sehr diplomatische Antwort. Ja, ja. Gut.\n\nSpeaker 0: So, fällt Würdet\n\nSpeaker 1: ihr es denn Würdet ihr es denn den unserer Community empfehlen, da hinzukommen? Also das fällt mir halt immer Also ich kann ich Deswegen ich hab meine Jolopriillar an, also meine Jolo, aber\n\nSpeaker 2: meine Entschuldigung.\n\nSpeaker 1: Meine, ja, ihr habt ja jetzt meine Historie gehört. Da Ja. Die ComPides sind für mich Emotionen. Also ich bin in Dresden, ist also für mich ist das sowieso quasi Hausveranstaltung. Ja.\n\nAber lohnt sich's auch für für also quasi den Weg auf sich zu nehmen, so wie ihr's jetzt gemacht habt für Zuhörer halt, ne? Das ist die\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich würde sagen, ja. Also ich glaube, es war jetzt nicht nur unser Eindruck, dass wir da halt diese Rolle gespielt haben, sondern also was den Austausch und die Leute und die grundsätzliche Stimmung und sowas angeht. Das ist ja schon irgendwie ein großer Teil von den Konferenzen und den haben wir ja auch mitbekommen, wenn wir jetzt vielleicht ein, 2 Talks nicht gesehen haben. Und von daher, also ich glaube, gute Speaker*innen, die dort sind. True.\n\nIch glaube, eine Kritik, die auch wir immer wieder bekommen müssen, ist son bisschen natürlich das Wie divers ist son bisschen die das Vecatum, das da war, aber ich glaube, das ist ja eine Challenge, die wir da alle immer wieder spüren. Mhm. Und von daher, ich fand's cool.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und Community Aspekt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Also, weil\n\nSpeaker 2: das, also das will ich auch mal vorher hervorheben, was ich natürlich bei unserer Konferenz sehr cool fand, aber auch jetzt auch der D-Compide im Vergleich zu sehr großen Konferenzen, so wie also diese dieses persönliche einfachding. So kommst viel einfacher mit Leuten in Austausch. Ich hab die Speaker habe ich da so häufig dann auch noch gesehen und so, dass man direkt irgendwie da anknüpfen konnte und das ist auf 'ner großen Konferenz, wo mehrere 1000 Personen sind, dann oftmals schwieriger und das finde ich eigentlich also immer sehr charmant, wenn es also diese richtige Größe hat einfach und man da wirklich sehr einfach in Austausch kommen kann. Also fand also deswegen von dem Aspekt auch sehr cool.\n\nSpeaker 1: Abendveranstaltung war ja auch nicht schlecht, muss ich sagen. Also fand ich auch cool. Es war bei euch noch krasser, fand ich. Ihr habt das richtig durchgeplant gehabt. Ich hab euch die ganze Zeit beobachtet.\n\nIhr habt schön Bierpong gespielt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich hab, oh, ich muss sagen, ich hab richtig richtig hart abgezogen. Du wolltest dich jetzt grad selbst beobachten? Ja, wirklich, nein, weil ich\n\nSpeaker 3: hab, kommt immer gut an. Machen wir das machen wir aber. Weil ich glaube, ich hab ich\n\nSpeaker 0: hab glaube, ich hab ich\n\nSpeaker 2: hab also quasi 80 Prozent der Dinger getroffen, das war crazy.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also ich hab wirklich Das ist jetzt,\n\nSpeaker 0: das ist aber, manchmal, das ist ja ein ganz kurzer harter Hit gegen Philipp. Also nicht gegen Nicht\n\nSpeaker 1: den Philipp. Es gab\n\nSpeaker 2: auch viele Philips\n\nSpeaker 0: auf der Welt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das war harte, also auch eine Kritik an der Konferenz. Also irgendwie 80 Prozent hießen Philipp und die restlichen 20 Prozent hießen Martin oder so. Das war wirklich, das war so krass. Ich hab jedem mit Philipp angesprochen und ich lag eigentlich fast immer richtig. Das war krass.\n\nIch würd\n\nSpeaker 1: mich am Anfang irgendwie 'n Username ausdenken, oder? Also\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, bitte.\n\nSpeaker 0: Genau, aber Du hast mit Philipp Power gespielt und hast ihn grade degradiert.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, nein, nein. Dass er in\n\nSpeaker 0: deinem Team nicht viel beigebracht hat und trotzdem habt ihr das Team gewonnen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, nicht trotzdem. Also sein moralischer Boost war ja von sehr großem Stellenwert, sag ich ja auch immer so.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, stark.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nicht vergessen. Ach so, und?\n\nSpeaker 0: Aber es waren schlechte, wenn man das noch mal ganz kurz Kritik an der Stelle ist, waren schlechte Bierpongbälle. Ah,\n\nSpeaker 3: okay. Das\n\nSpeaker 2: stimmt, das stimmt. Man musste lernen, wie man damit wirft.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, aber waren son Treffen, Die waren so leicht, da kam son Windstoß, hat 1 gepupst nebenan und zack, ist der Ball.\n\nSpeaker 2: Du hast sehr viel gepupster in\n\nSpeaker 0: der Situation. Ist der Ball. Ich hab's versucht, taktisch einzusetzen. Hat's funktioniert.\n\nSpeaker 2: Dass nur sein eigenes Teamwelt probiert. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wobei, also, wenn dich daran auch noch eine kleine kritisches Ding, ein kritisch Ding bemerken darf. Ich fand nämlich, ich war inspiriert letztes Jahr von der Decompiled, denn es gab dann abends auch eine Bar, also ne, es gab auch Getränke, was fürs Networking megacool war.\n\nSpeaker 3: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und dann Das fand ich eigentlich 'n coolen Twist. Es gab dann Chips, die man sammeln konnte, Specialdrinks, also Longdrinks und hier Apolsprit und so was sich bestellen zu dürfen. Und dafür musste man diese Chips sammeln. Und letztes Jahr war das gefühlt super organisiert. Da gab's diese verschiedenen Stationen und dort stand dann immer 1 von Silicon Saxony und hat das son bisschen moderiert.\n\nUnd das war halt explizit, aktiv das Networking zu unterstützen und zu sagen, hey, ne, kommt her und wenn ihr jetzt eine Runde Bierpong gespielt habt, dann kriegt ihr alle 'n Chip oder wenn ihr Tischkrieger gespielt habt oder Blackjack und da gab's noch mehr Sachen letztes Jahr, glaub ich, auch als dieses Jahr. Und irgendwie war gefühlt das das gleiche Konzept dieses Jahres, war nur keiner an den Stationen. Und deswegen war das son bisschen weird. Warum? Genau und ich mein, wir hatten halt den den das Glück, dass wir 'n paar Leute kannten, Ach so stimmt.\n\nWie wir dann anpumpen konnten, mal son Chip zu bekommen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Auch\n\nSpeaker 1: ja. Geschichte für alle, Dennis kam auf einmal meine Schulter. Wir haben gar nicht gequatscht gehabt, den ganzen Arm und dann denk ich so, oh, gibt's 'n Chips? Wo wo krieg ich 'n noch Chips? Und der Ariana hat ja schon alles braun gesehen, gesagt, ah okay, da könnt ihr einen Kit, zack.\n\nSpeaker 0: Der auch keine\n\nSpeaker 1: hatte. Was?\n\nSpeaker 2: Er hat auch keine Ahnung.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nee, es weiß ich, ich brauch 'n paar Stationen, aber ich hab am Ende genug Abhol Spritz bekommen. Ich mag, ja,\n\nSpeaker 2: 'n bisschen zu viele. Dann hieß es dann hieß es auf einmal so, ach übrigens, Du fährst jetzt, Dave.\n\nSpeaker 3: Bin ich\n\nSpeaker 2: so, okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das war das war doch von vorne rein klar.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja? Wir haben's nicht abgesprochen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Genau, es war ja,\n\nSpeaker 2: es war im Prinzip.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, genau.\n\nSpeaker 3: Und ich\n\nSpeaker 2: war irgendwie cool, mit dem Auto zu fahren.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ich war\n\nSpeaker 2: so hoch, das war irgendwie schön. Das kann ich gar nicht, wenn ich\n\nSpeaker 3: immer so tief sitze, so tiefsitze, so tief sitze, so tief sitze,\n\nSpeaker 2: so tiefsitze, so tiefsitze die verlegt das Auto.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, es ist Alter.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, es ist Alter, ja. Langsam find ich's so echt so Daddy Come cool, scheiße so. Ich kann echt in das Alter fuck. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wie alt bist Du echt, Dave? Ich bin 30 superjung, oder?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ich bin jetzt\n\nSpeaker 2: 30 Ohren, ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ah nee, dann ist auch schon so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nein, das ist alles auch schon so.\n\nSpeaker 1: 30 ging bei mir so drin los, also ab da hab ich dann immer gewusst.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, aber das das ist ja schon mit 20, also\n\nSpeaker 1: Talkan.\n\nSpeaker 0: Regt es. Ja. Aber gesundheitlich muss man schon sagen, also merkt man dir die 30 stark an.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, weil jetzt Also in der Wohnung\n\nSpeaker 0: all das Mögliche Gebrechen. Ich mein, Du bist wirklich 'n alter Mann jetzt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das stimmt, ja gut, ja gut, aber diese Schulterverletzung, was sagt Das sagt derjenige,\n\nSpeaker 1: der gerade Tischtennis abgesagt hat. Ja, genau.\n\nSpeaker 2: Kannst Du denn, das ist\n\nSpeaker 0: so anstrengend, das war nicht im Podcast, das können wir nicht mehr schon sehen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ach so und ein Pluspunkt Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Will ich\n\nSpeaker 2: auch noch mal sagen, also wieder bisschen zu die komplette zurückzukommen. Sorry. Tatsächlich, ich war mega geflasht von Dresden.\n\nSpeaker 3: Das will\n\nSpeaker 2: ich auch noch mal sagen, also weil ich find, das macht durchaus was aus. Ist natürlich mal die Frage, Dresden, ist natürlich immer die Frage, wie viel Zeit man da natürlich hat, wenn man da hinreist und auf der Konferenz ist und meistens vielleicht am selben Abend weggeht, aber wir sind ja am Abend vorher angekommen und ich ich hatte lang nicht mehr dieses Gefühl, ich bin durch die Altstadt gegangen, da haben Zwinger und es war dann zur Frauenkirche und so weiter. Und ich fand das richtig geil, dass ich hier einfach stehen geblieben bin und mich umgeschaut habe und gesagt habe, wie war also wie monumental ist das alles? Also ich ich hab jetzt Das hab ich mir so, das ist nur das ist die wichtigste Stadt Deutschlands, hab ich gerade gedacht. So, das ist irgendwie so so krass.\n\nAlso es hatte son positiven Eindruck irgendwie und ich fand's megaschön, einfach so durch die Straße zu flanieren und einfach so Dresden auf mich wirken zu lassen. Wir waren ja auch in 2 Bars, Dennis, so und dachten wir, das waren so geile Bars. Ich war, wir waren ja auch in 2 Restaurants. Dann bin ich auch so, erst ist ganz gut und das irgendwie, also das ist einfach schön, also irgendwie so, also die Stadt an sich noch mal son bisschen kennenzulernen, auch wenn wir da jetzt natürlich, weil wir ja primär auf der Konferenz waren, nicht so viel mitbekommen haben, aber irgendwie und\n\nSpeaker 0: da Was werden wir noch in UK gelandet? Und was\n\nSpeaker 2: haben wir in UK gelandet? 'N RI. Geil. Großes Schnaudert,\n\nSpeaker 0: 'N großes Schnaudert zu nach RI. Nach RI. In in London. Partnerstadt von London.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Südlich von London.\n\nSpeaker 3: Wir lassen\n\nSpeaker 0: uns das zur Partnerstadt von das neue Mal.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, das ist jetzt so geil.\n\nSpeaker 0: RI, ja. Genau. Na ja, das war Cool,\n\nSpeaker 1: cool, dass Du das sagst, Dave, das\n\nSpeaker 0: freut mich schon. Und er hat auch jetzt, also bisschen dresden unabhängig, aber nee, gleiche gleiche Eindrücke. Manchmal vermisse ich so Großstadt irgendwie, muss ich sagen. Ich mein, ich hab viele Jahre ja auch in Frankfurt gewohnt, aber ich fand das so schön, als ich zu dem Tech Round Liebildern Tech Round Table gefahren bin. Dann habe ich mir 'n Fahrrad hier einfach ausgeliehen auf der Straße Ja.\n\nUnd bin halt im Sonnenuntergang genau auch da am am am Zwinger der Oper und so weiter vorbeigefahren über die Brücke und es war einfach eine superschöne Atmosphäre, sitzt auf seinem Rad. Das fühlte sich schön an, ja. Das war 'n schöner Moment.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und wie romantisch war das denn bitte, als ich da nachts in 'nem auf dem Roller dur auf dem Fahrrad, wo wir so gemeinsam durch die Nacht gefahren sind? Das war Ja. Das war, ach, himmlisch. Ach, mein Herz.\n\nSpeaker 0: Vielen Dank, Dave, auch an der Stelle.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, danke, dass wir willkommen bist.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja,\n\nSpeaker 2: das war richtig cool. Wie wie langweilig wär's denn gewesen, wenn Du jetzt alleine laut gewesen wärst? Das wär sehr langweilig gewesen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also außer die Gespräche mit Philipp.\n\nSpeaker 2: Genau. Ja. Und die Da hast\n\nSpeaker 1: ja viele Philippe gehabt, also\n\nSpeaker 2: Genau. 1 von den 12.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ach ja. Schön. So, Philipp, jetzt hast Du mal erlebt, wie es ist, wenn man eine Podcastfolge kurzhalten will und wir nähern uns jetzt 1 Stunde Aufnahmezeit. Klasse. So ist es, leider häufig.\n\nSpeaker 1: Da bin ich doch nicht mal alles losgeworden, also\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Was wärst Du gern noch gefragt worden, Philipp?\n\nSpeaker 2: Das ist genau eigentlich perfekt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ui. Ja, schön. Ich jetzt jetzt bin ich\n\nSpeaker 2: Pistole auf der Brust. Ich\n\nSpeaker 1: hab, also lustigerweise, ich hab gedacht Fürs\n\nSpeaker 0: 4 und nicht.\n\nSpeaker 3: Wie lange\n\nSpeaker 1: ich die Programmierbauer schon höre. Und das kann ich euch nicht mal beantworten. Ich wollt heut früh Ich bin ja ich bin heute früher, ich war bin 4 aufgemacht, hab die ganze Zeit panisch. Alle Fragen bin ich durchgegangen und hab überlegt, was antworte ich, wenn der Dennis mich das fragt, das, das, das, das.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und die hat Was wär so die kritischeste Frage gewesen?\n\nSpeaker 1: Da da hast Du schon ganz gut getroffen. Ich Kurt, war jetzt irgendwie TSMC und so, also mit den ganzen Halbleiterzeug bei uns. Da war ich Okay. Jetzt quasi nicht vorbereitet.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 3: Wo man\n\nSpeaker 1: das die ganze Zeit hat irgendwie, ich komm immer aus dieser Tech Szene und dreh davon, aber dann, wenn Du mich dann auf den Namen fragst, dann weiß ich das aber nicht. Nee, ich hätte gedacht, ihr fragt, wie lange ich die schon höre und ich könnte euch das nicht mehr beantworten. Ich muss das noch mal nachschauen. Ich seh das bestimmt bei Spotify.\n\nSpeaker 3: Weiß ich gar nicht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Na, ich hör jetzt auf relativ lange alte alte Folter.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist aber bevor Spotify gab.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wirklich? Nee, nee, nee,\n\nSpeaker 3: nee, nee,\n\nSpeaker 0: nee, so. Nein, nicht wirklich.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich glaub, seit 22 hör ich auch erst, also das ich euch gibt's ja schon viel, viel länger.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, seit 2019? Ja, ne? 2019. Okay.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich glaub, ich bin 22 dazugekommen. Das wär ja noch mal interessant, ob ich das nachschaue und vielleicht auch noch mal, was ich Also ich wollt eigentlich noch noch mal vielen Dank sagen an die Programmierbar, wie ihr was ihr hier macht. Das prägt meinen Alltag. Ich schreib euch das ja ganz oft. Ich find das wirklich cool.\n\nAlso ich als Beispiel, ich, sonst bin ich immer früher, ihr kennt jetzt den ja, wir saßen immer früh da, als wir noch die Firma hatten und saßen da, hatten Zeit, haben drüber gequatscht über die Tikthemen, über die ihr auch quatscht. Und wir hatten auch ähnliche solche Gespräche und irgendwann war das natürlich nicht mehr möglich und krieg ich jetzt immer über euren Podcast. So, ich mach wieder früh, wenn ich auf Arbeit laufe oder auf mit Fahrrad fahre oder im Auto sitze, mach ich mir das Ding an und dann fühl ich mich immer wie, als ob ich bei euch mit dabeisitze. Und das find ich total cool.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und und jetzt bist Du dabei?\n\nSpeaker 1: Und jetzt Das ist Mindblowing, also Ja. Deswegen\n\nSpeaker 3: Ach, schön.\n\nSpeaker 0: Vielen, vielen Dank. Das freut uns und motiviert uns mega. Ja, das das Kommt\n\nSpeaker 1: jetzt beide so Ich find das richtig cool.\n\nSpeaker 0: Danke sehr. Ach, Dave, ja? Hast Du noch\n\nSpeaker 2: was zu ergänzen? Nee, ich hab überlegt, ob man vielleicht zum Abschluss so sagen könnte, wem empfiehlt man jetzt konkret Ja. Auf die D-Compile zu gehen? Hörerinnen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Allen,\n\nSpeaker 2: einfach.\n\nSpeaker 0: Einfach. Ausnahm. Ausnahmschall.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, kann man so sagen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja, aber\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich hätte noch ich hätte vielleicht die Ergänzung halt, also ich kenn ganz viele, das ist, ich komm, ich bin ja mit dem Problem konfrontiert und ich hab's ja selber erfahren, geht aus dieser Komfortzone raus als Entwickler. Also denkt nicht immer nur an diesen Deep Shit Kubernetes und Kubernetes, alle möglichen Technologien, sondern probiert. Und grade für so was sind die Konferenzen super, einfach mal aus dieser Bubble rauszukommen und zu gucken und mal rauszugehen genau auf diese Metathemen, Produkt, warum mach ich das? Warum code ich das? Warum sitz ich den ganzen Tag gerne am Rechner?\n\nUnd warum sollt ich was sollt ich da machen? Und grade jetzt mit AI, jetzt geht alles noch viel, viel schneller und jetzt kann man noch viel mehr besser Impact machen. Und für genau so was und für genau die Leute ist, glaub ich, auch sone Konferenz super, weil man kommt da raus, man redet da drüber und geht so quasi auch mal son Schritt raus aus dem Deep Tech, so würde ich jetzt sagen.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ah. Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also ich würd trotzdem den allen Leuten empfehlen, wenn sie halt jetzt irgendwie Infrastruktur machen, dann sollen sie halt auf spezialisierte Events gehen, aber wenn's halt darum geht, Impact, warum mach ich das? Warum kod ich? Was kann ich damit machen? Dann auf jeden Fall klare Empfehlung. Aber wie gesagt, einmal alles vorsichtig genießen mit meiner, ja, die Geschichte gehört.\n\nAber cool, wenn's euch gefallen hat, dann freut mich das am allermeisten. Das war mir wichtig. Ja, das Und und schreibt auf jeden Fall Kritik an die die Compide, weil da die werden die lesen das Feedback auf jeden Fall und die probieren das wirklich jedes Jahr auch besser zu machen. Das ist auch so was, was ich ziemlich cool finde. Also die arbeiten da Da sind richtig coole Leute dahinter, also die Ja.\n\nDie lesen das durch und die nehmen das auch ernst, gerade wenn ihr so was schreibt, dann ist das noch mal noch mal spannender. Ja, nee, ihr solltet euch ja da nicht so unterschätzen, also Live Podcasts gab's halt auch noch nicht vorher, deswegen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das stimmt. Ja, das stimmt. Ja, cool. Dann hoffen wir, dass wir nächstes Jahr vielleicht auch wieder was zusammen machen können da auf der die Compile und wieder da sein werden.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ich würd\n\nSpeaker 1: mich übrigens freuen. Also und dann kommt gleich alle alle alle Zuhörer kommen gleich mal mit. Dann machen wir doch auch 'n großes Klassentreffen. Treffen wir uns einmal Anfang des Jahres, dann einmal auf der Programmierkorn und dann Oh, stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gut, ja. Sehr gut. Oh, da werden wir so Partnerkonferenzen machen Oh. Irgendwann. Unsere Partnerkonferenzen Und\n\nSpeaker 1: dann machen wir so versteckte solche Easter Eggs so, dass man man muss da da gewesen sein, damit man dann dort irgendwie das nächste Schloss aufbauen. Man kann\n\nSpeaker 0: hier die Typ sammeln. Ja. Sehr gut. Alles klar. Gut.\n\nVielen Dank Philipp, dass Du die Zeit hattest.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, vielen Dank fürs\n\nSpeaker 0: Reden. Hat uns sehr gefreut.\n\nSpeaker 2: Wurde Insights auf jeden Fall noch mal\n\nSpeaker 0: von deiner Seite aus. Ja. Und bleib uns ein treuer Hörer.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, auf alle Fälle. Danke auf jeden Fall für die Einladung. Das ich war, ich wollt, Du hattest geschrieben Dennis und ich hab die, mir erst Momente sofort gehabt, nee, nee, nee, kann ich nicht, kann ich nicht, kann ich nicht, kann ich nicht, kann ich nicht. Und dann hab ich gesagt, nee, jetzt komm komm raus aus deiner Komfortzone, Philipp.\n\nSpeaker 2: Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 0: Gutes Mindset. Souveränes souveränes Auftreten für deine erste Podcastfolge. Dankeschön. Macht's gut, bis bald. Wenn ihr Feedback habt zu dieser Folge, schreibt uns gerne an Podcast App Programmier Punkt bar und sonst hören wir uns ganz bald wieder.\n\nBis 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und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen programmierbare Folge und zwar wieder einem Special.",{"text":37445,"start":204,"end":261},"Wir sprechen nämlich heute über die Compiled Konferenz in Dresden und machen ein kurzes Recap damit.",{"text":37447,"start":261,"end":315},"Ich bin Dennis Becker und Hier ist Dave Acker, David Kusczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczczc Gast.",{"text":37449,"start":315,"end":336},"Kann man kann man Superlativ.",{"text":37451,"start":340,"end":354},"Kann man fast schon sagen.",52,{"sentences":37454,"speaker":147,"num_words":37463,"start":354,"end":622},[37455,37457,37459,37461],{"text":37456,"start":354,"end":427},"Ja, wir sind nämlich sehr froh, ihn als Hörer zu haben, der Programmierer schon seit langer, langer Zeit.",{"text":37458,"start":431,"end":488},"Und er hat uns netterweise immer schönes Feedback hinterlassen und mag, glaube ich, die Programmierer einigermaßen.",{"text":37460,"start":493,"end":603},"Umso schöner ist es, dass wir heute die Möglichkeit haben, ihn mal hier den Podcast zu hören, denn er war mit auf der Konferenz und hat deswegen mit Sicherheit 'n bisschen was auch darüber zu berichten.",{"text":37462,"start":608,"end":622},"Guten Morgen, Philipp Leein.",74,{"sentences":37465,"speaker":126,"num_words":37476,"start":626,"end":780},[37466,37468,37470,37472,37474],{"text":37467,"start":626,"end":635},"Ja, moin moin.",{"text":37469,"start":639,"end":677},"Bin der Philipp, großer Programmierfan und freu mich, hier zu sein.",{"text":37471,"start":677,"end":708},"Also ist für mich eine sehr, sehr große Ehre.",{"text":37473,"start":708,"end":758},"Ich könnt jetzt schon anfangen, ganz viel zu reden, aber ich hör direkt erst mal auf.",{"text":37475,"start":758,"end":780},"Und das würde ich Ich mag",45,{"sentences":37478,"speaker":785,"num_words":37484,"start":780,"end":830},[37479,37481,37483],{"text":37480,"start":780,"end":809},"ich mag diese Energie am Anfang schon, ne.",{"text":37482,"start":809,"end":824},"Ja, find ich find's.",{"text":832,"start":829,"end":830},13,{"sentences":37486,"speaker":126,"num_words":37491,"start":830,"end":931},[37487,37489],{"text":37488,"start":830,"end":848},"Also ich bin richtig hyped.",{"text":37490,"start":848,"end":931},"Also ich hab quasi, ich bin aufgeregt, weil ich hab die Windeln an, aber auch die die die Hypbrillen und die Fanbrillen quasi, also",29,{"sentences":37493,"speaker":147,"num_words":37503,"start":933,"end":1051},[37494,37496,37498,37500,37502],{"text":37495,"start":933,"end":942},"Sehr, sehr gut.",{"text":37497,"start":946,"end":1005},"Judi, die Compiled in Dresden, da waren Dave und ich zusammen von der Programmierbar Slash Lotum aus.",{"text":37499,"start":1009,"end":1031},"Er hat letzte Woche am Was war 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jetzt.",9,{"sentences":37530,"speaker":147,"num_words":37452,"start":1159,"end":1323},[37531,37533,37535,37537,37539],{"text":37532,"start":1159,"end":1171},"Ah, sehr gut.",{"text":37534,"start":1171,"end":1273},"Es war war der zwölfte bereits und genau, wir machen ja manchmal in der Programmier war son bisschen Recaps zu Konferenzen, euch son bisschen Einblick zu geben, was waren da für Themen?",{"text":37536,"start":1277,"end":1286},"Was hat gut funktioniert?",{"text":37538,"start":1286,"end":1302},"Was hat nicht so gut funktioniert?",{"text":37540,"start":1302,"end":1323},"Es ist das, was man empfehlen würde.",{"sentences":37542,"speaker":147,"num_words":37553,"start":1328,"end":1419},[37543,37545,37547,37549,37551],{"text":37544,"start":1328,"end":1335},"So, Decompiled.",{"text":37546,"start":1339,"end":1372},"Philipp, Du kennst Du kennst Du die ganze Geschichte rund Decompiled?",{"text":37548,"start":1376,"end":1389},"Also wo kommt die her?",{"text":37550,"start":1389,"end":1402},"Seit wann gibt's die?",{"text":37552,"start":1402,"end":1419},"Wie viel weißt Du da?",27,{"sentences":37555,"speaker":147,"num_words":37558,"start":1419,"end":1440},[37556],{"text":37557,"start":1419,"end":1440},"'N bisschen was weiß ich mich auch.",7,{"sentences":37560,"speaker":126,"num_words":37571,"start":1444,"end":1720},[37561,37563,37565,37567,37569],{"text":37562,"start":1444,"end":1457},"Ich hab bisschen recherchiert vorher.",{"text":37564,"start":1457,"end":1522},"Ich kann mich auch nicht mehr gerne dran erinnern, aber die verfolgt mich schon so mein ganzes Entwicklerleben hier in Dresden.",{"text":37566,"start":1526,"end":1548},"Ich glaub, die erste war 20 18.",{"text":37568,"start":1552,"end":1652},"20 18 war die erste und da war das von Lavoo getrieben und war so die, ich glaub, das war auch so die erste große Konferenz, die ich besucht habe, so weil in Dresden gibt's nicht so viel.",{"text":37570,"start":1656,"end":1720},"Es gibt noch den JugG Sachsen Idee und na ja, da vergisst's jetzt auf Anhieb vielleicht 'n paar.",89,{"sentences":37573,"speaker":785,"num_words":126,"start":1720,"end":1723},[37574],{"text":1052,"start":1720,"end":1723},{"sentences":37576,"speaker":126,"num_words":37583,"start":1727,"end":1857},[37577,37579,37581],{"text":37578,"start":1727,"end":1751},"Aber die DecomPipe war so das erste große Ding.",{"text":37580,"start":1751,"end":1798},"Und dann, glaub ich, 20 18 und dann zwischendrin in Coronazeiten war sie mal nicht.",{"text":37582,"start":1802,"end":1857},"Und jetzt war ich die letzten 2 Jahre wieder, also 24, 25 und 26 jetzt auch dabei gewesen.",42,{"sentences":37585,"speaker":147,"num_words":37593,"start":1860,"end":1924},[37586,37588,37589,37591],{"text":37587,"start":1860,"end":1865},"Sehr gut.",{"text":1870,"start":1865,"end":1868},{"text":37590,"start":1872,"end":1915},"Und ich muss ja Bei bei Silicon Saxing muss ich immer son bisschen 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deep anhören, dann hört's bei mir schon immer meistens auf, dann schreib ich mir das auf und nehm's mir mit.",{"text":38168,"start":7562,"end":7660},"Wenn ich bei, ob bei euch zum Beispiel bei der Programmier Con, ich mir son paar Sachen, da konnt ich dann irgendwie dem dem, wie hieß der Selte Gründer, den konnt ich so 10 Minuten folgen.",{"text":38170,"start":7660,"end":7694},"Dann hab ich mir gesagt, okay, Selte, doch mal angucken, folgende Sachen.",{"text":38172,"start":7694,"end":7718},"Aber da drin steigst Du ja dann irgendwann aus.",{"text":38174,"start":7718,"end":7761},"Also das ist so, also zumindest geht mir das so Und das hat sich auch mit der Zeit gewandelt.",105,{"sentences":38177,"speaker":126,"num_words":38186,"start":7761,"end":8002},[38178,38180,38182,38184],{"text":38179,"start":7761,"end":7793},"Also mein mein mein mein Mindset ist jetzt immer so, ich geh auf Konferenzen.",{"text":38181,"start":7793,"end":7835},"Früher bin ich da hingegangen, was zu wirklich mir die 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ist.",{"text":38199,"start":8063,"end":8091},"Also ich mein, die Mittagspause allein ist Sorry, Fokus auf?",{"text":38201,"start":8095,"end":8104},"Auf Networking, sorry.",{"text":1052,"start":8104,"end":8107},{"text":38204,"start":8107,"end":8115},"Okay, sehr gut.",{"sentences":38206,"speaker":147,"num_words":38214,"start":8115,"end":8252},[38207,38208,38210,38212],{"text":1052,"start":8115,"end":8117},{"text":38209,"start":8117,"end":8186},"Auf aufs Network Netzwerken allein die Mittagspause sind ja irgendwie 2 Stunden, was so für eine ITG Konferenz irgendwie schon relativ lange ist.",{"text":38211,"start":8186,"end":8235},"Jetzt haben wir da während der Mittagspause 'n bisschen Bescheid und manchen vielleicht die Mittagspause 'n bisschen verkürzt.",{"text":38213,"start":8239,"end":8252},"Aber das fand ich ja auch",48,{"sentences":38216,"speaker":785,"num_words":37558,"start":8255,"end":8278},[38217,38219],{"text":38218,"start":8255,"end":8274},"Ja, süß, heutzutage zu sagen, ne?",{"text":8279,"start":8274,"end":8278},{"sentences":38221,"speaker":147,"num_words":38231,"start":8281,"end":8515},[38222,38223,38225,38227,38229],{"text":1052,"start":8281,"end":8282},{"text":38224,"start":8282,"end":8376},"Und das fand ich eigentlich auch aber auch ganz, ganz schön, dass das so eher als, ne, als Rahmenangebot war, dass man da mal irgendwie 'n bisschen reinhören konnte, ja und so weiter.",{"text":38226,"start":8376,"end":8465},"Zugegebenermaßen waren wir 'n bisschen Ging bei mir der Herzschlag 'n bisschen höher, als Johannes Braun die Konferenz eröffnet hat Und sagte so, ja, mein persönliches Highlight heute ist die Podcastaufnahme.",{"text":38228,"start":8469,"end":8489},"Und dachte ich so, oh, okay.",{"text":38230,"start":8492,"end":8515},"Und wenn ich dann dann gucken wir mal und",80,{"sentences":38233,"speaker":785,"num_words":37673,"start":8515,"end":8574},[38234,38236],{"text":38235,"start":8515,"end":8542},"vergesst auf keinen Fall in der Mittagspause da zuzuschalten.",{"text":38237,"start":8546,"end":8574},"Also hier wischt ich noch mal noch mal die 5 Ankündigung.",{"sentences":38239,"speaker":147,"num_words":38140,"start":8574,"end":8623},[38240,38242,38243,38245],{"text":38241,"start":8574,"end":8599},"Dafür, dass wir das dann das erste Mal gemacht haben.",{"text":1052,"start":8602,"end":8603},{"text":38244,"start":8607,"end":8613},"War hoffentlich okay.",{"text":38246,"start":8613,"end":8623},"Also ich glaube Habt",{"sentences":38248,"speaker":126,"num_words":37558,"start":8623,"end":8641},[38249],{"text":38250,"start":8623,"end":8641},"ihr gut gemacht, habt ihr gut gemacht.",{"sentences":38252,"speaker":785,"num_words":37645,"start":8641,"end":8655},[38253],{"text":38254,"start":8641,"end":8655},"Es gibt so, ich hab",{"sentences":38256,"speaker":126,"num_words":37910,"start":8655,"end":8717},[38257],{"text":38258,"start":8655,"end":8717},"'n paar Sachen, die ich, wo ich mir denke, was man noch machen kann, aber da ich hab auch 'n paar Geschichten dazu.",{"sentences":38260,"speaker":1125,"num_words":785,"start":8721,"end":8725},[38261],{"text":37587,"start":8721,"end":8725},{"sentences":38263,"speaker":126,"num_words":37558,"start":8725,"end":8751},[38264,38266],{"text":38265,"start":8725,"end":8738},"Gut, dann noch mal.",{"text":38267,"start":8742,"end":8751},"Nicht die kannst",{"sentences":38269,"speaker":147,"num_words":37688,"start":8751,"end":8770},[38270],{"text":38271,"start":8751,"end":8770},"Du direkt die kannst Du direkt öffentlich teilen.",{"sentences":38273,"speaker":126,"num_words":38284,"start":8773,"end":8893},[38274,38276,38278,38280,38282],{"text":38275,"start":8773,"end":8791},"Soll ich dich gleich mal öffentlich teilen.",{"text":38277,"start":8791,"end":8825},"Also für mich ist das natürlich 'n großer Umwelt gewesen, die programmierbar live.",{"text":38279,"start":8829,"end":8836},"Ich fand's cool.",{"text":38281,"start":8836,"end":8856},"Ich hab bis jetzt einmal 'n Podcast live gehört.",{"text":38283,"start":8856,"end":8893},"Ich gehör ab und zu, gute Laune zu kommen, Kaulitz Hills.",43,{"sentences":38286,"speaker":147,"num_words":37645,"start":8897,"end":8910},[38287,38288],{"text":3579,"start":8897,"end":8898},{"text":38289,"start":8898,"end":8910},"Da hab ich ja",{"sentences":38291,"speaker":126,"num_words":38302,"start":8910,"end":9080},[38292,38294,38296,38298,38300],{"text":38293,"start":8910,"end":8995},"mit den Kaulitz Brüdern und die hatten neben Hamburg mal sone live Liveshow gemacht und die war halt schon, also die hab ich als Mess quasi als Messlatte genommen.",{"text":38295,"start":8995,"end":9008},"Die ist halt krass gewesen.",{"text":38297,"start":9008,"end":9026},"Das sind halt so total diese Showtypen.",{"text":38299,"start":9030,"end":9059},"Das hab ich jetzt auch nicht erwartet von euch oder so was, ne.",{"text":38301,"start":9059,"end":9080},"Und jetzt irgendwie gar nicht kritisch oder so, ne.",63,{"sentences":38304,"speaker":126,"num_words":37791,"start":9080,"end":9164},[38305,38307],{"text":38306,"start":9080,"end":9120},"Aber ich hab mir so vorgestellt, ihr könntet ja theoretisch Programmierbar sone Bar hinbauen.",{"text":38308,"start":9124,"end":9164},"Da hätte man wahrscheinlich den, wie hieß er, ich hab den Namen vergessen von von GitHub.",{"sentences":38310,"speaker":147,"num_words":37517,"start":9164,"end":9180},[38311,38313],{"text":38312,"start":9164,"end":9177},"Pierre, Pierre, Pierre.",{"text":9178,"start":9177,"end":9180},{"sentences":38315,"speaker":126,"num_words":38231,"start":9182,"end":9379},[38316,38317,38319,38321,38323],{"text":1052,"start":9182,"end":9183},{"text":38318,"start":9183,"end":9236},"Da hätte man vielleicht dann noch son bisschen, wenn man irgendwie Der Dave hätte dagestanden, der hat seine Cocktails gemacht.",{"text":38320,"start":9236,"end":9302},"Muss ja jetzt nicht alkoholisch sein oder so was, sondern kann ja auch alkoholfrei sein, hätte man den vielleicht noch son bisschen aus der Reserve locken können.",{"text":38322,"start":9302,"end":9333},"Der war so sehr, ah, den hat man irgendwie nicht richtig greifen können.",{"text":38324,"start":9333,"end":9379},"Ich wollte immer so, ich fand das cool, Dennis, dass Du da probiert hast, so das persönlich mit reinzubringen.",{"sentences":38326,"speaker":126,"num_words":38214,"start":9383,"end":9512},[38327,38329,38331,38333,38335],{"text":38328,"start":9383,"end":9392},"Dazu auch eine Geschichte.",{"text":38330,"start":9392,"end":9414},"Man konnte ja so boten und Fragen stellen.",{"text":38332,"start":9418,"end":9442},"Und Dave, Du hattest immer reingeguckt in die Fragen.",{"text":38334,"start":9446,"end":9481},"Und ganz am Anfang waren relativ wenig Fragen drin und dann hab ich mich irgendwann getraut.",{"text":38336,"start":9481,"end":9512},"Ich hab ewig lang überlegt, post ich jetzt was, frag ich.",{"sentences":38338,"speaker":126,"num_words":38343,"start":9512,"end":9590},[38339,38341],{"text":38340,"start":9512,"end":9556},"Und eigentlich bin ich immer so Fan, grade bei den CTO Specials, ich find das Persönliche.",{"text":38342,"start":9560,"end":9590},"Ich wollt unbedingt wissen, wie sieht denn den den sein Alltag aus?",28,{"sentences":38345,"speaker":1125,"num_words":126,"start":9590,"end":9593},[38346],{"text":3323,"start":9590,"end":9593},{"sentences":38348,"speaker":126,"num_words":38359,"start":9593,"end":9713},[38349,38351,38353,38355,38357],{"text":38350,"start":9593,"end":9631},"hat immer so, ich will jetzt nicht hören, was der wie wie der über AI denkt.",{"text":38352,"start":9631,"end":9661},"Das kann ich mir vorstellen bei GitHub ungefähr, wie das aussieht.",{"text":38354,"start":9661,"end":9687},"Aber ich will so wissen, wie ändert sich denn sein Alltag?",{"text":38356,"start":9687,"end":9698},"Wie viel benutzt er AI?",{"text":38358,"start":9701,"end":9713},"Wie sieht das bei denen aus?",49,{"sentences":38361,"speaker":126,"num_words":38372,"start":9713,"end":9977},[38362,38364,38366,38368,38370],{"text":38363,"start":9713,"end":9800},"Ich stell mir das total stressig grad bei GitHub vor, weil ich die mein meine, die machen ja auch 'n, die müssen ja auch großes Pushy voranschreiten mit AI in 'nem Thema.",{"text":38365,"start":9803,"end":9890},"Und da hat er sich irgendwie nicht so richtig catchen lassen, aber Du hattest die Frage irgendwann noch rausgeholt, Dennis, weil meine Frage ist dann irgendwann ganz weit runtergetaucht, weil die niemand gevotet hat.",{"text":38367,"start":9890,"end":9933},"Ich hab gedacht, och Mann, ey, was ist das ist doch das ist doch traurig.",{"text":38369,"start":9933,"end":9954},"Da hab ich mir private Fenster aufgemacht.",{"text":38371,"start":9958,"end":9977},"Bei Wils ist auch viermal dran gevotet.",95,{"sentences":38374,"speaker":126,"num_words":38385,"start":9981,"end":10201},[38375,38377,38379,38381,38383],{"text":38376,"start":9981,"end":10038},"Da ist es son kleines Stückchen hochgegangen, aber irgendwann hab ich auch gegeben, weil dann kamen dann ganz viele andere Sachen, Mhm.",{"text":38378,"start":10041,"end":10070},"Die dann hochgegangen sind, die ja dann auch berechtigterweise gefragt haben.",{"text":38380,"start":10070,"end":10167},"Aber ich war total cool, Dennis, dass Du dann, ich hab hier irgendwo noch mal irgendwo eine Frage, war das, ich wollt dein, noch mal das Persönliche, weil das ist für mich immer Programmierbar, ist son bisschen auch was Persönliches.",{"text":38382,"start":10167,"end":10189},"Fand ich cool, dass Du das noch gefragt hattest.",{"text":38384,"start":10189,"end":10201},"Das war so mein 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irgendwie so, also erstens Du hörst das halt über die Anlage so, deswegen also Akustik war jetzt nicht ganz optimal, so war also vollkommen fein, aber gleichzeitig das Gespräch zu verfolgen.",{"text":38406,"start":10476,"end":10521},"Auf Englisch dann noch mal so, das trotzdem mir sone Fünfprozenthürde so, dass es 'n bisschen schwieriger macht.",{"text":38408,"start":10521,"end":10637},"Dann gleichzeitig hat mir so, oh ja, es ist 'n Live Podcast, wir wollen ja das Publikum hier irgendwie mit mit einbeziehen und dann irgendwie so parallel auf Chat geguckt, der so, fuck, was hat Pia gerade gesagt, so, wo sind wir gerade?",149,{"sentences":38411,"speaker":785,"num_words":38417,"start":10637,"end":10745},[38412,38414,38415],{"text":38413,"start":10637,"end":10685},"Und es also, es hat mich doch kognitiv doch 'n bisschen mehr belastet, als ich am Anfang vermutet habe.",{"text":1052,"start":10688,"end":10689},{"text":38416,"start":10689,"end":10745},"Aber deswegen war's, glaub ich, auch also 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bleibt.",{"sentences":38435,"speaker":147,"num_words":38445,"start":10884,"end":11152},[38436,38437,38439,38441,38443],{"text":10873,"start":10884,"end":10887},{"text":38438,"start":10887,"end":10967},"Ich bin auch Also ich bin jetzt nicht unzufrieden, aber ich würde sagen, so fürs erste Mal war's okay, aber ich hab auch einige Ideen, was wir anders und besser machen können.",{"text":38440,"start":10967,"end":11046},"Und ich glaube, die Faktoren, die Du genannt hast Also Sprache, nicht ganz klar abgestecktes Thema so, bin ich eigentlich recht offen für das zu machen und gerade der Programmierbar.",{"text":38442,"start":11050,"end":11113},"Dort im Setting halt 'n bisschen schwierig, weil wir auch nicht genau wussten, was sind die Inhalte der Keynote, was auch in der Zeit, ne.",{"text":38444,"start":11113,"end":11152},"Ich hab meine ja teilweise gesagt, ja, die letztes Wochenende habe ich das gemacht.",102,{"sentences":38447,"speaker":147,"num_words":37452,"start":11152,"end":11292},[38448,38450,38452,38453,38454],{"text":38449,"start":11152,"end":11190},"Also auch das entwickelt sich halt so schnell, dass man dann nicht so wahnsinnig Ja.",{"text":38451,"start":11192,"end":11202},"Sich drauf vorbereiten kann.",{"text":1052,"start":11202,"end":11205},{"text":1870,"start":11207,"end":11208},{"text":38455,"start":11212,"end":11292},"Plus ja, dann auch immer so bisschen das Wissen, okay, gibt son paar Sachen, so immer Business Sachen und so was, über die Leute natürlich auch nicht gerne gefragt werden, wenn",{"sentences":38457,"speaker":126,"num_words":37724,"start":11292,"end":11313},[38458],{"text":38459,"start":11292,"end":11313},"man Man hat man gemerkt, dass",{"sentences":38461,"speaker":147,"num_words":37708,"start":11313,"end":11386},[38462,38464,38466,38468,38470],{"text":38463,"start":11313,"end":11320},"man so.",{"text":38465,"start":11320,"end":11343},"Ja, da in irgend eine Richtung zu pushen.",{"text":38467,"start":11346,"end":11365},"Ja, aber hat trotzdem super Spaß gemacht.",{"text":38469,"start":11365,"end":11374},"Also war Safe.",{"text":38471,"start":11377,"end":11386},"War war mega cool.",{"sentences":38473,"speaker":147,"num_words":1125,"start":11388,"end":11396},[38474],{"text":38475,"start":11388,"end":11396},"Auch geil grade",{"sentences":38477,"speaker":126,"num_words":37678,"start":11396,"end":11574},[38478,38480,38482,38484],{"text":38479,"start":11396,"end":11423},"mit Vampir oder so, aber ich find das immer krass.",{"text":38481,"start":11423,"end":11478},"Also die Leute da Ich kann das gar nicht, sodass die die lassen sich überhaupt nicht in die Karten schauen, so.",{"text":38483,"start":11478,"end":11525},"Das ist so total wie wie ausm wie son richtiger Sales Dude gefühlt, so Ja, ja.",{"text":38485,"start":11528,"end":11574},"Gar nicht irgendwie Ja, ich find's der vielleicht jeder gesagt nix irgendwie irgendwo ausgerutscht.",{"sentences":38487,"speaker":147,"num_words":38445,"start":11578,"end":11841},[38488,38490,38492,38493,38495],{"text":38489,"start":11578,"end":11633},"Ich find das beeindruckend, also wie man wie man so eloquent irgendwie sprechen kann, auch über die Themen und so was.",{"text":38491,"start":11633,"end":11652},"Finde ich richtig, richtig cool eigentlich auch.",{"text":1052,"start":11652,"end":11654},{"text":38494,"start":11654,"end":11762},"Also das, ich mein, da war ja auch 'n super, in dem Sinne auch sehr einfacher Gast, ne, weil Du musstest nicht viel hinwerfen und er hat das eigentlich dann, ne, in irgendwie in in in seinen Worten sehr gut eingeordnet.",{"text":38496,"start":11765,"end":11841},"Aber er fand, ich fand auch ganz süß, er hatte vorher, als wir noch nicht auf der Aufnahme waren, so zu uns gesagt, ey, für mich ist das heute so entspannt 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Aussage, ne.",{"text":38530,"start":12359,"end":12513},"Du musst es dir aber so vorstellen und dann ne, wenn wir das jetzt so gesamtheitlich betrachten, ich so krass Alter, also wieder sone richtige Story in seiner Antwort und das ist gerade irgendwie so, ich weiß nicht ob das eine Repertoire ist, außer dem sie sich bedient, aber es ist einfach so so spontan dieses Bild zu erzeugen.",{"text":38532,"start":12513,"end":12568},"Es war so richtig, man konnte ihm richtig gut, ich fand das ich fand das atemberaubend, also ich fand das,",129,{"sentences":38535,"speaker":147,"num_words":785,"start":12568,"end":12574},[38536],{"text":38537,"start":12568,"end":12574},"ich war",{"sentences":38539,"speaker":785,"num_words":38546,"start":12574,"end":12664},[38540,38542,38544],{"text":38541,"start":12574,"end":12586},"wirklich so wow, wow.",{"text":38543,"start":12586,"end":12639},"Ich war so auf der Bühne, ich hab mir gedacht, wow, wie Du redest, ich lieb das, ich lieb das voll.",{"text":38545,"start":12639,"end":12664},"Das ist also wirklich, also Dropsoper an der Stelle.",34,{"sentences":38548,"speaker":147,"num_words":38302,"start":12664,"end":12833},[38549,38551,38553,38555,38556],{"text":38550,"start":12664,"end":12683},"Muss man seine Keynote auch lassen, ne?",{"text":38552,"start":12683,"end":12697},"Die fand ich auch richtig gut.",{"text":38554,"start":12697,"end":12712},"Die war halt so irgendwie, ja.",{"text":1052,"start":12716,"end":12717},{"text":38557,"start":12717,"end":12833},"Was eine Keynote machen soll, son bisschen inspirieren, bisschen, ne, Mindset irgendwie geben und dann auch so halt 'n bisschen auf dem Privaten geplaudert, wie er sich da sein eigenes Hardware Rack irgendwie gebaut hat und an Idlms son bisschen rumzuforschen und so.",{"sentences":38559,"speaker":147,"num_words":37463,"start":12835,"end":13035},[38560,38562,38564,38566],{"text":38561,"start":12835,"end":12842},"War sehr nahbar.",{"text":38563,"start":12842,"end":12856},"Also das war war sehr gut.",{"text":38565,"start":12858,"end":12908},"Gerade da wollte ich dich auch noch mal fragen, Philipp so, weil Englisch war ja jetzt am Randpunkt, ne.",{"text":38567,"start":12908,"end":13035},"Ich meine, wir haben jetzt das war unsere dritte englische Folge, die wir so haben und natürlich hemmt das in 'ner gewissen Weise, dass wir nicht so wie in unserer Muttersprache sprechen können und wenn an der Wortwitze auf Englisch nicht ganz so Ganz so was",{"sentences":38569,"speaker":126,"num_words":1125,"start":13035,"end":13045},[38570],{"text":38571,"start":13035,"end":13045},"wir auch noch.",{"sentences":38573,"speaker":785,"num_words":37517,"start":13049,"end":13060},[38574],{"text":38575,"start":13049,"end":13060},"Das stimmt, das stimmt.",{"sentences":38577,"speaker":147,"num_words":38582,"start":13060,"end":13236},[38578,38580],{"text":38579,"start":13060,"end":13117},"Und eben, es waren ja alle, also ausschließlich alles, was ich gehört habe auf der Konferenz abseits der Talks war Deutsch.",{"text":38581,"start":13120,"end":13236},"Also ich hab keinen einzigen, ich hab keine einzige Konversation gehört, die Englisch a, wo ich mich dann frage so, also ich verstehe den Anspruch irgendwo international dann zu sein, aber hältst Du es für eine richtige Entscheidung, die Talks dann auf Englisch zu machen?",66,{"sentences":38584,"speaker":126,"num_words":38595,"start":13239,"end":13731},[38585,38587,38589,38591,38593],{"text":38586,"start":13239,"end":13262},"Also ich will die Entscheidung jetzt gar nicht infrage stellen.",{"text":38588,"start":13262,"end":13283},"Ich hab da mit Tobi auch drüber gequatscht.",{"text":38590,"start":13283,"end":13366},"Tobi ist also unser Chef hier bei Devboost und der ist auch mit in der Planung mit drin und ich hab ihn noch mal gefragt, so was die die Intention dahinter ist.",{"text":38592,"start":13368,"end":13568},"Und das ist auch so das hab ich eben vergessen zu sagen, die Intention, von der die kommt halt jetzt so bitte die, ja, sag doch mal, die Champions League nach Dresden holen, weil Du hast hier halt kein Google sitzen, Du hast kein Facebook hier sitzen, das ist alles in Berlin und Du wisst aber diese ganzen ihr lacht über den Silicon Sectioneer, die wollen halt auch diese Leute, diese coolen Techfirmen irgendwie nach Dresden holen.",{"text":38594,"start":13568,"end":13731},"Und deswegen wollen sie's halt sich offenlassen, dass und wollen das halt auf Englisch komplett durchziehen, damit Du halt wirklich auch die englischen Speaker bekommen kannst, ne, dass die Leute halt Und das ist dass die Intention die, ob das die richtige Entscheidung ist, das möcht ich an der Stelle überhaupt nicht bewerten, aber ich versteh die versteh den den den Anspruch dahinter.",190,{"sentences":38597,"speaker":126,"num_words":37896,"start":13731,"end":13896},[38598,38600,38602],{"text":38599,"start":13731,"end":13751},"Also und das ist ja für mich auch interessant.",{"text":38601,"start":13751,"end":13774},"Ich glaub, dass die Leute, dass coole coole Talks kommen.",{"text":38603,"start":13774,"end":13896},"Also ich weiß, dass irgendwie der Lovable, irgendjemand da von denen zum Beispiel im Gespräch war und so und die kriegst Du wahrscheinlich dann, ich weiß nicht, ob da wie eure Erfahrung da ist, aber ich weiß nicht, ob man da die dann bekommt, wenn man nur deutsches Publikum anspricht.",{"sentences":38605,"speaker":785,"num_words":37724,"start":13899,"end":13912},[38606],{"text":38607,"start":13899,"end":13912},"Ja, ja, ist eine gute Frage.",{"sentences":38609,"speaker":147,"num_words":37944,"start":13912,"end":14006},[38610,38612],{"text":38611,"start":13912,"end":13992},"Ich mein, bei uns haben wir uns halt explizit dazu entschieden, es dann auf Deutsch zu machen, weil wir sonst gedacht haben, okay, sonst muss das ganze Setting außen rum halt auch auf Englisch sein.",{"text":38613,"start":13992,"end":14006},"Das heißt, man könnte schon",{"sentences":38615,"speaker":785,"num_words":37688,"start":14008,"end":14026},[38616],{"text":38617,"start":14008,"end":14026},"Ja, kurzzeitig hatten wir aber trotzdem Englisch überlegt.",{"sentences":38619,"speaker":147,"num_words":37678,"start":14030,"end":14176},[38620,38622,38624,38625,38627],{"text":38621,"start":14030,"end":14038},"Ja, ja, genau.",{"text":38623,"start":14038,"end":14072},"Ich mein nur in den Überlegungen, also wie's zu den Entscheidungen gekommen ist.",{"text":1052,"start":14072,"end":14074},{"text":38626,"start":14074,"end":14115},"Weil wir dann gedacht haben, okay, dann dann also wenn wäre unser Anspruch, es komplett Englisch durchzuziehen, ne?",{"text":38628,"start":14115,"end":14176},"Also von Beschilderung über, ne, auch wie wir reden, so das dann halt wirklich auf Englisch zu machen, damit's halt irgendwie sich dann dann darunter fühlt.",{"sentences":38630,"speaker":147,"num_words":38546,"start":14179,"end":14260},[38631,38633,38635,38636,38638],{"text":38632,"start":14179,"end":14224},"Und dann haben wir halt irgendwann gesagt, na ja, also was ist irgend eine Wo ist Englisch eine Hürde?",{"text":38634,"start":14224,"end":14238},"Wir sprechen alle Englisch als Entwickler*innen.",{"text":1052,"start":14238,"end":14242},{"text":38637,"start":14242,"end":14258},"Das ist jetzt nicht so das Ding.",{"text":1052,"start":14258,"end":14260},{"sentences":38640,"speaker":147,"num_words":38651,"start":14263,"end":14571},[38641,38643,38645,38647,38649],{"text":38642,"start":14263,"end":14298},"Aber natürlich ist es trotzdem Diese Natürlichkeit fällt halt manchen dann einfach schwerer.",{"text":38644,"start":14298,"end":14342},"Und deswegen haben wir bei uns gesagt, na gut, wir machen die Konferenz per se auf Deutsch.",{"text":38646,"start":14345,"end":14464},"Haben wir bei uns gesagt, na gut, wir machen die Konferenz per se auf Deutsch, sind aber offen für englische Talks, weil ich glaube, einen englischen Talk zu folgen, das ist jetzt nicht so die Hürde für die meisten und ja, haben dadurch vielleicht nicht mehr die gleiche Einschränkung.",{"text":38648,"start":14464,"end":14508},"Und ob jetzt der Natürlich ist das anderen auch 'n Thema, haben wir auch drüber gesprochen, ne?",{"text":38650,"start":14508,"end":14571},"Wenn der Gast dann hier ist und sich auch gerne noch 'n bisschen integrieren würde und jetzt nicht nur irgendwie da ist, dann ist das son kleiner Bruch.",124,{"sentences":38653,"speaker":147,"num_words":38343,"start":14575,"end":14637},[38654],{"text":38655,"start":14575,"end":14637},"Aber ja, deswegen sind wir für uns auf Deutsch gegangen Und ich fand es nur, also ich hab, wie gesagt, da halt wenig Englisch abseits der Bühne mitbekommen.",{"sentences":38657,"speaker":785,"num_words":37517,"start":14640,"end":14648},[38658],{"text":38659,"start":14640,"end":14648},"Also gar kein Englisch.",{"sentences":38661,"speaker":126,"num_words":37528,"start":14648,"end":14672},[38662,38664],{"text":38663,"start":14648,"end":14659},"Ich auch gar nicht.",{"text":38665,"start":14659,"end":14672},"Also ich bin da auch",{"sentences":38667,"speaker":147,"num_words":38670,"start":14674,"end":14701},[38668],{"text":38669,"start":14674,"end":14701},"Und deswegen halt son bisschen die Frage, okay, ist ist das richtig?",12,{"sentences":38672,"speaker":785,"num_words":38682,"start":14701,"end":15043},[38673,38675,38677,38679,38681],{"text":38674,"start":14701,"end":14766},"Weil ich fand das, weil ich war auch interessant, was Du gerade gesagt hast, Philipp, so diese bisschen so wie son Klassentreffen, dass es diesen Aspekt hat.",{"text":38676,"start":14766,"end":14848},"Und das war ja uns ja auch wichtig, ne, weil wir gesagt haben, hey, wir also wir machen die Programmier Con, wir sind die Programmierbar, alle kennen uns, weil wir einen deutschen Podcast machen, so.",{"text":38678,"start":14848,"end":14924},"Und das wär 'n starker Bruch, wenn wir halt jetzt sagen, okay, ist auf Englisch, weil unsere Community eigentlich ja zu 100 Prozent Deutsch ist, hätten wir jetzt gesagt, so.",{"text":38680,"start":14924,"end":15041},"Und das ist natürlich dann auch irgendwie diese dieses Klassentreffen oder dieses Intimitätsfeeling, weil man dann 'n bisschen diese Natürlichkeit noch mal drin hat, irgendwie stärker hervorhebt, was bei uns sehr gut funktioniert hat und aber würde ich auch sagen, auch auf der Dekompile sehr gut funktioniert hat.",{"text":1052,"start":15041,"end":15043},141,{"sentences":38684,"speaker":785,"num_words":37780,"start":15045,"end":15085},[38685,38686],{"text":1052,"start":15045,"end":15046},{"text":38687,"start":15050,"end":15085},"Deswegen also ja, macht da glaube ich dann auch noch mal ein bisschen den 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in im Talksetting.",{"text":1052,"start":15240,"end":15241},{"sentences":38711,"speaker":147,"num_words":37645,"start":15244,"end":15253},[38712],{"text":38713,"start":15244,"end":15253},"Habt ihr gefragt, ob ihr",{"sentences":38715,"speaker":126,"num_words":38670,"start":15253,"end":15280},[38716,38718],{"text":38717,"start":15253,"end":15260},"das machen könnt?",{"text":38719,"start":15260,"end":15280},"Also haben die auch klar gesagt, Englisch bitte oder?",{"sentences":38721,"speaker":147,"num_words":38728,"start":15280,"end":15436},[38722,38724,38726],{"text":38723,"start":15280,"end":15377},"Also mit Tobi meine ich im Vorfeld haben wir es mal andiskutiert und haben gesagt, ne, eigentlich ist es ja bei uns Deutsch und da war dann die die Ansage, dass halt das ganze Programm auf Englisch ist.",{"text":38725,"start":15379,"end":15422},"Vor Ort lustigerweise, Johannes hatte dann auch noch mal kurz vorher gefragt, sag mal, macht ne?",{"text":38727,"start":15422,"end":15436},"Macht ihr 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programmierbar.",{"text":38772,"start":15767,"end":15792},"Philipp, das müssen wir vielleicht auch noch mal ganz kurz ausholen.",{"text":38774,"start":15792,"end":15861},"Wenn Du schon gerade mal hier im Podcast bist, auch wenn wir mal 'n bisschen abschweifen, aber Du hast ja Du warst ja aktiv mit und hast Entwicklerheld.",{"text":38776,"start":15861,"end":15905},"Ich bin immer unsicher, ob's das noch gibt, ob ihr das noch Ihr macht's nicht aktiver.",{"sentences":38778,"speaker":1125,"num_words":785,"start":15905,"end":15912},[38779],{"text":38780,"start":15905,"end":15912},"Ja, doch,",{"sentences":38782,"speaker":147,"num_words":37512,"start":15912,"end":15957},[38783,38785,38786,38788],{"text":38784,"start":15912,"end":15925},"das gibt's auch noch.",{"text":1052,"start":15928,"end":15929},{"text":38787,"start":15929,"end":15944},"Genau, also Entwicklerheld eine Plattform.",{"text":38789,"start":15948,"end":15957},"Pitch Du mal schnell?",{"sentences":38791,"speaker":126,"num_words":38231,"start":15960,"end":16175},[38792,38794,38796,38798,38800],{"text":38793,"start":15960,"end":15967},"Ja, pass auf.",{"text":38795,"start":15967,"end":16025},"Also Entwickler ist eine Plattform, da kann man als Firma Coding Challenges auch draufpacken und kann quasi seinen Entwickleralltag son bisschen darstellen.",{"text":38797,"start":16028,"end":16074},"Also man, ihr benutzt jetzt ganz viel, wie heißt's, Flatter, dann könntet ihr sone Flatterchallenge machen.",{"text":38799,"start":16074,"end":16129},"Wie sieht denn son und son kleinen Schnipsel, sone kleine Codingaufgabe, zu zeigen, was mache ich denn eigentlich dann bei Lotum?",{"text":38801,"start":16133,"end":16175},"Weil das Lotum zum Beispiel dasteht und keiner weiß, was ihr für eine Technologie benutzt, außer ich vielleicht.",{"sentences":38803,"speaker":126,"num_words":38808,"start":16178,"end":16284},[38804,38806],{"text":38805,"start":16178,"end":16230},"Genau und 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da?",{"text":38820,"start":16443,"end":16454},"Was was programmier ich da?",{"text":38822,"start":16454,"end":16463},"Wie sieht das aus?",{"text":38824,"start":16463,"end":16505},"Und sonst hab ich mich auch im Studium auch immer gefragt, was mach ich denn da als Entwickler?",62,{"sentences":38827,"speaker":126,"num_words":37678,"start":16505,"end":16665},[38828,38830,38831,38833,38835],{"text":38829,"start":16505,"end":16527},"Was wie sieht denn sone typische Codingaufgabe aus?",{"text":1052,"start":16529,"end":16530},{"text":38832,"start":16530,"end":16578},"Und das war so die Idee am Anfang, die ist sogar gestartet mit, was heutzutage vielleicht sogar geht, Outsourcing.",{"text":38834,"start":16582,"end":16605},"Also wir haben gesagt, alle Firmen entwickeln testgetrieben, ja.",{"text":38836,"start":16605,"end":16665},"Wir lagern einfach die Tests auf die Plattform und das Entwickeln können ja dann auch Studenten oder alle machen und dann sind wir 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ja.",{"text":16820,"start":16816,"end":16819},{"text":38860,"start":16822,"end":16869},"Genau und ihr beiden seid aber jetzt seit ein, 2, 3, wie viel Jahren seid ihr 2?",{"sentences":38862,"speaker":126,"num_words":37558,"start":16869,"end":16889},[38863],{"text":38864,"start":16869,"end":16889},"Seit 24, Anfang 24 bei der Ach",{"sentences":38866,"speaker":785,"num_words":37929,"start":16889,"end":16921},[38867,38869],{"text":38868,"start":16889,"end":16902},"so, ich sag 24 Jahre.",{"text":38870,"start":16902,"end":16921},"Also ich kann's vielleicht nicht nass.",{"sentences":38872,"speaker":126,"num_words":38882,"start":16924,"end":17136},[38873,38875,38876,38878,38880],{"text":38874,"start":16924,"end":16946},"Ich ich kann ja ganz kurz die Geschichte dazu erzählen.",{"text":1052,"start":16946,"end":16949},{"text":38877,"start":16949,"end":16987},"Es sind nicht nur Illla Bauer, sondern erzähl mal so bitte die Geschichte, meine Geschichte.",{"text":38879,"start":16989,"end":17117},"Wir haben im Studium uns kennengelernt, haben zusammen irgendwie alle Informatik oder Medieninformatik studiert und dann haben wir in unserer Freizeit, es ging los in der Snooker Halle, haben wir so Dienstleistungen gemacht, da haben wir Seminar Abplanungssoftware für den Paritätischen Landesverband gebaut.",{"text":38881,"start":17117,"end":17136},"Das haben alles Felix und ihr ja gemacht.",77,{"sentences":38884,"speaker":126,"num_words":38651,"start":17136,"end":17453},[38885,38887,38889,38891,38893],{"text":38886,"start":17136,"end":17232},"Ich bin einfach nur dazugestoßen und hab immer gedacht, Mensch, die die die machen wir mal so viel und ich will das unbedingt auch können und die haben mich immer total gepusht und ich wollte unbedingt genauso gut werden wie die.",{"text":38888,"start":17232,"end":17350},"Hab mich dann mit immer in diesen Stucker Club gesetzt, das hatten wir hinten irgendwo, der hat zwar son riesengroßer Stucker Tisch und dann waren noch so quasi Bürotische und dann saßen wir zusammen, haben gecodeet und haben diese Dienstleistungsprojekte gemacht.",{"text":38890,"start":17350,"end":17380},"Und dann haben wir irgendwann gedacht, ah, dann ist irgendwie ein Projekt weggefallen.",{"text":38892,"start":17383,"end":17405},"Das ist ja, das muss ja anderen Unternehmen genauso gehen.",{"text":38894,"start":17405,"end":17453},"Dann haben wir halt über diese Outsourcing Plattform gedacht nachgedacht, weil man immer so Peaks und so was hat.",{"sentences":38896,"speaker":126,"num_words":38186,"start":17455,"end":17717},[38897,38899,38900,38902,38904],{"text":38898,"start":17455,"end":17564},"Dann haben wir in unserem Abschlussarbeiten dazu geschrieben und dann haben wir das ausgegründet, haben 'n Investment eingesammelt, haben's umbenannt auf Entwickler hält und dann Wir waren 5 Gründer, also das war eher Bauer, ich, Felix, Daniel und Jakob.",{"text":3579,"start":17567,"end":17568},{"text":38901,"start":17571,"end":17601},"Und genau, die Geschichte erzählt ja auch der immer in seinem Pitch.",{"text":38903,"start":17601,"end":17630},"Ich bin bei der ProgrammierCon hat der auch ja kurz angeteast.",{"text":38905,"start":17634,"end":17717},"Und was da vielleicht noch als Überleitung, wenn wir wieder zurückwollen zur zur Konferenz, der DeCompighter hat er den Vortrag auch gehalten und dann geht man danach in den Product Track.",{"sentences":38907,"speaker":126,"num_words":38918,"start":17720,"end":18110},[38908,38910,38912,38914,38916],{"text":38909,"start":17720,"end":17849},"Und im Product Track hat der Mirko Seifert, der ist auch der CEO von Dev Boost, in den Vortrag gehalten, die bauen auch grad 'n Produkt und er hat gesagt, er hat 'n Vortrag gehalten, der war total cool, total emotional, hat gesagt, 10 Gründe, warum man kein Unternehmen gründen sollte.",{"text":38911,"start":17852,"end":17930},"Und es waren wirklich alle 10, also zum Beispiel, man verliert seine Freunde, ist bei mir passiert, man verliert man verliert Lebenszeit, 5 Jahre 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leid.",{"sentences":38987,"speaker":147,"num_words":38343,"start":19116,"end":19200},[38988,38990,38992,38994,38996],{"text":38989,"start":19116,"end":19130},"Nee, alles bestens, genau.",{"text":38991,"start":19132,"end":19153},"Und hab ich eben schon Danke an Tobi gesagt?",{"text":38993,"start":19156,"end":19159},"Ich nicht.",{"text":38995,"start":19159,"end":19176},"Was ist denn sehr stillder.",{"text":38997,"start":19180,"end":19200},"Vielen Dank, dass wir ja auch eingeladen wurden.",{"sentences":38999,"speaker":147,"num_words":38825,"start":19200,"end":19365},[39000,39002,39004,39006,39008],{"text":39001,"start":19200,"end":19219},"Ach ja genau, da kamen wir her.",{"text":39003,"start":19219,"end":19297},"Und mit Entwicklerheld haben wir damals, glaube ich Also ihr mochtet auch damals schon die programmierbar und dann haben wir immer miteinander gesprochen und hab damals überlegt, ob man irgendwas zusammen machen könnte.",{"text":39005,"start":19300,"end":19342},"Und so ist 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