[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":24114},["ShallowReactive",2],{"\u002Fpodcast\u002Fnews-ai-25-26-fable-5-spacex-uebernimmt-cursor-apple-intelligence-und-gemini":3},{"podcast":4,"pickOfTheDayCount":68,"speakerCount":69,"relatedPodcasts":70,"transcript":71},{"id":5,"published_on":6,"type":7,"number":8,"title":9,"slug":10,"description":11,"transcript":12,"audio_url":13,"apple_url":12,"google_url":12,"spotify_url":12,"youtube_url":12,"cover_image":14,"banner_image":12,"speakers":26,"members":27,"picks_of_the_day":64,"tags":65,"tagsPrepared":66,"speakersPrepared":67},"d89c9500-f674-4350-bd22-766c02cfa3c3","2026-06-18T04:00:00.000Z","news","AI 25\u002F26","Fable 5 \u002F\u002F SpaceX übernimmt Cursor \u002F\u002F Apple Intelligence und Gemini","news-ai-25-26-fable-5-spacex-uebernimmt-cursor-apple-intelligence-und-gemini","\u003Cp data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"618\">\u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.anthropic.com\u002Fnews\u002Fclaude-fable-5-mythos-5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anthropic veröffentlicht Mythos und Fable 5\u003C\u002Fa>, nur, \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.anthropic.com\u002Fnews\u002Ffable-mythos-access\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">um es kurz danach wieder abzuschalten\u003C\u002Fa>. Außerdem wurde die \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.golem.de\u002Fnews\u002Fki-coding-start-up-spacex-uebernimmt-cursor-fuer-60-milliarden-us-dollar-2606-209839.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Agentic IDE Cursor von SpaceX übernommen\u003C\u002Fa> und wir haben neue technische Insights zu Apple Intelligence und Gemini. Eine Folge über KI-Regulierung, milliardenschwere Deals und die Frage, wie sich die Grenzen zwischen KI-Modellen und den Produkten, in denen sie eingesetzt werden, immer weiter verwischen.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"618\">In dieser Folge sprechen Jan und Philipp über das, was inzwischen als „Fable Gate“ diskutiert wird: Warum die US-Regierung den Export des Modells untersagt hat, welche Rolle \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fcambridgeanalytica.org\u002Fai-machine-learning\u002Famazon-anthropic-fable-5-export-ban-white-house-51104\u002F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sicherheitsbedenken\u003C\u002Fa> und Jailbreaks dabei spielen und was das Ganze über die Abhängigkeit von einzelnen KI-Anbietern verrät. Außerdem werfen die beiden einen Blick darauf, welche Auswirkungen solche Entscheidungen auf Unternehmen und Entwicklungsteams haben könnten.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp data-start=\"620\" data-end=\"1176\">Danach geht es um das AI-Coding-Startup Cursor. Gemeinsam analysieren Jan und Philipp die Übernahme durch SpaceX, sprechen über die milliardenschwere Bewertung und diskutieren, warum Entwicklungswerkzeuge zunehmend zum strategischen Faktor im Wettlauf um die besten KI-Modelle werden. Außerdem schauen sie auf die neuen Produkte, die Cursor auf seiner \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fcursor.com\u002Fcompile\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Compile-Konferenz\u003C\u002Fa> vorgestellt hat – von \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.explainx.ai\u002Fblog\u002Fcursor-origin-git-hosting-github-alternative-ai-agents-2026\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">einem agentenfreundlichen GitHub-Konkurrenten namens Origin\u003C\u002Fa> bis hin zu einer eigenen Mobile-App.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp data-start=\"1178\" data-end=\"1687\">Zum Abschluss folgt ein \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Farstechnica.com\u002Fapple\u002F2026\u002F06\u002Fapple-says-its-ai-is-still-private-even-when-its-running-on-googles-servers\u002F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nachtrag zur WWDC\u003C\u002Fa>: Apple hat \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fmachinelearning.apple.com\u002Fresearch\u002Fintroducing-third-generation-of-apple-foundation-models\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">weitere Details zu seinen neuen Foundation Models\u003C\u002Fa> veröffentlicht. Jan beleuchtet, welche Modelle künftig direkt auf iPhone und Mac laufen, welche Aufgaben in die Cloud ausgelagert werden und warum Google dabei eine größere Rolle spielt, als es die Keynote zunächst vermuten ließ. Außerdem geht es um \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fmachinelearning.apple.com\u002Fresearch\u002Fpruning-large-language\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">die technischen Tricks\u003C\u002Fa>, mit denen Apple große Modelle auf vergleichsweise kleinen Geräten nutzbar machen möchte.\u003C\u002Fp>",null,"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.buzzsprout.com\u002F176239\u002Fepisodes\u002F19361118-news-ai-25-26-fable-5-spacex-ubernimmt-cursor-apple-intelligence-und-gemini.mp3",{"id":15,"title":16,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":17,"filename_download":18,"metadata":19,"type":20,"filesize":21,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":22,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":23,"uploaded_on":24,"folder":12,"width":25,"height":25,"charset":12,"duration":12},"aaa57982-43c3-49ae-89a4-2c9388781ad7","AI News Asset 25","aaa57982-43c3-49ae-89a4-2c9388781ad7.jpg","AI News-Asset 25.jpg",{},"image\u002Fjpeg","1582765","2026-06-17T08:43:13.680Z","11a655b6-bcfc-4c6c-a13c-68189e38edb9","2026-06-17T08:43:13.675Z",1500,[],[28,46],{"member":29},{"id":30,"first_name":31,"last_name":32,"occupation":33,"description":34,"normal_image":35},"47099351-508c-44d9-a2a2-855181c72ee8","Jan Gregor","Emge-Triebel","\u002F\u002F programmier.bar Tech Community Lead \u002F\u002F Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Jan ist ein echter Technik-Fan mit einer facettenreichen Karriere, die sich über Web-, Mobile-App-Entwicklung und DevOps erstreckt. Dank seiner vielfältigen Rollen – vom Entwickler über den Teamleiter bis hin zum Vice President Development – verfügt Jan über einen großen Erfahrungsschatz in der Softwareentwicklung und Developer Advocacy.\u003Cbr>Seine Leidenschaften jenseits der Technik reichen von Tauchgängen an exotischen Orten über das Eintauchen in digitale wie analoge Spiele bis hin zum Abtauchen in gelungene Plot-Twists in Büchern und Filmen.\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":36,"title":37,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":38,"filename_download":39,"metadata":40,"type":20,"filesize":41,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":42,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":43,"uploaded_on":44,"folder":12,"width":45,"height":45,"charset":12,"duration":12},"ef7c0ccb-a2b5-48a0-8261-c8bbfffd917b","Jan CD","ef7c0ccb-a2b5-48a0-8261-c8bbfffd917b.jpg","Jan_CD.jpg",{},"649400","2024-07-26T09:26:17.846Z","e97179d2-51b3-4deb-828f-9524091441f5","2024-07-26T09:26:17.710Z",1024,{"member":47},{"id":48,"first_name":49,"last_name":50,"occupation":51,"description":52,"normal_image":53},"62c42a42-97d3-4ddc-8532-1f92db0893fb","Philipp","Schmid","Senior AI Developer Relations Engineer bei Google DeepMind","\u003Cp>Philipp Schmid ist Senior AI Developer Relations Engineer bei Google DeepMind und arbeitet an Gemini und Gemma. Er hat es sich zur Mission gemacht, Entwickler:innen dabei zu unterstützen künstliche Intelligenz verantwortungsvoll einzusetzen.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Zuvor war er Technical Lead und Machine Learning Engineer bei Hugging Face, einer Firma, die gutes Machine Learning durch Open Source und Open Science demokratisieren möchte. Der junge Nürnberger und AWS Machine Learning Hero hat sozusagen die deutsche Variante von ChatGPT entwickelt und darüber \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.philschmid.de\u002Fintroducing-igel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">auf seinem Blog\u003C\u002Fa> geschrieben. Checkt sie im \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fhuggingface.co\u002Fspaces\u002Fphilschmid\u002Figel-playground\">Playground\u003C\u002Fa> aus!\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":54,"title":55,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":56,"filename_download":57,"metadata":58,"type":59,"filesize":60,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":61,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":43,"uploaded_on":62,"folder":12,"width":63,"height":63,"charset":12,"duration":12},"8f9a35f2-0a36-4106-b91f-24aff468cba9","Philipp Schmid Profile","8f9a35f2-0a36-4106-b91f-24aff468cba9.png","Philipp_Schmid_profile.png",{},"image\u002Fpng","1995479","2023-04-14T13:49:23.764Z","2023-04-14T13:49:23.426Z",2048,[],[],[],[],473,198,[],{"id":72,"service":73,"supported_features":74,"speakers":77,"raw_response":83},"4bdf053e-5415-4089-ba85-c8157661f1a6","deepgram",[75,76],"timestamps","diarization",[78,81],{"identifier":79,"name":80},"0","Jan",{"identifier":82,"name":49},"1",{"metadata":84,"results":98},{"transaction_key":85,"request_id":86,"sha256":87,"created":88,"duration":89,"channels":90,"models":91,"model_info":93},"deprecated","019ed5f8-9cc3-71d1-aac3-6c32ab97f0d2","84503503611cdc9b9523141652f86097d38fda0b71f9989a85845b2b10c12ec8","2026-06-17T14:25:06.505Z",2013.2936,1,[92],"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3",{"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3":94},{"name":95,"version":96,"arch":97},"2-general-nova","2024-05-09.3071","nova-2",{"channels":99,"utterances":16786},[100],{"alternatives":101},[102],{"transcript":103,"confidence":104,"words":105,"paragraphs":15988},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen bei 1 neuen AI News Folge heute in der Ausgabe 25 des Jahres 20 26. Mit mir hier im Studio ist wie immer Philipp Schmid. Hallo Philipp, schön, dass Du da bist. Hallo. Sehr? Das 1. Mal glaubt, dass wir was zusammen aufnehmen, oder? Nein, es ist nur schon Jahre her. Ich hab das vorhin auch überlegt, als es es gab mal einen Moment, als Dennis, glaub ich, in Elternzeit war und Fabi irgendwie im Urlaub oder so, das muss so, weiß ich nicht, 20 23 oder so was gewesen, also das ist schon ewig, ewig lange her. Da haben wir das auch schon mal gemacht. Ja, weil für alle, die sich wundern, dass hier weder Dennis noch Fabi sitzen, Dennis ist im Urlaub, Kitesurfen irgendwo in Afrika oder so und was Fabi macht, hab ich ehrlicherweise keine Ahnung. So, der wird auch im Urlaub sein, aber er ist auf alle Fälle heute nicht hier. Wir wollen ein bisschen sprechen über Fable, den Release beziehungsweise den Nicht Release. Wir sprechen ein bisschen über Cursor, das sich zusammen mit SpaceX grade in astronomische Höhen bewegt und wir sprechen ein bisschen über Apples Foundation Modelle und alles, was wir da vielleicht noch so im Nachgang der WWDC zugehört haben. Ja, da würd ich sagen, wir steigen mal direkt mit dem dem Gate, so hab ich das auf auf LinkedIn irgendwie schon betitelt gelesen. Steigen wir ein, ist ja alles 'n Gate heutzutage. So, wir machen einmal den den Kurzabriss, dann können wir vielleicht im Detail noch mal reinschauen. Also am neunten Juni, das war letzte Woche Dienstag, hat Antropic, Fable 5 und Mitheus released. Benchmark natürlich wie immer megacool, 10 Prozentpunkte im SWR Benz mehr als Opos, 10 Prozent gesteigert im Terminal Bench. Alles megacool, aber diese ganzen Benchmarks sind wahrscheinlich zweitrangig und hinfällig. Da sprechen wir gleich drüber, weil ganze 3 Tage später, am zwölften Juni, war's das dann auch schon wieder mit Fable und Fable musste abgeschaltet werden. Warum? Weil die amerikanische Regierung gesagt hat so, boah, dieses Fable, das ist so sehr schwierige Software und das stellt ein Sicherheitsrisiko dar, wenn wir das exportieren und andere Nationen zugänglich machen und deshalb kann das quasi nur in US amerikanischen Händen bleiben und hat daraufhin Entropic untersagt, im Prinzip aus ausländischen Kunden und auch in den Vereinigten Staaten Ausländern zur Verfügung zu stellen, was auch in Tropics eigenen Mitarbeiter mit einschließt, so. Und weil Tropic dann gesagt hat, na ja, wir haben jetzt auf die Schnelle keinerlei Möglichkeit zu kontrollieren, mit welcher Staatsbürgerschaft da unsere Kunden irgendwie einhergehen, haben sie das kurzerhand für alle wieder abgeschaltet. So. Worum ging's da genau? So hundertprozentig genau kann man das gar nicht sagen, weil die amerikanische Regierung für diese Entscheidung im Prinzip niemandem Rechenschaft schuldet. So, sie kann das ad hoc selber entscheiden, da gibt's auch keinen offiziellen Widerspruchsprozess oder so was. Es sind jetzt wohl zwar Leute von den Tropic in Washington, irgendwie da mit Regierungsvertretern zu sprechen, aber im Prinzip ist das eine Entscheidung, ich sag mal so, nach Lust und Laune. Und es dreht sich son bisschen diese Frage, wie einfach und schwerwiegend so Fable 5 zu Jailbreaking ist. Also was En tropic ja gemacht hat, ist ähnlich wie Mytheus, was sie ja als so zu powerful für die Allgemeinheit irgendwie abgestempelt haben, zu sagen, na ja, wir bauen hier son paar Guardrails ein und wenn Du schwierige, gefährliche, illegale, wie auch immer Anfragen an das Model stellst, klickst Du im Prinzip nur in Anführungszeichen die Antwort von Opus 4 8. Es gibt quasi den Fallback auf ein weniger capeable Model und ja, das war so ihr Workaround quasi, dieses Problem zu umgehen. Wie bei vielen von diesen Modellen, wenn man kreativ genug ist, kann man da halt Jailbreaks befinden und irgendwie auch diese Guardrails umgehen. Deutschland diesen einen, dieses eine Beispiel, was so auf Twitter son bisschen kursiert ist, war so, na ja, wenn Du nutzen willst, irgendwie Sicherheitslücken zu finden, ähnlich wie das ja mit Mythos schon länger gemacht wird, dann wirfst Du ihm einfach die Code Base hin und sagst Du, hey, helfen wir doch mal, diesen Code zu fixen, so. Einfach nur fixedus Code. Und dann findet er natürlich son paar Run Time Bugs, aber halt auch Security Exploits, so. Und das war im Prinzip schon alles. Das bisschen perfide an dieser Sache ist, dass der Tipp dazu an die US Regierung wohl aus Amazons Cyber Security Research Lab gekommen ist. Und das ist natürlich schon son bisschen komisch, weil Amazon ist ja meines Wissens nach immer noch der größte Einzelinvestor in Intropic, so und dass sie denen da jetzt quasi so den den Riegel vorschieben und da so an die Karre fahren, das ist natürlich 'n bisschen schwierig. So. Antropic beruft sich darauf, dass sie sagen, na ja, es gibt keinen hundertprozentigen Security keinen hundertprozentigen Safecard gegen Jailbreak. Die Jailbreak, die hier demonstriert worden sind und auch die anderen, die so kursieren, funktionieren auch in vielen der anderen Modellen, die da draußen so sind, also auch in GPT 5 5 gibt's da Demos, für dass sie da funktionieren. Und das wär jetzt quasi nicht gravierend genug, als dass das so so diesen diesen Bann irgendwie rechtfertigen könnte. Ja, das vielleicht mal so die die 3 Sekunden Summary und Dreihundertste hast Du Dreihundertste 300 Sekunden. Also hast Du die Möglichkeit, Faible 5 zu testen während den 3 Tagen, wo es da war? Ja, tatsächlich. Ich hab's auch benutzt. Ich hab auch sehr schnell mein mein Token Limit Okay. Dadurch aufgebraucht im Prinzip. Ich hab so ganz banale Designsachen gemacht, muss ich sagen, weil man das ja auch in Cloud Design schon nutzen konnte. Und weil Design so mit einem meiner größten Schwächen ist, hab ich gesagt, okay, je mehr Intelligence ich da drauf werfen kann, umso besser. Es hat auch echt coole Ergebnisse geliefert, muss ich sagen, aber es war halt schon deutlich langsamer als Opos vorher und wie gesagt, also mein Token Limit war nach anderthalb Features, die ich gebaut hab, war's halt auch einfach weg. Vielleicht noch ein Satz zur Einleitung, weil ich gesagt hab, diese ganzen Benchmarks sind vielleicht jetzt hinfällig. Es kann natürlich sein, dass die Lösung auf diese Situation ist, dass bei seinen Guardrails irgendwie nachschärfen muss und in mehr oder anderen Fällen quasi diesen Fallback auf Opus 4 5 dann bringen muss Und das kann natürlich dann auch die Benchmark Ergebnisse wieder ändern, ja. Also alle Benchmark Ergebnisse, die wir zu Release gesehen haben, würde ich jetzt noch mal mit Vorsicht genießen. Sollte man vielleicht dann, wenn es wieder verfügbar ist, sich noch mal anschauen. Ja. So, Philipp, dein Take. Ja, es, also ich war beeindruckt beim Modell und ich hab auch sehr viel positiv gelesen. Und ich weiß nicht, ob Du's am Anfang erwähnt hast, aber als es released war, haben sie ein paar, also auch mit veröffentlicht und das war jetzt doppelt so teuer wie Opus 4 Punkt 8. Also deswegen wahrscheinlich auch mehr. Und der eigentliche Plan war am Anfang, dass man das bis zweiundzwanzigsten Juni 'n Cloud Code ja zur Verfügung hat oder halt eine Cloud Subscriptions und danach dafür API Pricing zahlen müsste. Schade, dass es nicht mehr verfügbar ist. Mich hätt sehr gerne interessiert, wie sich das alles ausarbeitet, ob dann, also wie Leute damit umgehen und es nutzen werden. Weil wir hatten, glaub ich, in der letzten Folge das Thema mit, hey, AI Kosten werden immer höher und Unternehmen fahren halt schon wieder zurück und haben haben die die Leute zu früh entlassen. Und hey, jeder bekommt irgendwie, keine Ahnung, 3000 Dollar und darf die dann ausgeben für whatever AI, dass er halt irgendwie braucht. Deswegen schade, dass da, sag ich mal, die US Regierung uns son bisschen insights weggenommen hat. Und an sich find ich's 'n schwieriges Thema, weil ich mein, Antopic ist ja dafür bekannt, dass sie immer sehr stark dafür Werbung machen, dass alles Risiko ist und wir mehr brauchen. Und jetzt werden sie irgendwie reguliert. Und vor 2 Monaten hatten sie ihr gesagt, hey, wir können Mythos nicht releasen, ist zu gefährlich. Jetzt haben sie Mythos doch released unter, aber mit diesen extra Guardrails außenrum. Und ich mein, wir haben ja, wir wissen ja alle, dass Guardrails nicht 100 Prozent funktionieren. Also selbst wenn sie jetzt irgendwie was zusätzlich machen für irgendwas im Coding Bereich, dann wirst Du schon wieder irgendwelche Leute haben, die das dann irgendwie versuchen zu umgehen. Klar, der Großteil wird dafür irgendwie nicht verwendet, aber dann auf der anderen Seite weiß ich halt auch wieder nicht, ob also ob das das Ziel davon ist. Also wenn ich 'n Modell hab, was an sich extrem gut ist, was zweimal so viel kostet, aber ich nie garantieren kann bei meinem Prompt, den ich benutze, ob das wirklich dann das normale Modell ist oder nicht. Und man weiß ja, egal ob ich jetzt Cloud nutze oder GPT oder Gemini, ich muss immer gewiss 'n bisschen anders promptden und ich lern auch 'n bisschen, wie ich mit den Modellen umgehe. Und das, wenn ich dann sone Art hab, wo man nie genau weiß, was wirklich kommt, ist es schon schwieriger. Also ich bin mal gespannt, wie's weitergeht, weil wir wissen alle, die Performance wird nicht schlechter. Und ich bin mir sicher, dass Open AI oder dass Gemini alle nachholen oder aufholen oder dass selbst, sag ich mal, Open Waidts Modelle zu dem Punkt halt irgendwann kommen werden. Und dann ist halt die Frage, wie man damit umgeht und was man bis dahin halt lernen oder machen kann. Eine der Antworten von war ja auch, dass Sie von Anfang an gesagt haben, wir führen hier diese 30 Tage Data Retention Policy ein, die's ja so vorher nicht gab, quasi selbst, wenn Du einen Jailbreak findest oder irgendeinen auf dieses Modell quasi fährst, dass sie das im Worst Case im Nachhinein feststellen können und dann halt irgendwie deinen Account bestrikten, bannen, isolieren, wie auch immer irgendwie können. Und das war ja auch schon Grund genug für die ein oder andere große Corporate Kunden irgendwie zu sagen, so, das nutzen wir immer erst mal nicht, weil wir halt mit dieser Data Retention irgendwie nicht einverstanden sollen. Aber ich sag mal, wenn wir bei dem Beispiel bleiben, was irgendwo halt geteilt wird, wo man nicht sicher ist, ob das wirklich stimmt oder nicht mit, hey, fix und dann findet der Security. Das ist eine ganz normale Entwickleraufgabe. Also ich weiß nicht, wenn ich irgendwo an 'nem großen Projekt arbeite oder war's 'n komplexes Projekt arbeite, sei es selbst sogar 'n Betriebssystem, weil am Ende wollen wir AI dafür nutzen, sag ich mal, mehr oder weniger. Und wenn die AI gut ist, diese Bugs zu fixen, dann ist das ja, Du hast ja immer die gute Seite und die schlechte Seite. Und es wär ja schlecht, wenn beide Seiten irgendwie, sag ich mal, dadurch reguliert werden würden, weil die böse Seite ist normalerweise, also in dem Fall böse in Anführungszeichen. Aber klar, die Leute, die dich hacken wollen oder damit irgendwas erbußen wollen, die sind meistens offener gegenüber solchen als die guten Seiten, weil die gute Seite möchte natürlich in den Service bleiben oder halt nichts irgendwas Falsches machen. Das heißt, das ist ja doppelt schlecht in dem Sinne, wenn wir da Also ich bin ich bin's spannend. Ich find's auf jeden Fall interessant zu verfolgen. Ich glaub, das wird sich in den nächsten ein, 2 Wochen einiges ergeben, weil ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass das einfach unterm Tisch verschwindet und das Modell nie released wird oder was Sie da machen. Vielleicht nennen Sie's auch einfach Opus 4 Punkt 9 und keine Ahnung, Pricing oder erhöht oder so was. Also ja, ich meine, auf der anderen Sicht ist ja auch wieder noch vielleicht als letzter Punkt interessant, hätten Sie's nicht released, hätten Sie's ja intern weiter nutzen können. Also an Tropic oder andere Unternehmen könnten ja das Modell, wenn sie's trainiert haben und wenn das als Risiko eingestuft werden würde zum Release, ja einfach intern nutzen, sich dann ja selber zu verbessern. Klar, kommst Du irgendwann in die Gefahr, wir können das nicht finanzieren und wir brauchen Kunden von außen und wir brauchen Feedback von außen und wir brauchen mehr Evaluierungen und alles andere. Aber ich weiß nicht, ob die sich dann 'n bisschen aufn aufn aufn Finger gerade beißen, dass sie das schon released haben. Also was ja auch grade jetzt hier in Europa so Teil von dem Diskurs war, da ging's wieder Abhängigkeit von US Tech Konzernen. Da ging's oh oh mein Gott, mein mein Businessmodell ist irgendwie gefährdet, weil ich jetzt hier irgendwie Access verloren hab. Und da, also ich hab das gelesen so auf verschiedenen Social Media Kanälen und dachte mir auch nur so, wenn wenn das dein Problem ist, dann hast Du halt irgendwas grundsätzlich falsch verstanden. Ich glaube, das muss man vielleicht auch mal sagen, so also a, wenn dein Business gefährdet ist, weil 'n Model, was irgendwie 72 Stunden da war, jetzt nicht mehr da ist, dann hast Du vielleicht irgendwie aufs falsche Pferd gesetzt und nicht so gut irgendwie hier Risikoabwägung betrieben. Und auch ansonsten, glaube ich, also so so gern ich einzelne dieser Models irgendwie mag oder auch irgendwie super cool finde, am Ende muss es ja für dich aus aus Business Sicht ja eigentlich sone Commodity sein, ja? Also genauso wie wenn jetzt, weiß ich nicht, heute, weiß ich nicht, Microsoft SQL sagen würde so, ja, machen wir nicht mehr, gibt's nicht mehr in Europa, ja? Dann musst Du halt irgendwie auf Postress oder Mysequuqueline wechseln können oder keine Ahnung, ja? Und genauso, wenn jetzt in Tromic morgen sagen würde, wir machen gar keine Modelle mehr in Europa, dann muss es dir ja irgendwie möglich sein, dass Du halt sagst, na ja, wir nutzen halt irgendwas anderes, aber es hängt nicht 100 Prozent von unserem Business daran, dass dieses eine Modell von diesem einen speziellen Anbieter irgendwie da ist. Ja, es klappt alles 'n bisschen schwierig, weil wir halt in soner sehr schnelllebigen technologischen Welt sind. Ich mein, wenn man da, keine Ahnung, gehst Du 15 Jahre zurück und stell dir vor, Oracle sagt, ja, Du darfst Java Enterprise nicht mehr in Europa nutzen. Dann werden ja auch ganz viele Unternehmen erst mal. Und klar, ist das kein guter Vergleich, weil das eine ist eine Sprache, das andere ist irgendwie 'n Produkt oder irgendwie so was, aber Du hast ja trotzdem Lizenzen für für das gekauft. Und ich glaub, es bleibt einfach abzuwarten und ich geh davon aus, dass man mehr davon in der Zukunft sieht. Also eher als eher weniger. Also ich glaub nicht, dass wir regulatorisch oder gesellschaftlich da jetzt sagen, hey, okay, das war jetzt einmal der Fall, Modelle sind halt so und dann mal schauen, wo's hingeht. Also ich glaub, man wird, nee, die Welt wird eher verrückter, als dass sie stabiler wird, umso besser die KI Modelle werden. Und umso besser die werden, umso andere Risiken kommen ab und umso eher muss man halt auch Prioritäten anpassen oder andere Dinge. Und dann ist sind's, glaub, keine schwere Entscheidung, die auf Unternehmen zukommen. Weil wenn der der Konkurrent das halt irgendwie einführt und dann alle Kunden da hinspringen und man halt selber 'n bisschen langsamer ist und vorsichtiger, dann ist es es wird schwierig. Ja, das ist sicherlich eine Risikoabwägung, aber ich glaube halt, also ganz ganz simpel gesagt, so mein Mitleid hält sich son bisschen in Grenzen für die Fälle. Weil ich glaub, wie Du sagst, ich glaub, als Unternehmen bist Du's dir halt irgendwie schon schuldig, da son bisschen Contingency planning zu machen, ja. Und halt nicht dann mit runtergelassener Hose dazustehen, wenn das passiert, weil ich bin voll badyos wird irgendwie wieder passieren, ja. Ob das jetzt aus regulatorischer Sicht, aus Marktsicht, aus irgendwo anders herkommt, aber es wird nicht das letzte Mal gewesen sein. Ja. Ah, wenn wir schon bei großen amerikanischen Firmen sind, dann lass uns doch über, oh Gott, will will ich über SpaceX reden oder reden wir erst mal nur über Cursor. So, ich weiß nicht. Ja, ich, das hängt ja zusammen. Also Cursor kennen ja hoffentlich alle mittlerweile, ist 'n AI Start-up, was 'n 'n mit 'nem VS Code Folge angefangen hat und dann, sag ich mal, sich immer weiterentwickelt hat, eigene Modelle trainiert hat, jetzt eine Agentic IDE hat. Sehr cool eigentlich, was sie gemacht haben, vor allem mit den Composer Modellen. Und vorn paar Monaten hatten wir, glaub ich, auch in der in den News. Es ging das Gerücht drum so, hey, SpaceX möchte Cursor kaufen und am Anfang war's nur noch sone, sag ich mal, eine Training Kollaboration. Aber gestern war in, also letzten Freitag war der SpaceX IPO, also man kann jetzt SpaceX Aktien kaufen, der auch scheinbar sehr positiv verlaufen ist für alle aktuell. Und gestern war in San Francisco die Cursor Compile. Und die Cursor Compile ist 'n jährliches Event von Cursor in Person, gibt keine Livestream, wo sie halt 'n bisschen darüber zählen, was sie machen wollen, wo's hingeht, neue Features vorstellen, neue Produkte vorstellen. Am gleichen Tag wurde dann aber auch veröffentlicht, dass SpaceX jetzt Curse kauft oder erquirert zu dem Deal, was sie am Anfang vereinbart haben, welcher 60000000000 in all Stock ist. Also CursA bekommt dann mehr oder weniger SpaceX Stocks Aktien im Wert von 60000000000, was 'n kein schlechter Deal ist. Ja, gar kein schlechter Deal ist. Hoffen wir mal, dass die SpaceX Aktie so bleibt und nicht irgendwie 150 Prozent fällt und dann aus den 60000000000 nur 10000000000 werden, aber wär trotzdem noch kein schlechter Deal, sag ich mal. Und sie haben es ernannt, dass sie zusammen Modelle trainieren wollen, die sind. Also nicht nur developer orientiert, sondern wirklich einfach AI Modelle und werden natürlich in C Cursor oder auch in integriert. Und jetzt zeig ich mal die spannenden Themen von der CursOR Compilee, die vielleicht für alle CursOR Anwender cool sind oder generell. Sie haben 'n neues Modell angekündigt, 'n größeres Modell als, was Sie komplett selbst trainiert haben auf 100000 GPS zusammen mit SpaceX beziehungsweise auf der XEA Infrastruktur. Und das soll in den nächsten Wochen released werden. Sie haben gesagt, so zwischen 1 und 1.5 Trillionen beziehungsweise Billionen Parameter dann, also 'n bisschen größer als die aktuellen Modelle, die sich nutzen. Und dann die interessanten Themen es sind, Sie haben eine GitHub Konkurrenten vorgestellt mit Origin, was eine Agent Native Kit Plattform sein soll, komplett neu aufgebaut auf, sag ich mal, neuen Technologien, die mit den ganzen Anforderungen von Agents halt besser klarkommen. Das heißt, sie haben High Performance mit irgendwie 22 pro Sekunde auf einem haben. Ja. Schon krass. Jetzt haben trotzdem fully. Also soll, so wie ich's verstanden hab, als 1 zu 1 Replacement relativ einfach funktionieren, aber sie wollen dann auch ganz viel außen rum halt bauen, was angeht, wie ich Agents integrieren kann ins Review, wie ich Merch Konflikte ganz einfach lösen kann. Alles halt, was, sag ich mal, eher mehr agentenfreudig wird. Aktuell gibt's nur eine Waitlist, Kann man sich einschreiben auf cursor dot com Slash Origin das Waitlist. Man braucht allerdings seine Work-E-Mail. Also wenn man versucht, mit der normalen Gmail sich anzumellen, dann geht's leider nicht. Auf jeden Fall gespannt. Es wird gebaut von den Menschen. War Start-up, das hat vor 'n paar Monaten, die's so on top auf gebaut haben und kommen jetzt dann sozusagen auf GitHub hinzugefügt haben. Liegt auf jeden Fall interessant. Ich bin mal gespannt, was dabei rumkommt. Und dann das andere, was Sie noch angekündigt haben, es gibt eine CursA Mobile App. Also CursA hat ja zu der IDI auch Cloud Agents und jetzt soll's eine Mobile App geben, wo man ganz easy mit ihnen zusammenarbeiten kann, beziehungsweise auch so ähnlich wie bei Code Code oder Codex dann auf seinem lokalen PC was starten kann und dann von seinem, von seiner App aus, den's das mehr oder weniger kommt, ja, steuern kann. Genau. Also bleibt auf jeden Fall spannend. Vielleicht haben wir mit Cursor plus SpaceX jetzt 'n vierten Akteur, sag ich mal, der sich da vorne mit rumbewegt, was definitiv gut ist. Mehr Konkurrenz ist immer gut. Vielleicht ist dann Cloud Faible auch irgendwann nicht mehr zu und man kann es nutzen. Ja, also SpaceX wirkt irgendwie so wie die einzig profitabel, also ist ja nicht mal profitabel, aber die einzig gut laufende Firma von Elon Musk, mit der jetzt einfach alle anderen Sachen aufkauft, die eben so irgendwie liegen, nachdem er ja erst irgendwie XAI da reingeschmissen hat und jetzt irgendwie sie da kommt ja erst Twitter zu x, dann x Inside XAI, xAI Inside SpaceX und Freitag zum ersten Billionär auf der Welt gemacht. Ja, ja, traurig, aber war, was soll man sagen? Ja. Abgefahren. Aber ich meine, ich ich find's, es ist ja trotzdem 'n krasser Indikator dafür, dass da dieser da ist, ja? Also ich mein, natürlich hat SpaceX jetzt mit dem IPO genug irgendwie Cash in in Form von Stock, aber sie machen das ja auch nicht aus Jux und Tollerei. Also sie scheinen da ja schon irgendwie den den Markt zu sehen und sie haben das ja auch, ich glaub, in der Pressemitteilung von SpaceX dann so beschrieben, wie groß sie diesen Markt halt irgendwie eigentlich einschätzen und dass dafür diese 60000000000 halt eigentlich so ein Tropfen irgendwie sind. Und dass sie halt schon sagen, na ja, wir sind ja eigentlich in 'ner guten Position. Wir haben ja auch in den letzten paar Wochen immer mal wieder gehört, dass XAI Space X superviel Compouted Power irgendwie grade ausmietet an und an Google, glaub ich, sogar auch oder? Nee, nicht, Google an und wer war der andere? Also Curse auf jeden Fall und ansonsten weiß ich's nicht. Ja, und da da halt, ne, im im Prinzip ja brachliegende Kapazitäten hat. Und wenn sie jetzt quasi mit mit Cursor 'n Produkt ins Haus bekommen, wo sie das selber nutzen können, irgendwie was damit zu bauen, ist ja für für Cursor und für Erwachsene ja eigentlich nur cool. Ja, ich glaub, das Einzige, was son bisschen schwierig, ich hab das gestern gesehen, dass durch die Aktienbewertung ist SpaceX jetzt aktuell Platz 4 oder 5 der größten Unternehmen. Und die ersten 4 sind halt Nvidia, Alphabet, Apple, Microsoft und dann wird da SpaceX aktuell gelistet, je nachdem, wo die Aktie steht. Und alle von den ersten 4 haben halt über 100000000000 US Dollar Net Income, also Billionen in in US Dollars. Ja. Und SpaceX hat halt 5000000000 negativ Net Income. Ja, das ist halt 'n Bild. Ja. Aber es ist auf jeden Fall eine spannende Zeit und mich freut's ganz sehr für die ganzen großer Menschen. Ja, alles hab's ja grad wieder gefunden. Also es sind tatsächlich Google und, die beide bei SpaceX Computer grade kaufen für fast 2000000000 im Monat kombiniert. Das ist auch 'n gutes Geschäftsmodell. So, wenn man einfach sehr früh viel Hardware gekauft hat oder sich Kapazität gesichert hat, die man dann Ja. Weiterververmieten kann. Nice. Wenn wir schon über Google Hardware und AI sprechen, können wir auch noch 'n bisschen über Apple Intelligence sprechen. Da war ja letzte Woche erst, das fühlt sich alles so. Es ist so viel passiert in den in den letzten paar Tagen. Letzte Woche war WWDC und Apple hat erwartungsgemäß vorgestellt, dass sie ein ein neues Siri gebaut haben und das mithilfe von Google. Und das war im Prinzip auch schon alles, was sie so in der Keynote dazu gesagt haben. So ja, wir haben das mit Google gemacht und jetzt ist es ja irgendwie schöner, besser, weiter höher. Nach der Keynote hat Apple noch einen dedizierten Tech Talk dazu gehalten, der nur in Person war mit eingeladenen Journalisten on the record, aber halt eben nicht recordd, so. Von daher müssen wir son bisschen uns die einzelnen Details zusammenpicken, was da so verschiedene Plattformen zu veröffentlicht haben. Ich hab mir son paar Einzelpunkte rausgesucht, die ich am interessantesten fand, weil wir können ja die einzelnen Reports auch noch mal verlinken. Also die Server für Apple Intelligence stehen bei Google in den Rechenzentren, sind Stand heute noch nicht ganz konform mit den Anforderungen, die Apple eigentlich so an Private Cloud Computing hat, aber sie gehen davon aus, dass sie so bis Ende des Sommers, Ende des Jahres und wahrscheinlich bis die, ne, bis das iOS oder macOS Release dann kommt, dass die damit dann quasi d'accord sind. Alle Modelle wurden auf Apple Silicon trainiert und mit Gemini Modellen nachgeschärft, so, haben Sie im Englischen gesagt, ja. Das war son bisschen unklar in der Struktur, so, ne. Was was genau heißt das jetzt technisch? Da wollten Sie dann nicht so ganz genau drauf eingehen. Zwar auf Apple Silicon trainiert, aber läuft auch auf NVIDIA GPUs, meinte der Modelle. Kommen wir gleich dazu, was sie eigentlich so an einzelnen Modellen vorgestellt haben. Auch das war ja nicht so ganz explizit in der in der Keynote genannt, aber unter machine Learning dot Apple Punkt dot com, was ja so deren Anlaufstelle für auch die ganzen Paper, die sie veröffentlichen und so was ist, haben sie ihre neuen Foundation Modelle jetzt alle aufgelistet. Es gibt AFM, also sie heißen alle Apple Foundation Model, AFM Core. Das ist das neue On device Modell, das kleinste Modell, was im Prinzip das bestehende On Device Modell, was es ja schon gab, ablöst. Und dann neu gibt es jetzt AFM Core Advanced, auch ein On Device Modell, aber mit soner, also nicht alle Parameter gleichzeitig aktiviert. Es sind wohl insgesamt 20000000000 Parameter und was sie damit machen, ist, sie laden nie das ganze Modell in den Arbeitsspeicher. So, sie sie machen im Prinzip, aktivieren Sie nur son Subset von den Parametern und laden dann auch nur diese Parameter in den RAM. Und das soll Ihnen quasi erlauben, dieses 20000000000 Parametermodell auch on device auf kleineren Geräten. Also kleiner heißt in dem Fall Geräte mit nur nur in Anführungszeichen 12 Gigabyte RAM auch ausfüllen zu können, so, ja, ohne dass sie da mobil deinen deinen RAM oder deinen Akku, ne. Du hast ja auch son unterwegs, dass sie den dann weg brennen. Und das gab's, glaub ich, so noch nicht, Philipp, kurier mich da gerne, aber so dieses, wir laden nicht mal das ganze Model in den RAM, sondern machen das vorher auf Grundlage des Prompts. Schauen wir so, welche Teile wir aktivieren und lassen den Rest dann einfach auf der auf der SSD liegen. Haben wir so was schon mal gehört? Ah, ich wär vorsichtig. Also ich, ey, ich bin mir sicher, da gibt's irgendwelche Papers dazu. Ich weiß auch, dass lama CPP so was Ähnliches mal gemacht hat oder hatte, dass Du die Layout zwar nach und nach mehr oder weniger von deinem von deinem Flash Storage, sag ich mal, in den dann geladen hast, wenn sie genau gebraucht wurden. Klingt auf jeden Fall interessant. Wär cool, wenn's wenn, sag ich mal, Du dadurch die Performance von 'nem besseren, 'nem größeren Modell auf deinem Smartphone bekommst und der das dynamisch, sag ich mal, mehr oder weniger hin- und herladet. Zusätzlich aber interessant ist ja trotzdem, dass brauch ich ja dieses 20000000000 Paramed Modell auf meinem iPhone, was ja an sich auch mal grob gesagt einfach 20 Gigabyte sind, ne, mindestens. Das heißt, es bleibt auch spannend abzuwarten, ob neue iPhones dann auch direkt mit mehr Default Speicher kommt oder wohin das geht. Und das größte Problem, was ich gehört hab von den Leuten, die Beta getestet haben, war vor allem die, also man kann ja jetzt seinen iPhone, Mac, wie auch immer indizieren lassen mit. Und auch generell, dass jedes AI User extrem viel Batterie zieht. Ja. Und selbst wenn Du dieses, sag ich mal, große Modell irgendwie klein in Memory bekommst, hast Du ja trotzdem die extreme Computer, die Du brauchst. Und ob das dann so erfolgreich wird, bleibt abzuwarten. Ja, da schauen wir. Also Du Du hast recht, also auch LamaTPP hat so was gemacht. Ich glaub, der große Unterschied ist einfach, dass sie das halt nur einmalig machen. Also in dem Moment, wo quasi der prompt kommt, wird einmalig das komplette Subset irgendwie ausgewählt und das in den Rahmengeladen und danach halt nicht mehr dieses Hin und Her. Ja, ich glaub, Du isst, Du hast definitiv irgendwie hilft. Ja, Du hast bestimmt Trade offs am Ende, also bei der Performance. Und was ist, wenn Du, ich weiß nicht, eine eine Follow up Frage hast und die dann, ja irgendwie in eine andere Richtung, ganz andere Richtung geht? Ja, genau. Das bleibt da bleibt da zu warten. Sie haben natürlich auch Cloud Modelle vorgestellt. Das gibt AFM Cloud, was so eher ihr ihr Model sozusagen ist für alles, was aufm aufm Server läuft. Und dann im Prinzip mit mit diesem den sie da vorgestellt haben. Also es war ja schon länger bekannt, dass Apple auch eigenen Suchindex aufbaut. Das ist im Prinzip das, dieses World Knowledge Ding, was sie damit aufgebaut haben, was dann im Prinzip das Model unterstützt. Sie haben Cloud Image vorgestellt für diese ganzen Bildfeature, die sie ja auch gezeigt haben in der Keynote. Und es gibt Cloud Pro, das größte Modell, von dem Sie behaupten, das ist so mit Gemini Frontier Modellen vergleichbar. Wie gesagt, da gibt's noch keine Benchmarks oder genauere Vergleiche. Aber das ist das, was halt so auch scheinbar ausschließlich auf NVIDIA G-Fus läuft. So, Mit der Grund, warum es dann halt auch bei bei Google läuft. Wir haben schon darüber gesprochen, ne, irgendwie 12 Gigabyte RAM und Du brauchst irgendwie 'n m 3 oder 'n m 4 Prozessor, das alles zu nutzen. Also auch schon 'n sehr harter im Vergleich zu wie lange iPhone oder macOS Hardware sonst irgendwie unterstützt wird. Was ich aber eigentlich am interessantesten fand an dieser Diskussion, ist, dass das 'n cooles Beispiel war für wie Synonym mittlerweile eigentlich Modelbezeichnung und Produktbezeichnung irgendwie einhergehen, ja. Also als sie da auf der Bühne standen und haben gesagt, na ja, wir nutzen jetzt irgendwie Gemini, hat wahrscheinlich Otto Normalverbraucher irgendwie beim Zuhören gedacht, na ja, Gemini, das ist ja dieser Google Assistant, so, den kenn ich, der kann mir Bilder machen, der kann mir irgendwie meine Planung machen, der kann in meinen Dokumenten arbeiten. Aber dass natürlich der der Gemini Assistant so nicht in Apple jetzt irgendwie drin ist, ja, sondern halt irgendwie das Gemini Modell und vielleicht auch gar nicht das Modell selbst, sondern sie haben halt nur das Modell genommen, ihr eigenes Modell zu verbessern, ne, wie auch immer sie das gemacht haben, Schwamm drüber. Aber das ist, glaub ich, was, wo man in Zukunft son bisschen lernen muss, da genauer hinzuhören oder genauer zu verstehen, was da eigentlich drunter liegt, ja. Also auch, ne, in der Diskussion, die wir am Anfang hatten, man spricht irgendwie über Fable 5, aber dass das, dass man damit vielleicht gar nicht zwangsläufig das Modell meint, weil das Produkt hintendran noch ganz andere Entscheidungen für dich trifft und 'n anderes Routing macht und je nachdem Du bei 'nem anderen Modell physisch sozusagen landen kannst und andere Tools enablet oder disablet sind, das, glaub ich, son ganz interessanter Trend, der zwar irgendwie schon immer da war, aber jetzt irgendwie immer entscheidender wird. Ja, bleibt spannend. Ich freu mich auf jeden Fall auf die neue Bildbearbeitungs-AI-Features, dass man noch bessere Objekte entfernen kann. Unbelogen. Ich heb seit Jahren, ich weiß nicht, wahrscheinlich schon seit 10 Jahren auch so Bilder auf, die grottig schlecht sind. Weil ich bin denk so, irgendwann müssen wir ja computermäßig weit genug sein, ja, dass Du halt sagen kannst, so, ja, dieser dieser Shot von von meinem Kind oder von 'nem Verband, von dem ich nicht viele Bilder hab oder guter Freund, keine Ahnung, das war so schlecht, aber in 'n paar Jahren, da drückst Du halt irgendwie einen Button und das ist halt, ist halt 'n gutes Foto, so, ja. Cool. Cool, wenn wir jetzt endlich irgendwie da sind. Yes, das war's dann auch schon wieder. Mehr hab ich gar nicht dabei. Hast Du noch was, Philipp? Okay. Dann ist das ja eine ordnungsgemäße knapp 30 Minuten Folge. Ich bin stolz auf uns. Haben wir gut gemacht, auch ohne Dennis und Fabi. Ich wollt noch, wir haben uns ja in Las Vegas gesehen auf der, ich glaub, Texas, weil wir grade über Google Rechenzentren und wo da jetzt das Apple Zeug liegt sage, will ich auch ganz kurz was zeigen. Mein Lieblings Next Merch, den ich mitgenommen hab, ist hier dieses kleine Google Tpu Rack aus Lego. Ich weiß gar nicht, ob man das jetzt son Ja, ich also ich hatte das nicht. Da, ja. Aber warte. Jetzt jetzt kommen, Du hast doch noch den den Chip irgendwo rumliegen. Ja. Ich hab ein Original TPU v 4, wie auch immer. Das natürlich, das ist schon 'n bisschen cooler als RTL Zeit. Decommiset wurde. Was sonst schon soll was, ist soll schon was Besonderes dann. Shots feiert für für Interieur. Wunderbar, dann Philipp, danke dir für die Zeit. Wir, also ich weiß nicht, wann wir uns das nächste Mal sehen. Vielleicht sehen wir uns auf der auf der Programmiercon. Ansonsten seht ihr wahrscheinlich hier in 2 Wochen erst mal wieder Fabio und Dennis, insofern sie wieder da sind. Ansonsten sprech ich noch mal ein. Hat mir Spaß gemacht, war cool. Tschau, 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Mit mir hier im Studio ist wie immer Philipp Schmid. Hallo Philipp, schön, dass Du da bist. Hallo.\n\nSpeaker 1: Sehr? Das 1. Mal glaubt, dass wir was zusammen aufnehmen, oder?\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein, es ist nur schon Jahre her. Ich hab das vorhin auch überlegt, als es es gab mal einen Moment, als Dennis, glaub ich, in Elternzeit war und Fabi irgendwie im Urlaub oder so, das muss so, weiß ich nicht, 20 23 oder so was gewesen, also das ist schon ewig, ewig lange her. Da haben wir das auch schon mal gemacht. Ja, weil für alle, die sich wundern, dass hier weder Dennis noch Fabi sitzen, Dennis ist im Urlaub, Kitesurfen irgendwo in Afrika oder so und was Fabi macht, hab ich ehrlicherweise keine Ahnung. So, der wird auch im Urlaub sein, aber er ist auf alle Fälle heute nicht hier.\n\nWir wollen ein bisschen sprechen über Fable, den Release beziehungsweise den Nicht Release. Wir sprechen ein bisschen über Cursor, das sich zusammen mit SpaceX grade in astronomische Höhen bewegt und wir sprechen ein bisschen über Apples Foundation Modelle und alles, was wir da vielleicht noch so im Nachgang der WWDC zugehört haben. Ja, da würd ich sagen, wir steigen mal direkt mit dem dem Gate, so hab ich das auf auf LinkedIn irgendwie schon betitelt gelesen. Steigen wir ein, ist ja alles 'n Gate heutzutage. So, wir machen einmal den den Kurzabriss, dann können wir vielleicht im Detail noch mal reinschauen.\n\nAlso am neunten Juni, das war letzte Woche Dienstag, hat Antropic, Fable 5 und Mitheus released. Benchmark natürlich wie immer megacool, 10 Prozentpunkte im SWR Benz mehr als Opos, 10 Prozent gesteigert im Terminal Bench. Alles megacool, aber diese ganzen Benchmarks sind wahrscheinlich zweitrangig und hinfällig. Da sprechen wir gleich drüber, weil ganze 3 Tage später, am zwölften Juni, war's das dann auch schon wieder mit Fable und Fable musste abgeschaltet werden. 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Ja, das vielleicht mal so die die 3 Sekunden Summary und Dreihundertste hast Du Dreihundertste 300 Sekunden.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also hast Du die Möglichkeit, Faible 5 zu testen während den 3 Tagen, wo es da war?\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, tatsächlich. Ich hab's auch benutzt. Ich hab auch sehr schnell mein mein Token Limit Okay. Dadurch aufgebraucht im Prinzip. Ich hab so ganz banale Designsachen gemacht, muss ich sagen, weil man das ja auch in Cloud Design schon nutzen konnte.\n\nUnd weil Design so mit einem meiner größten Schwächen ist, hab ich gesagt, okay, je mehr Intelligence ich da drauf werfen kann, umso besser. Es hat auch echt coole Ergebnisse geliefert, muss ich sagen, aber es war halt schon deutlich langsamer als Opos vorher und wie gesagt, also mein Token Limit war nach anderthalb Features, die ich gebaut hab, war's halt auch einfach weg. Vielleicht noch ein Satz zur Einleitung, weil ich gesagt hab, diese ganzen Benchmarks sind vielleicht jetzt hinfällig. Es kann natürlich sein, dass die Lösung auf diese Situation ist, dass bei seinen Guardrails irgendwie nachschärfen muss und in mehr oder anderen Fällen quasi diesen Fallback auf Opus 4 5 dann bringen muss Und das kann natürlich dann auch die Benchmark Ergebnisse wieder ändern, ja. Also alle Benchmark Ergebnisse, die wir zu Release gesehen haben, würde ich jetzt noch mal mit Vorsicht genießen.\n\nSollte man vielleicht dann, wenn es wieder verfügbar ist, sich noch mal anschauen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. So, Philipp, dein Take. Ja, es, also ich war beeindruckt beim Modell und ich hab auch sehr viel positiv gelesen. Und ich weiß nicht, ob Du's am Anfang erwähnt hast, aber als es released war, haben sie ein paar, also auch mit veröffentlicht und das war jetzt doppelt so teuer wie Opus 4 Punkt 8. Also deswegen wahrscheinlich auch mehr.\n\nUnd der eigentliche Plan war am Anfang, dass man das bis zweiundzwanzigsten Juni 'n Cloud Code ja zur Verfügung hat oder halt eine Cloud Subscriptions und danach dafür API Pricing zahlen müsste. Schade, dass es nicht mehr verfügbar ist. Mich hätt sehr gerne interessiert, wie sich das alles ausarbeitet, ob dann, also wie Leute damit umgehen und es nutzen werden. Weil wir hatten, glaub ich, in der letzten Folge das Thema mit, hey, AI Kosten werden immer höher und Unternehmen fahren halt schon wieder zurück und haben haben die die Leute zu früh entlassen. Und hey, jeder bekommt irgendwie, keine Ahnung, 3000 Dollar und darf die dann ausgeben für whatever AI, dass er halt irgendwie braucht.\n\nDeswegen schade, dass da, sag ich mal, die US Regierung uns son bisschen insights weggenommen hat. Und an sich find ich's 'n schwieriges Thema, weil ich mein, Antopic ist ja dafür bekannt, dass sie immer sehr stark dafür Werbung machen, dass alles Risiko ist und wir mehr brauchen. Und jetzt werden sie irgendwie reguliert. Und vor 2 Monaten hatten sie ihr gesagt, hey, wir können Mythos nicht releasen, ist zu gefährlich. Jetzt haben sie Mythos doch released unter, aber mit diesen extra Guardrails außenrum.\n\nUnd ich mein, wir haben ja, wir wissen ja alle, dass Guardrails nicht 100 Prozent funktionieren. Also selbst wenn sie jetzt irgendwie was zusätzlich machen für irgendwas im Coding Bereich, dann wirst Du schon wieder irgendwelche Leute haben, die das dann irgendwie versuchen zu umgehen. Klar, der Großteil wird dafür irgendwie nicht verwendet, aber dann auf der anderen Seite weiß ich halt auch wieder nicht, ob also ob das das Ziel davon ist. Also wenn ich 'n Modell hab, was an sich extrem gut ist, was zweimal so viel kostet, aber ich nie garantieren kann bei meinem Prompt, den ich benutze, ob das wirklich dann das normale Modell ist oder nicht. Und man weiß ja, egal ob ich jetzt Cloud nutze oder GPT oder Gemini, ich muss immer gewiss 'n bisschen anders promptden und ich lern auch 'n bisschen, wie ich mit den Modellen umgehe.\n\nUnd das, wenn ich dann sone Art hab, wo man nie genau weiß, was wirklich kommt, ist es schon schwieriger. Also ich bin mal gespannt, wie's weitergeht, weil wir wissen alle, die Performance wird nicht schlechter. Und ich bin mir sicher, dass Open AI oder dass Gemini alle nachholen oder aufholen oder dass selbst, sag ich mal, Open Waidts Modelle zu dem Punkt halt irgendwann kommen werden. Und dann ist halt die Frage, wie man damit umgeht und was man bis dahin halt lernen oder machen kann.\n\nSpeaker 0: Eine der Antworten von war ja auch, dass Sie von Anfang an gesagt haben, wir führen hier diese 30 Tage Data Retention Policy ein, die's ja so vorher nicht gab, quasi selbst, wenn Du einen Jailbreak findest oder irgendeinen auf dieses Modell quasi fährst, dass sie das im Worst Case im Nachhinein feststellen können und dann halt irgendwie deinen Account bestrikten, bannen, isolieren, wie auch immer irgendwie können. Und das war ja auch schon Grund genug für die ein oder andere große Corporate Kunden irgendwie zu sagen, so, das nutzen wir immer erst mal nicht, weil wir halt mit dieser Data Retention irgendwie nicht einverstanden sollen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber ich sag mal, wenn wir bei dem Beispiel bleiben, was irgendwo halt geteilt wird, wo man nicht sicher ist, ob das wirklich stimmt oder nicht mit, hey, fix und dann findet der Security. Das ist eine ganz normale Entwickleraufgabe. Also ich weiß nicht, wenn ich irgendwo an 'nem großen Projekt arbeite oder war's 'n komplexes Projekt arbeite, sei es selbst sogar 'n Betriebssystem, weil am Ende wollen wir AI dafür nutzen, sag ich mal, mehr oder weniger. Und wenn die AI gut ist, diese Bugs zu fixen, dann ist das ja, Du hast ja immer die gute Seite und die schlechte Seite. Und es wär ja schlecht, wenn beide Seiten irgendwie, sag ich mal, dadurch reguliert werden würden, weil die böse Seite ist normalerweise, also in dem Fall böse in Anführungszeichen.\n\nAber klar, die Leute, die dich hacken wollen oder damit irgendwas erbußen wollen, die sind meistens offener gegenüber solchen als die guten Seiten, weil die gute Seite möchte natürlich in den Service bleiben oder halt nichts irgendwas Falsches machen. Das heißt, das ist ja doppelt schlecht in dem Sinne, wenn wir da Also ich bin ich bin's spannend. Ich find's auf jeden Fall interessant zu verfolgen. Ich glaub, das wird sich in den nächsten ein, 2 Wochen einiges ergeben, weil ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass das einfach unterm Tisch verschwindet und das Modell nie released wird oder was Sie da machen. Vielleicht nennen Sie's auch einfach Opus 4 Punkt 9 und keine Ahnung, Pricing oder erhöht oder so was.\n\nAlso ja, ich meine, auf der anderen Sicht ist ja auch wieder noch vielleicht als letzter Punkt interessant, hätten Sie's nicht released, hätten Sie's ja intern weiter nutzen können. Also an Tropic oder andere Unternehmen könnten ja das Modell, wenn sie's trainiert haben und wenn das als Risiko eingestuft werden würde zum Release, ja einfach intern nutzen, sich dann ja selber zu verbessern. Klar, kommst Du irgendwann in die Gefahr, wir können das nicht finanzieren und wir brauchen Kunden von außen und wir brauchen Feedback von außen und wir brauchen mehr Evaluierungen und alles andere. Aber ich weiß nicht, ob die sich dann 'n bisschen aufn aufn aufn Finger gerade beißen, dass sie das schon released haben.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also was ja auch grade jetzt hier in Europa so Teil von dem Diskurs war, da ging's wieder Abhängigkeit von US Tech Konzernen. Da ging's oh oh mein Gott, mein mein Businessmodell ist irgendwie gefährdet, weil ich jetzt hier irgendwie Access verloren hab. Und da, also ich hab das gelesen so auf verschiedenen Social Media Kanälen und dachte mir auch nur so, wenn wenn das dein Problem ist, dann hast Du halt irgendwas grundsätzlich falsch verstanden. Ich glaube, das muss man vielleicht auch mal sagen, so also a, wenn dein Business gefährdet ist, weil 'n Model, was irgendwie 72 Stunden da war, jetzt nicht mehr da ist, dann hast Du vielleicht irgendwie aufs falsche Pferd gesetzt und nicht so gut irgendwie hier Risikoabwägung betrieben. Und auch ansonsten, glaube ich, also so so gern ich einzelne dieser Models irgendwie mag oder auch irgendwie super cool finde, am Ende muss es ja für dich aus aus Business Sicht ja eigentlich sone Commodity sein, ja?\n\nAlso genauso wie wenn jetzt, weiß ich nicht, heute, weiß ich nicht, Microsoft SQL sagen würde so, ja, machen wir nicht mehr, gibt's nicht mehr in Europa, ja? Dann musst Du halt irgendwie auf Postress oder Mysequuqueline wechseln können oder keine Ahnung, ja? Und genauso, wenn jetzt in Tromic morgen sagen würde, wir machen gar keine Modelle mehr in Europa, dann muss es dir ja irgendwie möglich sein, dass Du halt sagst, na ja, wir nutzen halt irgendwas anderes, aber es hängt nicht 100 Prozent von unserem Business daran, dass dieses eine Modell von diesem einen speziellen Anbieter irgendwie da ist.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, es klappt alles 'n bisschen schwierig, weil wir halt in soner sehr schnelllebigen technologischen Welt sind. Ich mein, wenn man da, keine Ahnung, gehst Du 15 Jahre zurück und stell dir vor, Oracle sagt, ja, Du darfst Java Enterprise nicht mehr in Europa nutzen. Dann werden ja auch ganz viele Unternehmen erst mal. Und klar, ist das kein guter Vergleich, weil das eine ist eine Sprache, das andere ist irgendwie 'n Produkt oder irgendwie so was, aber Du hast ja trotzdem Lizenzen für für das gekauft. Und ich glaub, es bleibt einfach abzuwarten und ich geh davon aus, dass man mehr davon in der Zukunft sieht.\n\nAlso eher als eher weniger. Also ich glaub nicht, dass wir regulatorisch oder gesellschaftlich da jetzt sagen, hey, okay, das war jetzt einmal der Fall, Modelle sind halt so und dann mal schauen, wo's hingeht. Also ich glaub, man wird, nee, die Welt wird eher verrückter, als dass sie stabiler wird, umso besser die KI Modelle werden. Und umso besser die werden, umso andere Risiken kommen ab und umso eher muss man halt auch Prioritäten anpassen oder andere Dinge. Und dann ist sind's, glaub, keine schwere Entscheidung, die auf Unternehmen zukommen.\n\nWeil wenn der der Konkurrent das halt irgendwie einführt und dann alle Kunden da hinspringen und man halt selber 'n bisschen langsamer ist und vorsichtiger, dann ist es es wird schwierig.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, das ist sicherlich eine Risikoabwägung, aber ich glaube halt, also ganz ganz simpel gesagt, so mein Mitleid hält sich son bisschen in Grenzen für die Fälle. Weil ich glaub, wie Du sagst, ich glaub, als Unternehmen bist Du's dir halt irgendwie schon schuldig, da son bisschen Contingency planning zu machen, ja. Und halt nicht dann mit runtergelassener Hose dazustehen, wenn das passiert, weil ich bin voll badyos wird irgendwie wieder passieren, ja. Ob das jetzt aus regulatorischer Sicht, aus Marktsicht, aus irgendwo anders herkommt, aber es wird nicht das letzte Mal gewesen sein. Ja.\n\nAh, wenn wir schon bei großen amerikanischen Firmen sind, dann lass uns doch über, oh Gott, will will ich über SpaceX reden oder reden wir erst mal nur über Cursor. So, ich weiß nicht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, ich, das hängt ja zusammen. Also Cursor kennen ja hoffentlich alle mittlerweile, ist 'n AI Start-up, was 'n 'n mit 'nem VS Code Folge angefangen hat und dann, sag ich mal, sich immer weiterentwickelt hat, eigene Modelle trainiert hat, jetzt eine Agentic IDE hat. Sehr cool eigentlich, was sie gemacht haben, vor allem mit den Composer Modellen. Und vorn paar Monaten hatten wir, glaub ich, auch in der in den News. Es ging das Gerücht drum so, hey, SpaceX möchte Cursor kaufen und am Anfang war's nur noch sone, sag ich mal, eine Training Kollaboration.\n\nAber gestern war in, also letzten Freitag war der SpaceX IPO, also man kann jetzt SpaceX Aktien kaufen, der auch scheinbar sehr positiv verlaufen ist für alle aktuell. Und gestern war in San Francisco die Cursor Compile. Und die Cursor Compile ist 'n jährliches Event von Cursor in Person, gibt keine Livestream, wo sie halt 'n bisschen darüber zählen, was sie machen wollen, wo's hingeht, neue Features vorstellen, neue Produkte vorstellen. Am gleichen Tag wurde dann aber auch veröffentlicht, dass SpaceX jetzt Curse kauft oder erquirert zu dem Deal, was sie am Anfang vereinbart haben, welcher 60000000000 in all Stock ist. Also CursA bekommt dann mehr oder weniger SpaceX Stocks Aktien im Wert von 60000000000, was 'n kein schlechter Deal ist.\n\nJa, gar kein schlechter Deal ist. Hoffen wir mal, dass die SpaceX Aktie so bleibt und nicht irgendwie 150 Prozent fällt und dann aus den 60000000000 nur 10000000000 werden, aber wär trotzdem noch kein schlechter Deal, sag ich mal. Und sie haben es ernannt, dass sie zusammen Modelle trainieren wollen, die sind. Also nicht nur developer orientiert, sondern wirklich einfach AI Modelle und werden natürlich in C Cursor oder auch in integriert. Und jetzt zeig ich mal die spannenden Themen von der CursOR Compilee, die vielleicht für alle CursOR Anwender cool sind oder generell.\n\nSie haben 'n neues Modell angekündigt, 'n größeres Modell als, was Sie komplett selbst trainiert haben auf 100000 GPS zusammen mit SpaceX beziehungsweise auf der XEA Infrastruktur. Und das soll in den nächsten Wochen released werden. Sie haben gesagt, so zwischen 1 und 1.5 Trillionen beziehungsweise Billionen Parameter dann, also 'n bisschen größer als die aktuellen Modelle, die sich nutzen. Und dann die interessanten Themen es sind, Sie haben eine GitHub Konkurrenten vorgestellt mit Origin, was eine Agent Native Kit Plattform sein soll, komplett neu aufgebaut auf, sag ich mal, neuen Technologien, die mit den ganzen Anforderungen von Agents halt besser klarkommen. Das heißt, sie haben High Performance mit irgendwie 22 pro Sekunde auf einem\n\nSpeaker 0: haben. Ja. Schon krass.\n\nSpeaker 1: Jetzt haben trotzdem fully. Also soll, so wie ich's verstanden hab, als 1 zu 1 Replacement relativ einfach funktionieren, aber sie wollen dann auch ganz viel außen rum halt bauen, was angeht, wie ich Agents integrieren kann ins Review, wie ich Merch Konflikte ganz einfach lösen kann. Alles halt, was, sag ich mal, eher mehr agentenfreudig wird. Aktuell gibt's nur eine Waitlist, Kann man sich einschreiben auf cursor dot com Slash Origin das Waitlist. Man braucht allerdings seine Work-E-Mail.\n\nAlso wenn man versucht, mit der normalen Gmail sich anzumellen, dann geht's leider nicht. Auf jeden Fall gespannt. Es wird gebaut von den Menschen. War Start-up, das hat vor 'n paar Monaten, die's so on top auf gebaut haben und kommen jetzt dann sozusagen auf GitHub hinzugefügt haben. Liegt auf jeden Fall interessant.\n\nIch bin mal gespannt, was dabei rumkommt. Und dann das andere, was Sie noch angekündigt haben, es gibt eine CursA Mobile App. Also CursA hat ja zu der IDI auch Cloud Agents und jetzt soll's eine Mobile App geben, wo man ganz easy mit ihnen zusammenarbeiten kann, beziehungsweise auch so ähnlich wie bei Code Code oder Codex dann auf seinem lokalen PC was starten kann und dann von seinem, von seiner App aus, den's das mehr oder weniger kommt, ja, steuern kann. Genau. Also bleibt auf jeden Fall spannend.\n\nVielleicht haben wir mit Cursor plus SpaceX jetzt 'n vierten Akteur, sag ich mal, der sich da vorne mit rumbewegt, was definitiv gut ist. Mehr Konkurrenz ist immer gut. Vielleicht ist dann Cloud Faible auch irgendwann nicht mehr zu und man kann es nutzen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, also SpaceX wirkt irgendwie so wie die einzig profitabel, also ist ja nicht mal profitabel, aber die einzig gut laufende Firma von Elon Musk, mit der jetzt\n\nSpeaker 1: einfach alle anderen Sachen aufkauft, die\n\nSpeaker 0: eben so irgendwie liegen, nachdem er ja erst irgendwie XAI da reingeschmissen hat und jetzt irgendwie sie da kommt\n\nSpeaker 1: ja erst Twitter zu x, dann x Inside XAI, xAI Inside SpaceX und Freitag zum ersten Billionär auf der Welt gemacht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ja, traurig, aber war, was soll man sagen? Ja. Abgefahren. Aber ich meine, ich ich find's, es ist ja trotzdem 'n krasser Indikator dafür, dass da dieser da ist, ja? Also ich mein, natürlich hat SpaceX jetzt mit dem IPO genug irgendwie Cash in in Form von Stock, aber sie machen das ja auch nicht aus Jux und Tollerei.\n\nAlso sie scheinen da ja schon irgendwie den den Markt zu sehen und sie haben das ja auch, ich glaub, in der Pressemitteilung von SpaceX dann so beschrieben, wie groß sie diesen Markt halt irgendwie eigentlich einschätzen und dass dafür diese 60000000000 halt eigentlich so ein Tropfen irgendwie sind. Und dass sie halt schon sagen, na ja, wir sind ja eigentlich in 'ner guten Position. Wir haben ja auch in den letzten paar Wochen immer mal wieder gehört, dass XAI Space X superviel Compouted Power irgendwie grade ausmietet an und an Google, glaub ich, sogar auch oder? Nee, nicht, Google an und wer war der andere?\n\nSpeaker 1: Also Curse auf jeden Fall und ansonsten weiß ich's nicht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, und da da halt, ne, im im Prinzip ja brachliegende Kapazitäten hat. Und wenn sie jetzt quasi mit mit Cursor 'n Produkt ins Haus bekommen, wo sie das selber nutzen können, irgendwie was damit zu bauen, ist ja für für Cursor und für Erwachsene ja eigentlich nur cool.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, ich glaub, das Einzige, was son bisschen schwierig, ich hab das gestern gesehen, dass durch die Aktienbewertung ist SpaceX jetzt aktuell Platz 4 oder 5 der größten Unternehmen. Und die ersten 4 sind halt Nvidia, Alphabet, Apple, Microsoft und dann wird da SpaceX aktuell gelistet, je nachdem, wo die Aktie steht. Und alle von den ersten 4 haben halt über 100000000000 US Dollar Net Income, also Billionen in in US Dollars. Ja. Und SpaceX hat halt 5000000000 negativ Net Income.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, das ist halt 'n Bild.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Aber es ist auf jeden Fall eine spannende Zeit und mich freut's ganz sehr für die ganzen großer Menschen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, alles hab's ja grad wieder gefunden. Also es sind tatsächlich Google und, die beide bei SpaceX Computer grade kaufen für fast 2000000000 im Monat kombiniert. Das ist auch 'n gutes Geschäftsmodell. So, wenn man einfach sehr früh viel Hardware gekauft hat oder sich Kapazität gesichert hat, die man dann Ja. Weiterververmieten kann.\n\nNice. Wenn wir schon über Google Hardware und AI sprechen, können wir auch noch 'n bisschen über Apple Intelligence sprechen. Da war ja letzte Woche erst, das fühlt sich alles so. Es ist so viel passiert in den in den letzten paar Tagen. Letzte Woche war WWDC und Apple hat erwartungsgemäß vorgestellt, dass sie ein ein neues Siri gebaut haben und das mithilfe von Google.\n\nUnd das war im Prinzip auch schon alles, was sie so in der Keynote dazu gesagt haben. So ja, wir haben das mit Google gemacht und jetzt ist es ja irgendwie schöner, besser, weiter höher. Nach der Keynote hat Apple noch einen dedizierten Tech Talk dazu gehalten, der nur in Person war mit eingeladenen Journalisten on the record, aber halt eben nicht recordd, so. Von daher müssen wir son bisschen uns die einzelnen Details zusammenpicken, was da so verschiedene Plattformen zu veröffentlicht haben. Ich hab mir son paar Einzelpunkte rausgesucht, die ich am interessantesten fand, weil wir können ja die einzelnen Reports auch noch mal verlinken.\n\nAlso die Server für Apple Intelligence stehen bei Google in den Rechenzentren, sind Stand heute noch nicht ganz konform mit den Anforderungen, die Apple eigentlich so an Private Cloud Computing hat, aber sie gehen davon aus, dass sie so bis Ende des Sommers, Ende des Jahres und wahrscheinlich bis die, ne, bis das iOS oder macOS Release dann kommt, dass die damit dann quasi d'accord sind. Alle Modelle wurden auf Apple Silicon trainiert und mit Gemini Modellen nachgeschärft, so, haben Sie im Englischen gesagt, ja. Das war son bisschen unklar in der Struktur, so, ne. Was was genau heißt das jetzt technisch? Da wollten Sie dann nicht so ganz genau drauf eingehen.\n\nZwar auf Apple Silicon trainiert, aber läuft auch auf NVIDIA GPUs, meinte der Modelle. Kommen wir gleich dazu, was sie eigentlich so an einzelnen Modellen vorgestellt haben. Auch das war ja nicht so ganz explizit in der in der Keynote genannt, aber unter machine Learning dot Apple Punkt dot com, was ja so deren Anlaufstelle für auch die ganzen Paper, die sie veröffentlichen und so was ist, haben sie ihre neuen Foundation Modelle jetzt alle aufgelistet. Es gibt AFM, also sie heißen alle Apple Foundation Model, AFM Core. Das ist das neue On device Modell, das kleinste Modell, was im Prinzip das bestehende On Device Modell, was es ja schon gab, ablöst.\n\nUnd dann neu gibt es jetzt AFM Core Advanced, auch ein On Device Modell, aber mit soner, also nicht alle Parameter gleichzeitig aktiviert. Es sind wohl insgesamt 20000000000 Parameter und was sie damit machen, ist, sie laden nie das ganze Modell in den Arbeitsspeicher. So, sie sie machen im Prinzip, aktivieren Sie nur son Subset von den Parametern und laden dann auch nur diese Parameter in den RAM. Und das soll Ihnen quasi erlauben, dieses 20000000000 Parametermodell auch on device auf kleineren Geräten. Also kleiner heißt in dem Fall Geräte mit nur nur in Anführungszeichen 12 Gigabyte RAM auch ausfüllen zu können, so, ja, ohne dass sie da mobil deinen deinen RAM oder deinen Akku, ne.\n\nDu hast ja auch son unterwegs, dass sie den dann weg brennen. Und das gab's, glaub ich, so noch nicht, Philipp, kurier mich da gerne, aber so dieses, wir laden nicht mal das ganze Model in den RAM, sondern machen das vorher auf Grundlage des Prompts. Schauen wir so, welche Teile wir aktivieren und lassen den Rest dann einfach auf der auf der SSD liegen. Haben wir so was schon mal gehört?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ah, ich wär vorsichtig. Also ich, ey, ich bin mir sicher, da gibt's irgendwelche Papers dazu. Ich weiß auch, dass lama CPP so was Ähnliches mal gemacht hat oder hatte, dass Du die Layout zwar nach und nach mehr oder weniger von deinem von deinem Flash Storage, sag ich mal, in den dann geladen hast, wenn sie genau gebraucht wurden. Klingt auf jeden Fall interessant. Wär cool, wenn's wenn, sag ich mal, Du dadurch die Performance von 'nem besseren, 'nem größeren Modell auf deinem Smartphone bekommst und der das dynamisch, sag ich mal, mehr oder weniger hin- und herladet.\n\nZusätzlich aber interessant ist ja trotzdem, dass brauch ich ja dieses 20000000000 Paramed Modell auf meinem iPhone, was ja an sich auch mal grob gesagt einfach 20 Gigabyte sind, ne, mindestens. Das heißt, es bleibt auch spannend abzuwarten, ob neue iPhones dann auch direkt mit mehr Default Speicher kommt oder wohin das geht. Und das größte Problem, was ich gehört hab von den Leuten, die Beta getestet haben, war vor allem die, also man kann ja jetzt seinen iPhone, Mac, wie auch immer indizieren lassen mit. Und auch generell, dass jedes AI User extrem viel Batterie zieht. Ja.\n\nUnd selbst wenn Du dieses, sag ich mal, große Modell irgendwie klein in Memory bekommst, hast Du ja trotzdem die extreme Computer, die Du brauchst. Und ob das dann so erfolgreich wird, bleibt abzuwarten.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, da schauen wir. Also Du Du hast recht, also auch LamaTPP hat so was gemacht. Ich glaub, der große Unterschied ist einfach, dass sie das halt nur einmalig machen. Also in dem Moment, wo quasi der prompt kommt, wird einmalig das komplette Subset irgendwie ausgewählt und das in den Rahmengeladen und danach halt nicht mehr dieses Hin und Her.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, ich glaub, Du isst, Du hast\n\nSpeaker 0: definitiv irgendwie hilft.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, Du hast bestimmt Trade offs am Ende, also bei der Performance. Und was ist, wenn Du, ich weiß nicht, eine eine Follow up Frage hast und die dann, ja irgendwie in eine andere Richtung, ganz\n\nSpeaker 0: andere Richtung geht? Ja, genau. Das bleibt da bleibt da zu warten. Sie haben natürlich auch Cloud Modelle vorgestellt. Das gibt AFM Cloud, was so eher ihr ihr Model sozusagen ist für alles, was aufm aufm Server läuft.\n\nUnd dann im Prinzip mit mit diesem den sie da vorgestellt haben. Also es war ja schon länger bekannt, dass Apple auch eigenen Suchindex aufbaut. Das ist im Prinzip das, dieses World Knowledge Ding, was sie damit aufgebaut haben, was dann im Prinzip das Model unterstützt. Sie haben Cloud Image vorgestellt für diese ganzen Bildfeature, die sie ja auch gezeigt haben in der Keynote. Und es gibt Cloud Pro, das größte Modell, von dem Sie behaupten, das ist so mit Gemini Frontier Modellen vergleichbar.\n\nWie gesagt, da gibt's noch keine Benchmarks oder genauere Vergleiche. Aber das ist das, was halt so auch scheinbar ausschließlich auf NVIDIA G-Fus läuft. So, Mit der Grund, warum es dann halt auch bei bei Google läuft. Wir haben schon darüber gesprochen, ne, irgendwie 12 Gigabyte RAM und Du brauchst irgendwie 'n m 3 oder 'n m 4 Prozessor, das alles zu nutzen. Also auch schon 'n sehr harter im Vergleich zu wie lange iPhone oder macOS Hardware sonst irgendwie unterstützt wird.\n\nWas ich aber eigentlich am interessantesten fand an dieser Diskussion, ist, dass das 'n cooles Beispiel war für wie Synonym mittlerweile eigentlich Modelbezeichnung und Produktbezeichnung irgendwie einhergehen, ja. Also als sie da auf der Bühne standen und haben gesagt, na ja, wir nutzen jetzt irgendwie Gemini, hat wahrscheinlich Otto Normalverbraucher irgendwie beim Zuhören gedacht, na ja, Gemini, das ist ja dieser Google Assistant, so, den kenn ich, der kann mir Bilder machen, der kann mir irgendwie meine Planung machen, der kann in meinen Dokumenten arbeiten. Aber dass natürlich der der Gemini Assistant so nicht in Apple jetzt irgendwie drin ist, ja, sondern halt irgendwie das Gemini Modell und vielleicht auch gar nicht das Modell selbst, sondern sie haben halt nur das Modell genommen, ihr eigenes Modell zu verbessern, ne, wie auch immer sie das gemacht haben, Schwamm drüber. Aber das ist, glaub ich, was, wo man in Zukunft son bisschen lernen muss, da genauer hinzuhören oder genauer zu verstehen, was da eigentlich drunter liegt, ja. Also auch, ne, in der Diskussion, die wir am Anfang hatten, man spricht irgendwie über Fable 5, aber dass das, dass man damit vielleicht gar nicht zwangsläufig das Modell meint, weil das Produkt hintendran noch ganz andere Entscheidungen für dich trifft und 'n anderes Routing macht und je nachdem Du bei 'nem anderen Modell physisch sozusagen landen kannst und andere Tools enablet oder disablet sind, das, glaub ich, son ganz interessanter Trend, der zwar irgendwie schon immer da war, aber jetzt irgendwie immer entscheidender wird.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, bleibt spannend. Ich freu mich auf jeden Fall auf die neue Bildbearbeitungs-AI-Features, dass man noch bessere Objekte entfernen kann.\n\nSpeaker 0: Unbelogen. Ich heb seit Jahren, ich weiß nicht, wahrscheinlich schon seit 10 Jahren auch so Bilder auf, die grottig schlecht sind. Weil ich bin denk so, irgendwann müssen wir ja computermäßig weit genug sein, ja, dass Du halt sagen kannst, so, ja, dieser dieser Shot von von meinem Kind oder von 'nem Verband, von dem ich nicht viele Bilder hab oder guter Freund, keine Ahnung, das war so schlecht, aber in 'n paar Jahren, da drückst Du halt irgendwie einen Button und das ist halt, ist halt 'n gutes Foto, so, ja. Cool. Cool, wenn wir jetzt endlich irgendwie da sind.\n\nYes, das war's dann auch schon wieder. Mehr hab ich gar nicht dabei. Hast Du noch was,\n\nSpeaker 1: Philipp? Okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Dann ist das ja eine ordnungsgemäße knapp 30 Minuten Folge. Ich bin stolz auf uns. Haben wir gut gemacht, auch ohne Dennis und Fabi. Ich wollt noch, wir haben uns ja in Las Vegas gesehen auf der, ich glaub, Texas, weil wir grade über Google Rechenzentren und wo da jetzt das Apple Zeug liegt sage, will ich auch ganz kurz was zeigen. Mein Lieblings Next Merch, den ich mitgenommen hab, ist hier dieses kleine Google Tpu Rack aus Lego.\n\nIch weiß gar nicht, ob man das jetzt son\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, ich also ich hatte das nicht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Da, ja. Aber warte. Jetzt jetzt kommen, Du hast doch noch den den Chip irgendwo rumliegen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Ich hab ein Original TPU v 4, wie auch immer.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das natürlich, das ist schon 'n bisschen cooler als RTL\n\nSpeaker 1: Zeit. Decommiset wurde.\n\nSpeaker 0: Was\n\nSpeaker 1: sonst schon soll was, ist soll schon was Besonderes dann.\n\nSpeaker 0: Shots feiert für für Interieur. Wunderbar, dann Philipp, danke dir für die Zeit. Wir, also ich weiß nicht, wann wir uns das nächste Mal sehen. Vielleicht sehen wir uns auf der auf der Programmiercon. Ansonsten seht ihr wahrscheinlich hier in 2 Wochen erst mal wieder Fabio und Dennis, insofern sie wieder da sind.\n\nAnsonsten sprech ich noch mal ein. Hat mir Spaß gemacht, war cool. Tschau, tschau.",[15991,16001,16009,16022,16035,16047,16059,16071,16084,16095,16102,16107,16120,16133,16138,16150,16163,16176,16188,16198,16205,16217,16230,16241,16254,16262,16275,16288,16293,16305,16312,16325,16338,16351,16364,16371,16384,16397,16409,16418,16423,16428,16433,16438,16449,16459,16464,16471,16483,16487,16493,16505,16517,16529,16542,16554,16566,16577,16590,16602,16608,16618,16623,16628,16634,16647,16659,16672,16685,16691,16701,16709,16714,16726,16731,16735,16744,16749,16753,16758,16761,16765,16777],{"sentences":15992,"speaker":110,"num_words":16000,"start":108,"end":251},[15993,15995,15997,15999],{"text":15994,"start":108,"end":179},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen bei 1 neuen AI News Folge heute in der Ausgabe 25 des Jahres 20 26.",{"text":15996,"start":184,"end":219},"Mit mir hier im Studio ist wie immer Philipp Schmid.",{"text":15998,"start":219,"end":246},"Hallo Philipp, schön, dass Du da bist.",{"text":253,"start":250,"end":251},37,{"sentences":16002,"speaker":90,"num_words":16008,"start":256,"end":299},[16003,16004,16006],{"text":260,"start":256,"end":257},{"text":16005,"start":257,"end":267},"Das 1.",{"text":16007,"start":267,"end":299},"Mal glaubt, dass wir was zusammen aufnehmen, oder?",11,{"sentences":16010,"speaker":110,"num_words":16021,"start":303,"end":678},[16011,16013,16015,16017,16019],{"text":16012,"start":303,"end":327},"Nein, es ist nur schon Jahre her.",{"text":16014,"start":327,"end":490},"Ich hab das vorhin auch überlegt, als es es gab mal einen Moment, als Dennis, glaub ich, in Elternzeit war und Fabi irgendwie im Urlaub oder so, das muss so, weiß ich nicht, 20 23 oder so was gewesen, also das ist schon ewig, ewig lange her.",{"text":16016,"start":493,"end":515},"Da haben wir das auch schon mal gemacht.",{"text":16018,"start":519,"end":629},"Ja, weil für alle, die sich wundern, dass hier weder Dennis noch Fabi sitzen, Dennis ist im Urlaub, Kitesurfen irgendwo in Afrika oder so und was Fabi macht, hab ich ehrlicherweise keine Ahnung.",{"text":16020,"start":633,"end":678},"So, der wird auch im Urlaub sein, aber er ist auf alle Fälle heute nicht hier.",111,{"sentences":16023,"speaker":110,"num_words":16034,"start":682,"end":1002},[16024,16026,16028,16030,16032],{"text":16025,"start":682,"end":731},"Wir wollen ein bisschen sprechen über Fable, den Release beziehungsweise den Nicht Release.",{"text":16027,"start":731,"end":851},"Wir sprechen ein bisschen über Cursor, das sich zusammen mit SpaceX grade in astronomische Höhen bewegt und wir sprechen ein bisschen über Apples Foundation Modelle und alles, was wir da vielleicht noch so im Nachgang der WWDC zugehört haben.",{"text":16029,"start":854,"end":926},"Ja, da würd ich sagen, wir steigen mal direkt mit dem dem Gate, so hab ich das auf auf LinkedIn irgendwie schon betitelt gelesen.",{"text":16031,"start":930,"end":955},"Steigen wir ein, ist ja alles 'n Gate heutzutage.",{"text":16033,"start":958,"end":1002},"So, wir machen einmal den den Kurzabriss, dann können wir vielleicht im Detail noch mal reinschauen.",101,{"sentences":16036,"speaker":110,"num_words":16046,"start":1005,"end":1271},[16037,16039,16041,16043,16045],{"text":16038,"start":1005,"end":1065},"Also am neunten Juni, das war letzte Woche Dienstag, hat Antropic, Fable 5 und Mitheus released.",{"text":16040,"start":1070,"end":1141},"Benchmark natürlich wie immer megacool, 10 Prozentpunkte im SWR Benz mehr als Opos, 10 Prozent gesteigert im Terminal Bench.",{"text":16042,"start":1145,"end":1180},"Alles megacool, aber diese ganzen Benchmarks sind wahrscheinlich zweitrangig und hinfällig.",{"text":16044,"start":1184,"end":1266},"Da sprechen wir gleich drüber, weil ganze 3 Tage später, am zwölften Juni, war's das dann auch schon wieder mit Fable und Fable musste abgeschaltet werden.",{"text":1273,"start":1270,"end":1271},73,{"sentences":16048,"speaker":110,"num_words":16058,"start":1275,"end":1702},[16049,16051,16053,16054,16056],{"text":16050,"start":1275,"end":1515},"Weil die amerikanische Regierung gesagt hat so, boah, dieses Fable, das ist so sehr schwierige Software und das stellt ein Sicherheitsrisiko dar, wenn wir das exportieren und andere Nationen zugänglich machen und deshalb kann das quasi nur in US amerikanischen Händen bleiben und hat daraufhin Entropic untersagt, im Prinzip aus ausländischen Kunden und auch in den Vereinigten Staaten Ausländern zur Verfügung zu stellen, was auch in Tropics eigenen Mitarbeiter mit einschließt, so.",{"text":16052,"start":1515,"end":1620},"Und weil Tropic dann gesagt hat, na ja, wir haben jetzt auf die Schnelle keinerlei Möglichkeit zu kontrollieren, mit welcher Staatsbürgerschaft da unsere Kunden irgendwie einhergehen, haben sie das kurzerhand für alle wieder abgeschaltet.",{"text":1628,"start":1625,"end":1626},{"text":16055,"start":1631,"end":1643},"Worum ging's da genau?",{"text":16057,"start":1646,"end":1702},"So hundertprozentig genau kann man das gar nicht sagen, weil die amerikanische Regierung für diese Entscheidung im Prinzip niemandem Rechenschaft schuldet.",132,{"sentences":16060,"speaker":110,"num_words":1413,"start":1702,"end":2189},[16061,16063,16065,16067,16069],{"text":16062,"start":1702,"end":1758},"So, sie kann das ad hoc selber entscheiden, da gibt's auch keinen offiziellen Widerspruchsprozess oder so was.",{"text":16064,"start":1758,"end":1856},"Es sind jetzt wohl zwar Leute von den Tropic in Washington, irgendwie da mit Regierungsvertretern zu sprechen, aber im Prinzip ist das eine Entscheidung, ich sag mal so, nach Lust und Laune.",{"text":16066,"start":1860,"end":1914},"Und es dreht sich son bisschen diese Frage, wie einfach und schwerwiegend so Fable 5 zu Jailbreaking ist.",{"text":16068,"start":1914,"end":2115},"Also was En tropic ja gemacht hat, ist ähnlich wie Mytheus, was sie ja als so zu powerful für die Allgemeinheit irgendwie abgestempelt haben, zu sagen, na ja, wir bauen hier son paar Guardrails ein und wenn Du schwierige, gefährliche, illegale, wie auch immer Anfragen an das Model stellst, klickst Du im Prinzip nur in Anführungszeichen die Antwort von Opus 4 8.",{"text":16070,"start":2115,"end":2189},"Es gibt quasi den Fallback auf ein weniger capeable Model und ja, das war so ihr Workaround quasi, dieses Problem zu umgehen.",{"sentences":16072,"speaker":110,"num_words":16083,"start":2192,"end":2517},[16073,16075,16077,16079,16081],{"text":16074,"start":2192,"end":2258},"Wie bei vielen von diesen Modellen, wenn man kreativ genug ist, kann man da halt Jailbreaks befinden und irgendwie auch diese Guardrails umgehen.",{"text":16076,"start":2262,"end":2434},"Deutschland diesen einen, dieses eine Beispiel, was so auf Twitter son bisschen kursiert ist, war so, na ja, wenn Du nutzen willst, irgendwie Sicherheitslücken zu finden, ähnlich wie das ja mit Mythos schon länger gemacht wird, dann wirfst Du ihm einfach die Code Base hin und sagst Du, hey, helfen wir doch mal, diesen Code zu fixen, so.",{"text":16078,"start":2434,"end":2447},"Einfach nur fixedus Code.",{"text":16080,"start":2451,"end":2500},"Und dann findet er natürlich son paar Run Time Bugs, aber halt auch Security Exploits, so.",{"text":16082,"start":2503,"end":2517},"Und das war im Prinzip schon alles.",108,{"sentences":16085,"speaker":110,"num_words":16058,"start":2520,"end":2914},[16086,16088,16090,16091,16093],{"text":16087,"start":2520,"end":2598},"Das bisschen perfide an dieser Sache ist, dass der Tipp dazu an die US Regierung wohl aus Amazons Cyber Security Research Lab gekommen ist.",{"text":16089,"start":2598,"end":2735},"Und das ist natürlich schon son bisschen komisch, weil Amazon ist ja meines Wissens nach immer noch der größte Einzelinvestor in Intropic, so und dass sie denen da jetzt quasi so den den Riegel vorschieben und da so an die Karre fahren, das ist natürlich 'n bisschen schwierig.",{"text":1628,"start":2739,"end":2740},{"text":16092,"start":2742,"end":2799},"Antropic beruft sich darauf, dass sie sagen, na ja, es gibt keinen hundertprozentigen Security keinen hundertprozentigen Safecard gegen Jailbreak.",{"text":16094,"start":2803,"end":2914},"Die Jailbreak, die hier demonstriert worden sind und auch die anderen, die so kursieren, funktionieren auch in vielen der anderen Modellen, die da draußen so sind, also auch in GPT 5 5 gibt's da Demos, für dass sie da funktionieren.",{"sentences":16096,"speaker":110,"num_words":16101,"start":2918,"end":3033},[16097,16099],{"text":16098,"start":2918,"end":2973},"Und das wär jetzt quasi nicht gravierend genug, als dass das so so diesen diesen Bann irgendwie rechtfertigen könnte.",{"text":16100,"start":2976,"end":3033},"Ja, das vielleicht mal so die die 3 Sekunden Summary und Dreihundertste hast Du Dreihundertste 300 Sekunden.",36,{"sentences":16103,"speaker":90,"num_words":16106,"start":3036,"end":3083},[16104],{"text":16105,"start":3036,"end":3083},"Also hast Du die Möglichkeit, Faible 5 zu testen während den 3 Tagen, wo es da war?",17,{"sentences":16108,"speaker":110,"num_words":16119,"start":3086,"end":3215},[16109,16111,16113,16115,16117],{"text":16110,"start":3086,"end":3093},"Ja, tatsächlich.",{"text":16112,"start":3093,"end":3105},"Ich hab's auch benutzt.",{"text":16114,"start":3105,"end":3138},"Ich hab auch sehr schnell mein mein Token Limit Okay.",{"text":16116,"start":3143,"end":3154},"Dadurch aufgebraucht im Prinzip.",{"text":16118,"start":3154,"end":3215},"Ich hab so ganz banale Designsachen gemacht, muss ich sagen, weil man das ja auch in Cloud Design schon nutzen konnte.",41,{"sentences":16121,"speaker":110,"num_words":16132,"start":3219,"end":3621},[16122,16124,16126,16128,16130],{"text":16123,"start":3219,"end":3294},"Und weil Design so mit einem meiner größten Schwächen ist, hab ich gesagt, okay, je mehr Intelligence ich da drauf werfen kann, umso besser.",{"text":16125,"start":3294,"end":3407},"Es hat auch echt coole Ergebnisse geliefert, muss ich sagen, aber es war halt schon deutlich langsamer als Opos vorher und wie gesagt, also mein Token Limit war nach anderthalb Features, die ich gebaut hab, war's halt auch einfach weg.",{"text":16127,"start":3410,"end":3451},"Vielleicht noch ein Satz zur Einleitung, weil ich gesagt hab, diese ganzen Benchmarks sind vielleicht jetzt hinfällig.",{"text":16129,"start":3454,"end":3570},"Es kann natürlich sein, dass die Lösung auf diese Situation ist, dass bei seinen Guardrails irgendwie nachschärfen muss und in mehr oder anderen Fällen quasi diesen Fallback auf Opus 4 5 dann bringen muss Und das kann natürlich dann auch die Benchmark Ergebnisse wieder ändern, ja.",{"text":16131,"start":3570,"end":3621},"Also alle Benchmark Ergebnisse, die wir zu Release gesehen haben, würde ich jetzt noch mal mit Vorsicht genießen.",145,{"sentences":16134,"speaker":110,"num_words":16137,"start":3621,"end":3655},[16135],{"text":16136,"start":3621,"end":3655},"Sollte man vielleicht dann, wenn es wieder verfügbar ist, sich noch mal anschauen.",13,{"sentences":16139,"speaker":90,"num_words":16149,"start":3655,"end":3831},[16140,16141,16143,16145,16147],{"text":3661,"start":3655,"end":3658},{"text":16142,"start":3658,"end":3672},"So, Philipp, dein Take.",{"text":16144,"start":3672,"end":3719},"Ja, es, also ich war beeindruckt beim Modell und ich hab auch sehr viel positiv gelesen.",{"text":16146,"start":3719,"end":3819},"Und ich weiß nicht, ob Du's am Anfang erwähnt hast, aber als es released war, haben sie ein paar, also auch mit veröffentlicht und das war jetzt doppelt so teuer wie Opus 4 Punkt 8.",{"text":16148,"start":3819,"end":3831},"Also deswegen wahrscheinlich auch mehr.",61,{"sentences":16151,"speaker":90,"num_words":16162,"start":3835,"end":4163},[16152,16154,16156,16158,16160],{"text":16153,"start":3835,"end":3926},"Und der eigentliche Plan war am Anfang, dass man das bis zweiundzwanzigsten Juni 'n Cloud Code ja zur Verfügung hat oder halt eine Cloud Subscriptions und danach dafür API Pricing zahlen müsste.",{"text":16155,"start":3930,"end":3944},"Schade, dass es nicht mehr verfügbar ist.",{"text":16157,"start":3944,"end":4003},"Mich hätt sehr gerne interessiert, wie sich das alles ausarbeitet, ob dann, also wie Leute damit umgehen und es nutzen werden.",{"text":16159,"start":4003,"end":4094},"Weil wir hatten, glaub ich, in der letzten Folge das Thema mit, hey, AI Kosten werden immer höher und Unternehmen fahren halt schon wieder zurück und haben haben die die Leute zu früh entlassen.",{"text":16161,"start":4098,"end":4163},"Und hey, jeder bekommt irgendwie, keine Ahnung, 3000 Dollar und darf die dann ausgeben für whatever AI, dass er halt irgendwie braucht.",116,{"sentences":16164,"speaker":90,"num_words":16175,"start":4163,"end":4405},[16165,16167,16169,16171,16173],{"text":16166,"start":4163,"end":4207},"Deswegen schade, dass da, sag ich mal, die US Regierung uns son bisschen insights weggenommen hat.",{"text":16168,"start":4210,"end":4297},"Und an sich find ich's 'n schwieriges Thema, weil ich mein, Antopic ist ja dafür bekannt, dass sie immer sehr stark dafür Werbung machen, dass alles Risiko ist und wir mehr brauchen.",{"text":16170,"start":4301,"end":4314},"Und jetzt werden sie irgendwie reguliert.",{"text":16172,"start":4317,"end":4364},"Und vor 2 Monaten hatten sie ihr gesagt, hey, wir können Mythos nicht releasen, ist zu gefährlich.",{"text":16174,"start":4368,"end":4405},"Jetzt haben sie Mythos doch released unter, aber mit diesen extra Guardrails außenrum.",84,{"sentences":16177,"speaker":90,"num_words":16132,"start":4409,"end":4787},[16178,16180,16182,16184,16186],{"text":16179,"start":4409,"end":4446},"Und ich mein, wir haben ja, wir wissen ja alle, dass Guardrails nicht 100 Prozent funktionieren.",{"text":16181,"start":4449,"end":4523},"Also selbst wenn sie jetzt irgendwie was zusätzlich machen für irgendwas im Coding Bereich, dann wirst Du schon wieder irgendwelche Leute haben, die das dann irgendwie versuchen zu umgehen.",{"text":16183,"start":4523,"end":4597},"Klar, der Großteil wird dafür irgendwie nicht verwendet, aber dann auf der anderen Seite weiß ich halt auch wieder nicht, ob also ob das das Ziel davon ist.",{"text":16185,"start":4597,"end":4693},"Also wenn ich 'n Modell hab, was an sich extrem gut ist, was zweimal so viel kostet, aber ich nie garantieren kann bei meinem Prompt, den ich benutze, ob das wirklich dann das normale Modell ist oder nicht.",{"text":16187,"start":4693,"end":4787},"Und man weiß ja, egal ob ich jetzt Cloud nutze oder GPT oder Gemini, ich muss immer gewiss 'n bisschen anders promptden und ich lern auch 'n bisschen, wie ich mit den Modellen umgehe.",{"sentences":16189,"speaker":90,"num_words":915,"start":4787,"end":5024},[16190,16192,16194,16196],{"text":16191,"start":4787,"end":4845},"Und das, wenn ich dann sone Art hab, wo man nie genau weiß, was wirklich kommt, ist es schon schwieriger.",{"text":16193,"start":4845,"end":4890},"Also ich bin mal gespannt, wie's weitergeht, weil wir wissen alle, die Performance wird nicht schlechter.",{"text":16195,"start":4894,"end":4980},"Und ich bin mir sicher, dass Open AI oder dass Gemini alle nachholen oder aufholen oder dass selbst, sag ich mal, Open Waidts Modelle zu dem Punkt halt irgendwann kommen werden.",{"text":16197,"start":4980,"end":5024},"Und dann ist halt die Frage, wie man damit umgeht und was man bis dahin halt lernen oder machen kann.",{"sentences":16199,"speaker":110,"num_words":16204,"start":5027,"end":5338},[16200,16202],{"text":16201,"start":5027,"end":5237},"Eine der Antworten von war ja auch, dass Sie von Anfang an gesagt haben, wir führen hier diese 30 Tage Data Retention Policy ein, die's ja so vorher nicht gab, quasi selbst, wenn Du einen Jailbreak findest oder irgendeinen auf dieses Modell quasi fährst, dass sie das im Worst Case im Nachhinein feststellen können und dann halt irgendwie deinen Account bestrikten, bannen, isolieren, wie auch immer irgendwie können.",{"text":16203,"start":5237,"end":5338},"Und das war ja auch schon Grund genug für die ein oder andere große Corporate Kunden irgendwie zu sagen, so, das nutzen wir immer erst mal nicht, weil wir halt mit dieser Data Retention irgendwie nicht einverstanden sollen.",106,{"sentences":16206,"speaker":90,"num_words":16058,"start":5338,"end":5684},[16207,16209,16211,16213,16215],{"text":16208,"start":5338,"end":5426},"Aber ich sag mal, wenn wir bei dem Beispiel bleiben, was irgendwo halt geteilt wird, wo man nicht sicher ist, ob das wirklich stimmt oder nicht mit, hey, fix und dann findet der Security.",{"text":16210,"start":5429,"end":5442},"Das ist eine ganz normale Entwickleraufgabe.",{"text":16212,"start":5446,"end":5548},"Also ich weiß nicht, wenn ich irgendwo an 'nem großen Projekt arbeite oder war's 'n komplexes Projekt arbeite, sei es selbst sogar 'n Betriebssystem, weil am Ende wollen wir AI dafür nutzen, sag ich mal, mehr oder weniger.",{"text":16214,"start":5551,"end":5608},"Und wenn die AI gut ist, diese Bugs zu fixen, dann ist das ja, Du hast ja immer die gute Seite und die schlechte Seite.",{"text":16216,"start":5608,"end":5684},"Und es wär ja schlecht, wenn beide Seiten irgendwie, sag ich mal, dadurch reguliert werden würden, weil die böse Seite ist normalerweise, also in dem Fall böse in Anführungszeichen.",{"sentences":16218,"speaker":90,"num_words":16229,"start":5684,"end":6017},[16219,16221,16223,16225,16227],{"text":16220,"start":5684,"end":5791},"Aber klar, die Leute, die dich hacken wollen oder damit irgendwas erbußen wollen, die sind meistens offener gegenüber solchen als die guten Seiten, weil die gute Seite möchte natürlich in den Service bleiben oder halt nichts irgendwas Falsches machen.",{"text":16222,"start":5791,"end":5842},"Das heißt, das ist ja doppelt schlecht in dem Sinne, wenn wir da Also ich bin ich bin's spannend.",{"text":16224,"start":5842,"end":5865},"Ich find's auf jeden Fall interessant zu verfolgen.",{"text":16226,"start":5868,"end":5963},"Ich glaub, das wird sich in den nächsten ein, 2 Wochen einiges ergeben, weil ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass das einfach unterm Tisch verschwindet und das Modell nie released wird oder was Sie da machen.",{"text":16228,"start":5963,"end":6017},"Vielleicht nennen Sie's auch einfach Opus 4 Punkt 9 und keine Ahnung, Pricing oder erhöht oder so was.",120,{"sentences":16231,"speaker":90,"num_words":16240,"start":6017,"end":6322},[16232,16234,16236,16238],{"text":16233,"start":6017,"end":6094},"Also ja, ich meine, auf der anderen Sicht ist ja auch wieder noch vielleicht als letzter Punkt interessant, hätten Sie's nicht released, hätten Sie's ja intern weiter nutzen können.",{"text":16235,"start":6094,"end":6182},"Also an Tropic oder andere Unternehmen könnten ja das Modell, wenn sie's trainiert haben und wenn das als Risiko eingestuft werden würde zum Release, ja einfach intern nutzen, sich dann ja selber zu verbessern.",{"text":16237,"start":6182,"end":6263},"Klar, kommst Du irgendwann in die Gefahr, wir können das nicht finanzieren und wir brauchen Kunden von außen und wir brauchen Feedback von außen und wir brauchen mehr Evaluierungen und alles andere.",{"text":16239,"start":6267,"end":6322},"Aber ich weiß nicht, ob die sich dann 'n bisschen aufn aufn aufn Finger gerade beißen, dass sie das schon released haben.",117,{"sentences":16242,"speaker":110,"num_words":16253,"start":6324,"end":6769},[16243,16245,16247,16249,16251],{"text":16244,"start":6324,"end":6387},"Also was ja auch grade jetzt hier in Europa so Teil von dem Diskurs war, da ging's wieder Abhängigkeit von US Tech Konzernen.",{"text":16246,"start":6391,"end":6446},"Da ging's oh oh mein Gott, mein mein Businessmodell ist irgendwie gefährdet, weil ich jetzt hier irgendwie Access verloren hab.",{"text":16248,"start":6450,"end":6536},"Und da, also ich hab das gelesen so auf verschiedenen Social Media Kanälen und dachte mir auch nur so, wenn wenn das dein Problem ist, dann hast Du halt irgendwas grundsätzlich falsch verstanden.",{"text":16250,"start":6539,"end":6663},"Ich glaube, das muss man vielleicht auch mal sagen, so also a, wenn dein Business gefährdet ist, weil 'n Model, was irgendwie 72 Stunden da war, jetzt nicht mehr da ist, dann hast Du vielleicht irgendwie aufs falsche Pferd gesetzt und nicht so gut irgendwie hier Risikoabwägung betrieben.",{"text":16252,"start":6666,"end":6769},"Und auch ansonsten, glaube ich, also so so gern ich einzelne dieser Models irgendwie mag oder auch irgendwie super cool finde, am Ende muss es ja für dich aus aus Business Sicht ja eigentlich sone Commodity sein, ja?",162,{"sentences":16255,"speaker":110,"num_words":16034,"start":6769,"end":7039},[16256,16258,16260],{"text":16257,"start":6769,"end":6848},"Also genauso wie wenn jetzt, weiß ich nicht, heute, weiß ich nicht, Microsoft SQL sagen würde so, ja, machen wir nicht mehr, gibt's nicht mehr in Europa, ja?",{"text":16259,"start":6848,"end":6893},"Dann musst Du halt irgendwie auf Postress oder Mysequuqueline wechseln können oder keine Ahnung, ja?",{"text":16261,"start":6893,"end":7039},"Und genauso, wenn jetzt in Tromic morgen sagen würde, wir machen gar keine Modelle mehr in Europa, dann muss es dir ja irgendwie möglich sein, dass Du halt sagst, na ja, wir nutzen halt irgendwas anderes, aber es hängt nicht 100 Prozent von unserem Business daran, dass dieses eine Modell von diesem einen speziellen Anbieter irgendwie da ist.",{"sentences":16263,"speaker":90,"num_words":16274,"start":7041,"end":7333},[16264,16266,16268,16270,16272],{"text":16265,"start":7041,"end":7089},"Ja, es klappt alles 'n bisschen schwierig, weil wir halt in soner sehr schnelllebigen technologischen Welt sind.",{"text":16267,"start":7089,"end":7165},"Ich mein, wenn man da, keine Ahnung, gehst Du 15 Jahre zurück und stell dir vor, Oracle sagt, ja, Du darfst Java Enterprise nicht mehr in Europa nutzen.",{"text":16269,"start":7165,"end":7187},"Dann werden ja auch ganz viele Unternehmen erst mal.",{"text":16271,"start":7190,"end":7276},"Und klar, ist das kein guter Vergleich, weil das eine ist eine Sprache, das andere ist irgendwie 'n Produkt oder irgendwie so was, aber Du hast ja trotzdem Lizenzen für für das gekauft.",{"text":16273,"start":7280,"end":7333},"Und ich glaub, es bleibt einfach abzuwarten und ich geh davon aus, dass man mehr davon in der Zukunft sieht.",107,{"sentences":16276,"speaker":90,"num_words":16287,"start":7333,"end":7573},[16277,16279,16281,16283,16285],{"text":16278,"start":7333,"end":7346},"Also eher als eher weniger.",{"text":16280,"start":7346,"end":7425},"Also ich glaub nicht, dass wir regulatorisch oder gesellschaftlich da jetzt sagen, hey, okay, das war jetzt einmal der Fall, Modelle sind halt so und dann mal schauen, wo's hingeht.",{"text":16282,"start":7425,"end":7481},"Also ich glaub, man wird, nee, die Welt wird eher verrückter, als dass sie stabiler wird, umso besser die KI Modelle werden.",{"text":16284,"start":7483,"end":7539},"Und umso besser die werden, umso andere Risiken kommen ab und umso eher muss man halt auch Prioritäten anpassen oder andere Dinge.",{"text":16286,"start":7539,"end":7573},"Und dann ist sind's, glaub, keine schwere Entscheidung, die auf Unternehmen zukommen.",91,{"sentences":16289,"speaker":90,"num_words":16292,"start":7573,"end":7653},[16290],{"text":16291,"start":7573,"end":7653},"Weil wenn der der Konkurrent das halt irgendwie einführt und dann alle Kunden da hinspringen und man halt selber 'n bisschen langsamer ist und vorsichtiger, dann ist es es wird schwierig.",31,{"sentences":16294,"speaker":110,"num_words":16304,"start":7655,"end":7916},[16295,16297,16299,16301,16303],{"text":16296,"start":7655,"end":7728},"Ja, das ist sicherlich eine Risikoabwägung, aber ich glaube halt, also ganz ganz simpel gesagt, so mein Mitleid hält sich son bisschen in Grenzen für die Fälle.",{"text":16298,"start":7728,"end":7795},"Weil ich glaub, wie Du sagst, ich glaub, als Unternehmen bist Du's dir halt irgendwie schon schuldig, da son bisschen Contingency planning zu machen, ja.",{"text":16300,"start":7795,"end":7855},"Und halt nicht dann mit runtergelassener Hose dazustehen, wenn das passiert, weil ich bin voll badyos wird irgendwie wieder passieren, ja.",{"text":16302,"start":7855,"end":7912},"Ob das jetzt aus regulatorischer Sicht, aus Marktsicht, aus irgendwo anders herkommt, aber es wird nicht das letzte Mal gewesen sein.",{"text":3661,"start":7915,"end":7916},95,{"sentences":16306,"speaker":110,"num_words":16311,"start":7916,"end":8014},[16307,16309],{"text":16308,"start":7916,"end":8000},"Ah, wenn wir schon bei großen amerikanischen Firmen sind, dann lass uns doch über, oh Gott, will will ich über SpaceX reden oder reden wir erst mal nur über Cursor.",{"text":16310,"start":8004,"end":8014},"So, ich weiß nicht.",34,{"sentences":16313,"speaker":90,"num_words":16324,"start":8014,"end":8284},[16314,16316,16318,16320,16322],{"text":16315,"start":8014,"end":8030},"Ja, ich, das hängt ja zusammen.",{"text":16317,"start":8030,"end":8144},"Also Cursor kennen ja hoffentlich alle mittlerweile, ist 'n AI Start-up, was 'n 'n mit 'nem VS Code Folge angefangen hat und dann, sag ich mal, sich immer weiterentwickelt hat, eigene Modelle trainiert hat, jetzt eine Agentic IDE hat.",{"text":16319,"start":8147,"end":8180},"Sehr cool eigentlich, was sie gemacht haben, vor allem mit den Composer Modellen.",{"text":16321,"start":8183,"end":8217},"Und vorn paar Monaten hatten wir, glaub ich, auch in der in den News.",{"text":16323,"start":8217,"end":8284},"Es ging das Gerücht drum so, hey, SpaceX möchte Cursor kaufen und am Anfang war's nur noch sone, sag ich mal, eine Training Kollaboration.",96,{"sentences":16326,"speaker":90,"num_words":16337,"start":8289,"end":8645},[16327,16329,16331,16333,16335],{"text":16328,"start":8289,"end":8366},"Aber gestern war in, also letzten Freitag war der SpaceX IPO, also man kann jetzt SpaceX Aktien kaufen, der auch scheinbar sehr positiv verlaufen ist für alle aktuell.",{"text":16330,"start":8369,"end":8394},"Und gestern war in San Francisco die Cursor Compile.",{"text":16332,"start":8398,"end":8494},"Und die Cursor Compile ist 'n jährliches Event von Cursor in Person, gibt keine Livestream, wo sie halt 'n bisschen darüber zählen, was sie machen wollen, wo's hingeht, neue Features vorstellen, neue Produkte vorstellen.",{"text":16334,"start":8497,"end":8589},"Am gleichen Tag wurde dann aber auch veröffentlicht, dass SpaceX jetzt Curse kauft oder erquirert zu dem Deal, was sie am Anfang vereinbart haben, welcher 60000000000 in all Stock ist.",{"text":16336,"start":8589,"end":8645},"Also CursA bekommt dann mehr oder weniger SpaceX Stocks Aktien im Wert von 60000000000, was 'n kein schlechter Deal ist.",121,{"sentences":16339,"speaker":90,"num_words":16350,"start":8645,"end":8897},[16340,16342,16344,16346,16348],{"text":16341,"start":8645,"end":8659},"Ja, gar kein schlechter Deal ist.",{"text":16343,"start":8659,"end":8742},"Hoffen wir mal, dass die SpaceX Aktie so bleibt und nicht irgendwie 150 Prozent fällt und dann aus den 60000000000 nur 10000000000 werden, aber wär trotzdem noch kein schlechter Deal, sag ich mal.",{"text":16345,"start":8742,"end":8775},"Und sie haben es ernannt, dass sie zusammen Modelle trainieren wollen, die sind.",{"text":16347,"start":8778,"end":8836},"Also nicht nur developer orientiert, sondern wirklich einfach AI Modelle und werden natürlich in C Cursor oder auch in integriert.",{"text":16349,"start":8839,"end":8897},"Und jetzt zeig ich mal die spannenden Themen von der CursOR Compilee, die vielleicht für alle CursOR Anwender cool sind oder generell.",94,{"sentences":16352,"speaker":90,"num_words":16363,"start":8900,"end":9247},[16353,16355,16357,16359,16361],{"text":16354,"start":8900,"end":8977},"Sie haben 'n neues Modell angekündigt, 'n größeres Modell als, was Sie komplett selbst trainiert haben auf 100000 GPS zusammen mit SpaceX beziehungsweise auf der XEA Infrastruktur.",{"text":16356,"start":8981,"end":9001},"Und das soll in den nächsten Wochen released werden.",{"text":16358,"start":9001,"end":9070},"Sie haben gesagt, so zwischen 1 und 1.5 Trillionen beziehungsweise Billionen Parameter dann, also 'n bisschen größer als die aktuellen Modelle, die sich nutzen.",{"text":16360,"start":9072,"end":9204},"Und dann die interessanten Themen es sind, Sie haben eine GitHub Konkurrenten vorgestellt mit Origin, was eine Agent Native Kit Plattform sein soll, komplett neu aufgebaut auf, sag ich mal, neuen Technologien, die mit den ganzen Anforderungen von Agents halt besser klarkommen.",{"text":16362,"start":9204,"end":9247},"Das heißt, sie haben High Performance mit irgendwie 22 pro Sekunde auf einem",115,{"sentences":16365,"speaker":110,"num_words":16370,"start":9249,"end":9262},[16366,16367,16368],{"text":852,"start":9249,"end":9250},{"text":3661,"start":9250,"end":9254},{"text":16369,"start":9257,"end":9262},"Schon krass.",4,{"sentences":16372,"speaker":90,"num_words":16383,"start":9265,"end":9500},[16373,16375,16377,16379,16381],{"text":16374,"start":9265,"end":9278},"Jetzt haben trotzdem fully.",{"text":16376,"start":9282,"end":9401},"Also soll, so wie ich's verstanden hab, als 1 zu 1 Replacement relativ einfach funktionieren, aber sie wollen dann auch ganz viel außen rum halt bauen, was angeht, wie ich Agents integrieren kann ins Review, wie ich Merch Konflikte ganz einfach lösen kann.",{"text":16378,"start":9404,"end":9429},"Alles halt, was, sag ich mal, eher mehr agentenfreudig wird.",{"text":16380,"start":9429,"end":9483},"Aktuell gibt's nur eine Waitlist, Kann man sich einschreiben auf cursor dot com Slash Origin das Waitlist.",{"text":16382,"start":9486,"end":9500},"Man braucht allerdings seine Work-E-Mail.",79,{"sentences":16385,"speaker":90,"num_words":16396,"start":9504,"end":9663},[16386,16388,16390,16392,16394],{"text":16387,"start":9504,"end":9544},"Also wenn man versucht, mit der normalen Gmail sich anzumellen, dann geht's leider nicht.",{"text":16389,"start":9546,"end":9555},"Auf jeden Fall gespannt.",{"text":16391,"start":9559,"end":9572},"Es wird gebaut von den Menschen.",{"text":16393,"start":9576,"end":9650},"War Start-up, das hat vor 'n paar Monaten, die's so on top auf gebaut haben und kommen jetzt dann sozusagen auf GitHub hinzugefügt haben.",{"text":16395,"start":9650,"end":9663},"Liegt auf jeden Fall interessant.",53,{"sentences":16398,"speaker":90,"num_words":16408,"start":9663,"end":9903},[16399,16401,16403,16405,16406],{"text":16400,"start":9663,"end":9682},"Ich bin mal gespannt, was dabei rumkommt.",{"text":16402,"start":9685,"end":9720},"Und dann das andere, was Sie noch angekündigt haben, es gibt eine CursA Mobile App.",{"text":16404,"start":9720,"end":9882},"Also CursA hat ja zu der IDI auch Cloud Agents und jetzt soll's eine Mobile App geben, wo man ganz easy mit ihnen zusammenarbeiten kann, beziehungsweise auch so ähnlich wie bei Code Code oder Codex dann auf seinem lokalen PC was starten kann und dann von seinem, von seiner App aus, den's das mehr oder weniger kommt, ja, steuern kann.",{"text":9888,"start":9884,"end":9885},{"text":16407,"start":9890,"end":9903},"Also bleibt auf jeden Fall spannend.",89,{"sentences":16410,"speaker":90,"num_words":16417,"start":9903,"end":10015},[16411,16413,16415],{"text":16412,"start":9903,"end":9965},"Vielleicht haben wir mit Cursor plus SpaceX jetzt 'n vierten Akteur, sag ich mal, der sich da vorne mit rumbewegt, was definitiv gut ist.",{"text":16414,"start":9965,"end":9979},"Mehr Konkurrenz ist immer gut.",{"text":16416,"start":9982,"end":10015},"Vielleicht ist dann Cloud Faible auch irgendwann nicht mehr zu und man kann es nutzen.",44,{"sentences":16419,"speaker":110,"num_words":16422,"start":10017,"end":10090},[16420],{"text":16421,"start":10017,"end":10090},"Ja, also SpaceX wirkt irgendwie so wie die einzig profitabel, also ist ja nicht mal profitabel, aber die einzig gut laufende Firma von Elon Musk, mit der jetzt",28,{"sentences":16424,"speaker":90,"num_words":16427,"start":10092,"end":10108},[16425],{"text":16426,"start":10092,"end":10108},"einfach alle anderen Sachen aufkauft, die",6,{"sentences":16429,"speaker":110,"num_words":16432,"start":10108,"end":10161},[16430],{"text":16431,"start":10108,"end":10161},"eben so irgendwie liegen, nachdem er ja erst irgendwie XAI da reingeschmissen hat und jetzt irgendwie sie da kommt",19,{"sentences":16434,"speaker":90,"num_words":16437,"start":10161,"end":10232},[16435],{"text":16436,"start":10161,"end":10232},"ja erst Twitter zu x, dann x Inside XAI, xAI Inside SpaceX und Freitag zum ersten Billionär auf der Welt gemacht.",21,{"sentences":16439,"speaker":110,"num_words":16448,"start":10234,"end":10395},[16440,16442,16443,16444,16446],{"text":16441,"start":10234,"end":10259},"Ja, ja, traurig, aber war, was soll man sagen?",{"text":3661,"start":10259,"end":10262},{"text":10268,"start":10265,"end":10266},{"text":16445,"start":10266,"end":10318},"Aber ich meine, ich ich find's, es ist ja trotzdem 'n krasser Indikator dafür, dass da dieser da ist, ja?",{"text":16447,"start":10318,"end":10395},"Also ich mein, natürlich hat SpaceX jetzt mit dem IPO genug irgendwie Cash in in Form von Stock, aber sie machen das ja auch nicht aus Jux und Tollerei.",60,{"sentences":16450,"speaker":110,"num_words":16204,"start":10395,"end":10672},[16451,16453,16455,16457],{"text":16452,"start":10395,"end":10517},"Also sie scheinen da ja schon irgendwie den den Markt zu sehen und sie haben das ja auch, ich glaub, in der Pressemitteilung von SpaceX dann so beschrieben, wie groß sie diesen Markt halt irgendwie eigentlich einschätzen und dass dafür diese 60000000000 halt eigentlich so ein Tropfen irgendwie sind.",{"text":16454,"start":10519,"end":10555},"Und dass sie halt schon sagen, na ja, wir sind ja eigentlich in 'ner guten Position.",{"text":16456,"start":10555,"end":10646},"Wir haben ja auch in den letzten paar Wochen immer mal wieder gehört, dass XAI Space X superviel Compouted Power irgendwie grade ausmietet an und an Google, glaub ich, sogar auch oder?",{"text":16458,"start":10646,"end":10672},"Nee, nicht, Google an und wer war der andere?",{"sentences":16460,"speaker":90,"num_words":16463,"start":10672,"end":10695},[16461],{"text":16462,"start":10672,"end":10695},"Also Curse auf jeden Fall und ansonsten weiß ich's nicht.",10,{"sentences":16465,"speaker":110,"num_words":16470,"start":10697,"end":10824},[16466,16468],{"text":16467,"start":10697,"end":10734},"Ja, und da da halt, ne, im im Prinzip ja brachliegende Kapazitäten hat.",{"text":16469,"start":10734,"end":10824},"Und wenn sie jetzt quasi mit mit Cursor 'n Produkt ins Haus bekommen, wo sie das selber nutzen können, irgendwie was damit zu bauen, ist ja für für Cursor und für Erwachsene ja eigentlich nur cool.",49,{"sentences":16472,"speaker":90,"num_words":16482,"start":10827,"end":11044},[16473,16475,16477,16479,16480],{"text":16474,"start":10827,"end":10901},"Ja, ich glaub, das Einzige, was son bisschen schwierig, ich hab das gestern gesehen, dass durch die Aktienbewertung ist SpaceX jetzt aktuell Platz 4 oder 5 der größten Unternehmen.",{"text":16476,"start":10905,"end":10965},"Und die ersten 4 sind halt Nvidia, Alphabet, Apple, Microsoft und dann wird da SpaceX aktuell gelistet, je nachdem, wo die Aktie steht.",{"text":16478,"start":10968,"end":11019},"Und alle von den ersten 4 haben halt über 100000000000 US Dollar Net Income, also Billionen in in US Dollars.",{"text":3661,"start":11019,"end":11022},{"text":16481,"start":11022,"end":11044},"Und SpaceX hat halt 5000000000 negativ Net Income.",81,{"sentences":16484,"speaker":110,"num_words":16427,"start":11048,"end":11064},[16485],{"text":16486,"start":11048,"end":11064},"Ja, das ist halt 'n Bild.",{"sentences":16488,"speaker":90,"num_words":16492,"start":11067,"end":11117},[16489,16490],{"text":3661,"start":11067,"end":11068},{"text":16491,"start":11068,"end":11117},"Aber es ist auf jeden Fall eine spannende Zeit und mich freut's ganz sehr für die ganzen großer Menschen.",20,{"sentences":16494,"speaker":110,"num_words":16396,"start":11119,"end":11274},[16495,16497,16499,16501,16503],{"text":16496,"start":11119,"end":11139},"Ja, alles hab's ja grad wieder gefunden.",{"text":16498,"start":11139,"end":11196},"Also es sind tatsächlich Google und, die beide bei SpaceX Computer grade kaufen für fast 2000000000 im Monat kombiniert.",{"text":16500,"start":11199,"end":11214},"Das ist auch 'n gutes Geschäftsmodell.",{"text":16502,"start":11218,"end":11265},"So, wenn man einfach sehr früh viel Hardware gekauft hat oder sich Kapazität gesichert hat, die man dann Ja.",{"text":16504,"start":11268,"end":11274},"Weiterververmieten kann.",{"sentences":16506,"speaker":110,"num_words":16516,"start":11274,"end":11450},[16507,16508,16510,16512,16514],{"text":11279,"start":11274,"end":11277},{"text":16509,"start":11281,"end":11328},"Wenn wir schon über Google Hardware und AI sprechen, können wir auch noch 'n bisschen über Apple Intelligence sprechen.",{"text":16511,"start":11331,"end":11360},"Da war ja letzte Woche erst, das fühlt sich alles so.",{"text":16513,"start":11360,"end":11388},"Es ist so viel passiert in den in den letzten paar Tagen.",{"text":16515,"start":11391,"end":11450},"Letzte Woche war WWDC und Apple hat erwartungsgemäß vorgestellt, dass sie ein ein neues Siri gebaut haben und das mithilfe von Google.",65,{"sentences":16518,"speaker":110,"num_words":16204,"start":11454,"end":11752},[16519,16521,16523,16525,16527],{"text":16520,"start":11454,"end":11492},"Und das war im Prinzip auch schon alles, was sie so in der Keynote dazu gesagt haben.",{"text":16522,"start":11492,"end":11540},"So ja, wir haben das mit Google gemacht und jetzt ist es ja irgendwie schöner, besser, weiter höher.",{"text":16524,"start":11544,"end":11630},"Nach der Keynote hat Apple noch einen dedizierten Tech Talk dazu gehalten, der nur in Person war mit eingeladenen Journalisten on the record, aber halt eben nicht recordd, so.",{"text":16526,"start":11630,"end":11685},"Von daher müssen wir son bisschen uns die einzelnen Details zusammenpicken, was da so verschiedene Plattformen zu veröffentlicht haben.",{"text":16528,"start":11687,"end":11752},"Ich hab mir son paar Einzelpunkte rausgesucht, die ich am interessantesten fand, weil wir können ja die einzelnen Reports auch noch mal verlinken.",{"sentences":16530,"speaker":110,"num_words":16541,"start":11752,"end":12063},[16531,16533,16535,16537,16539],{"text":16532,"start":11752,"end":11929},"Also die Server für Apple Intelligence stehen bei Google in den Rechenzentren, sind Stand heute noch nicht ganz konform mit den Anforderungen, die Apple eigentlich so an Private Cloud Computing hat, aber sie gehen davon aus, dass sie so bis Ende des Sommers, Ende des Jahres und wahrscheinlich bis die, ne, bis das iOS oder macOS Release dann kommt, dass die damit dann quasi d'accord sind.",{"text":16534,"start":11931,"end":11989},"Alle Modelle wurden auf Apple Silicon trainiert und mit Gemini Modellen nachgeschärft, so, haben Sie im Englischen gesagt, ja.",{"text":16536,"start":11992,"end":12018},"Das war son bisschen unklar in der Struktur, so, ne.",{"text":16538,"start":12018,"end":12037},"Was was genau heißt das jetzt technisch?",{"text":16540,"start":12037,"end":12063},"Da wollten Sie dann nicht so ganz genau drauf eingehen.",112,{"sentences":16543,"speaker":110,"num_words":16541,"start":12066,"end":12371},[16544,16546,16548,16550,16552],{"text":16545,"start":12066,"end":12108},"Zwar auf Apple Silicon trainiert, aber läuft auch auf NVIDIA GPUs, meinte der Modelle.",{"text":16547,"start":12108,"end":12140},"Kommen wir gleich dazu, was sie eigentlich so an einzelnen Modellen vorgestellt haben.",{"text":16549,"start":12140,"end":12272},"Auch das war ja nicht so ganz explizit in der in der Keynote genannt, aber unter machine Learning dot Apple Punkt dot com, was ja so deren Anlaufstelle für auch die ganzen Paper, die sie veröffentlichen und so was ist, haben sie ihre neuen Foundation Modelle jetzt alle aufgelistet.",{"text":16551,"start":12275,"end":12310},"Es gibt AFM, also sie heißen alle Apple Foundation Model, AFM Core.",{"text":16553,"start":12310,"end":12371},"Das ist das neue On device Modell, das kleinste Modell, was im Prinzip das bestehende On Device Modell, was es ja schon gab, ablöst.",{"sentences":16555,"speaker":110,"num_words":16162,"start":12375,"end":12695},[16556,16558,16560,16562,16564],{"text":16557,"start":12375,"end":12436},"Und dann neu gibt es jetzt AFM Core Advanced, auch ein On Device Modell, aber mit soner, also nicht alle Parameter gleichzeitig aktiviert.",{"text":16559,"start":12439,"end":12495},"Es sind wohl insgesamt 20000000000 Parameter und was sie damit machen, ist, sie laden nie das ganze Modell in den Arbeitsspeicher.",{"text":16561,"start":12498,"end":12557},"So, sie sie machen im Prinzip, aktivieren Sie nur son Subset von den Parametern und laden dann auch nur diese Parameter in den RAM.",{"text":16563,"start":12557,"end":12601},"Und das soll Ihnen quasi erlauben, dieses 20000000000 Parametermodell auch on device auf kleineren Geräten.",{"text":16565,"start":12601,"end":12695},"Also kleiner heißt in dem Fall Geräte mit nur nur in Anführungszeichen 12 Gigabyte RAM auch ausfüllen zu können, so, ja, ohne dass sie da mobil deinen deinen RAM oder deinen Akku, ne.",{"sentences":16567,"speaker":110,"num_words":16576,"start":12695,"end":12886},[16568,16570,16572,16574],{"text":16569,"start":12695,"end":12729},"Du hast ja auch son unterwegs, dass sie den dann weg brennen.",{"text":16571,"start":12733,"end":12814},"Und das gab's, glaub ich, so noch nicht, Philipp, kurier mich da gerne, aber so dieses, wir laden nicht mal das ganze Model in den RAM, sondern machen das vorher auf Grundlage des Prompts.",{"text":16573,"start":12814,"end":12868},"Schauen wir so, welche Teile wir aktivieren und lassen den Rest dann einfach auf der auf der SSD liegen.",{"text":16575,"start":12868,"end":12886},"Haben wir so was schon mal gehört?",72,{"sentences":16578,"speaker":90,"num_words":16589,"start":12889,"end":13154},[16579,16581,16583,16585,16587],{"text":16580,"start":12889,"end":12899},"Ah, ich wär vorsichtig.",{"text":16582,"start":12902,"end":12932},"Also ich, ey, ich bin mir sicher, da gibt's irgendwelche Papers dazu.",{"text":16584,"start":12932,"end":13050},"Ich weiß auch, dass lama CPP so was Ähnliches mal gemacht hat oder hatte, dass Du die Layout zwar nach und nach mehr oder weniger von deinem von deinem Flash Storage, sag ich mal, in den dann geladen hast, wenn sie genau gebraucht wurden.",{"text":16586,"start":13054,"end":13064},"Klingt auf jeden Fall interessant.",{"text":16588,"start":13066,"end":13154},"Wär cool, wenn's wenn, sag ich mal, Du dadurch die Performance von 'nem besseren, 'nem größeren Modell auf deinem Smartphone bekommst und der das dynamisch, sag ich mal, mehr oder weniger hin- und herladet.",99,{"sentences":16591,"speaker":90,"num_words":16601,"start":13158,"end":13420},[16592,16594,16596,16598,16600],{"text":16593,"start":13158,"end":13236},"Zusätzlich aber interessant ist ja trotzdem, dass brauch ich ja dieses 20000000000 Paramed Modell auf meinem iPhone, was ja an sich auch mal grob gesagt einfach 20 Gigabyte sind, ne, mindestens.",{"text":16595,"start":13239,"end":13295},"Das heißt, es bleibt auch spannend abzuwarten, ob neue iPhones dann auch direkt mit mehr Default Speicher kommt oder wohin das geht.",{"text":16597,"start":13298,"end":13379},"Und das größte Problem, was ich gehört hab von den Leuten, die Beta getestet haben, war vor allem die, also man kann ja jetzt seinen iPhone, Mac, wie auch immer indizieren lassen mit.",{"text":16599,"start":13383,"end":13416},"Und auch generell, dass jedes AI User extrem viel Batterie zieht.",{"text":3661,"start":13419,"end":13420},98,{"sentences":16603,"speaker":90,"num_words":16311,"start":13420,"end":13503},[16604,16606],{"text":16605,"start":13420,"end":13480},"Und selbst wenn Du dieses, sag ich mal, große Modell irgendwie klein in Memory bekommst, hast Du ja trotzdem die extreme Computer, die Du brauchst.",{"text":16607,"start":13483,"end":13503},"Und ob das dann so erfolgreich wird, bleibt abzuwarten.",{"sentences":16609,"speaker":110,"num_words":16448,"start":13506,"end":13659},[16610,16612,16614,16616],{"text":16611,"start":13506,"end":13515},"Ja, da schauen wir.",{"text":16613,"start":13515,"end":13551},"Also Du Du hast recht, also auch LamaTPP hat so was gemacht.",{"text":16615,"start":13551,"end":13586},"Ich glaub, der große Unterschied ist einfach, dass sie das halt nur einmalig machen.",{"text":16617,"start":13586,"end":13659},"Also in dem Moment, wo quasi der prompt kommt, wird einmalig das komplette Subset irgendwie ausgewählt und das in den Rahmengeladen und danach halt nicht mehr dieses Hin und Her.",{"sentences":16619,"speaker":90,"num_words":16622,"start":13663,"end":13682},[16620],{"text":16621,"start":13663,"end":13682},"Ja, ich glaub, Du isst, Du hast",7,{"sentences":16624,"speaker":110,"num_words":16627,"start":13682,"end":13692},[16625],{"text":16626,"start":13682,"end":13692},"definitiv irgendwie hilft.",3,{"sentences":16629,"speaker":90,"num_words":16101,"start":13696,"end":13790},[16630,16632],{"text":16631,"start":13696,"end":13731},"Ja, Du hast bestimmt Trade offs am Ende, also bei der Performance.",{"text":16633,"start":13731,"end":13790},"Und was ist, wenn Du, ich weiß nicht, eine eine Follow up Frage hast und die dann, ja irgendwie in eine andere Richtung, ganz",{"sentences":16635,"speaker":110,"num_words":16646,"start":13790,"end":13894},[16636,16638,16640,16642,16644],{"text":16637,"start":13790,"end":13798},"andere Richtung geht?",{"text":16639,"start":13798,"end":13804},"Ja, genau.",{"text":16641,"start":13807,"end":13824},"Das bleibt da bleibt da zu warten.",{"text":16643,"start":13827,"end":13842},"Sie haben natürlich auch Cloud Modelle vorgestellt.",{"text":16645,"start":13846,"end":13894},"Das gibt AFM Cloud, was so eher ihr ihr Model sozusagen ist für alles, was aufm aufm Server läuft.",38,{"sentences":16648,"speaker":110,"num_words":16175,"start":13897,"end":14121},[16649,16651,16653,16655,16657],{"text":16650,"start":13897,"end":13928},"Und dann im Prinzip mit mit diesem den sie da vorgestellt haben.",{"text":16652,"start":13928,"end":13959},"Also es war ja schon länger bekannt, dass Apple auch eigenen Suchindex aufbaut.",{"text":16654,"start":13959,"end":14014},"Das ist im Prinzip das, dieses World Knowledge Ding, was sie damit aufgebaut haben, was dann im Prinzip das Model unterstützt.",{"text":16656,"start":14017,"end":14063},"Sie haben Cloud Image vorgestellt für diese ganzen Bildfeature, die sie ja auch gezeigt haben in der Keynote.",{"text":16658,"start":14067,"end":14121},"Und es gibt Cloud Pro, das größte Modell, von dem Sie behaupten, das ist so mit Gemini Frontier Modellen vergleichbar.",{"sentences":16660,"speaker":110,"num_words":16671,"start":14121,"end":14335},[16661,16663,16665,16667,16669],{"text":16662,"start":14121,"end":14148},"Wie gesagt, da gibt's noch keine Benchmarks oder genauere Vergleiche.",{"text":16664,"start":14151,"end":14187},"Aber das ist das, was halt so auch scheinbar ausschließlich auf NVIDIA G-Fus läuft.",{"text":16666,"start":14187,"end":14218},"So, Mit der Grund, warum es dann halt auch bei bei Google läuft.",{"text":16668,"start":14220,"end":14285},"Wir haben schon darüber gesprochen, ne, irgendwie 12 Gigabyte RAM und Du brauchst irgendwie 'n m 3 oder 'n m 4 Prozessor, das alles zu nutzen.",{"text":16670,"start":14285,"end":14335},"Also auch schon 'n sehr harter im Vergleich zu wie lange iPhone oder macOS Hardware sonst irgendwie unterstützt wird.",82,{"sentences":16673,"speaker":110,"num_words":16684,"start":14335,"end":14986},[16674,16676,16678,16680,16682],{"text":16675,"start":14335,"end":14413},"Was ich aber eigentlich am interessantesten fand an dieser Diskussion, ist, dass das 'n cooles Beispiel war für wie Synonym mittlerweile eigentlich Modelbezeichnung und Produktbezeichnung irgendwie einhergehen, ja.",{"text":16677,"start":14413,"end":14566},"Also als sie da auf der Bühne standen und haben gesagt, na ja, wir nutzen jetzt irgendwie Gemini, hat wahrscheinlich Otto Normalverbraucher irgendwie beim Zuhören gedacht, na ja, Gemini, das ist ja dieser Google Assistant, so, den kenn ich, der kann mir Bilder machen, der kann mir irgendwie meine Planung machen, der kann in meinen Dokumenten arbeiten.",{"text":16679,"start":14570,"end":14701},"Aber dass natürlich der der Gemini Assistant so nicht in Apple jetzt irgendwie drin ist, ja, sondern halt irgendwie das Gemini Modell und vielleicht auch gar nicht das Modell selbst, sondern sie haben halt nur das Modell genommen, ihr eigenes Modell zu verbessern, ne, wie auch immer sie das gemacht haben, Schwamm drüber.",{"text":16681,"start":14705,"end":14770},"Aber das ist, glaub ich, was, wo man in Zukunft son bisschen lernen muss, da genauer hinzuhören oder genauer zu verstehen, was da eigentlich drunter liegt, ja.",{"text":16683,"start":14772,"end":14986},"Also auch, ne, in der Diskussion, die wir am Anfang hatten, man spricht irgendwie über Fable 5, aber dass das, dass man damit vielleicht gar nicht zwangsläufig das Modell meint, weil das Produkt hintendran noch ganz andere Entscheidungen für dich trifft und 'n anderes Routing macht und je nachdem Du bei 'nem anderen Modell physisch sozusagen landen kannst und andere Tools enablet oder disablet sind, das, glaub ich, son ganz interessanter Trend, der zwar irgendwie schon immer da war, aber jetzt irgendwie immer entscheidender wird.",250,{"sentences":16686,"speaker":90,"num_words":16492,"start":14988,"end":15043},[16687,16689],{"text":16688,"start":14988,"end":14995},"Ja, bleibt spannend.",{"text":16690,"start":14997,"end":15043},"Ich freu mich auf jeden Fall auf die neue Bildbearbeitungs-AI-Features, dass man noch bessere Objekte entfernen kann.",{"sentences":16692,"speaker":110,"num_words":16034,"start":15046,"end":15310},[16693,16694,16696,16698,16699],{"text":15049,"start":15046,"end":15047},{"text":16695,"start":15051,"end":15100},"Ich heb seit Jahren, ich weiß nicht, wahrscheinlich schon seit 10 Jahren auch so Bilder auf, die grottig schlecht sind.",{"text":16697,"start":15100,"end":15283},"Weil ich bin denk so, irgendwann müssen wir ja computermäßig weit genug sein, ja, dass Du halt sagen kannst, so, ja, dieser dieser Shot von von meinem Kind oder von 'nem Verband, von dem ich nicht viele Bilder hab oder guter Freund, keine Ahnung, das war so schlecht, aber in 'n paar Jahren, da drückst Du halt irgendwie einen Button und das ist halt, ist halt 'n gutes Foto, so, ja.",{"text":15288,"start":15286,"end":15287},{"text":16700,"start":15290,"end":15310},"Cool, wenn wir jetzt endlich irgendwie da sind.",{"sentences":16702,"speaker":110,"num_words":16106,"start":15313,"end":15355},[16703,16705,16707],{"text":16704,"start":15313,"end":15330},"Yes, das war's dann auch schon wieder.",{"text":16706,"start":15330,"end":15345},"Mehr hab ich gar nicht dabei.",{"text":16708,"start":15345,"end":15355},"Hast Du noch was,",{"sentences":16710,"speaker":90,"num_words":16713,"start":15355,"end":15362},[16711,16712],{"text":15359,"start":15355,"end":15357},{"text":3140,"start":15361,"end":15362},2,{"sentences":16715,"speaker":110,"num_words":16383,"start":15365,"end":15589},[16716,16718,16720,16722,16724],{"text":16717,"start":15365,"end":15392},"Dann ist das ja eine ordnungsgemäße knapp 30 Minuten Folge.",{"text":16719,"start":15392,"end":15404},"Ich bin stolz auf 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