[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":36865},["ShallowReactive",2],{"\u002Fpodcast\u002Fnews-40-26-openai-devday-dots-sol-6-1-sonnet-5-5-state-of-devs-einstiegsjobs-im-sinkflug":3},{"podcast":4,"pickOfTheDayCount":82,"speakerCount":83,"relatedPodcasts":84,"transcript":85},{"id":5,"published_on":6,"type":7,"number":8,"title":9,"slug":10,"description":11,"transcript":12,"audio_url":13,"apple_url":12,"google_url":12,"spotify_url":12,"youtube_url":14,"cover_image":15,"banner_image":12,"speakers":27,"members":28,"picks_of_the_day":78,"tags":79,"tagsPrepared":80,"speakersPrepared":81},"16351291-0568-411d-9af1-707ba28c4887","2026-10-01T05:00:00.000Z","news","40\u002F26","OpenAI DevDay \u002F\u002F Dots \u002F\u002F Sol 6.1 \u002F\u002F Sonnet 5.5 \u002F\u002F State of Devs \u002F\u002F Einstiegsjobs im Sinkflug","news-40-26-openai-devday-dots-sol-6-1-sonnet-5-5-state-of-devs-einstiegsjobs-im-sinkflug","\u003Cp>Über 20 Ankündigungen an einem einzigen Tag: Jan war beim Livestream des OpenAI DevDays dabei und nimmt uns mit durch das komplette Paket. Danach schauen wir mit Dennis auf den State of Devs 2026 und darauf, warum Berufseinsteiger:innen in Deutschland gerade so schwer Fuß fassen. Zum Schluss geht es um eine Maus, die vibriert.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>\u003Cem>Ihr habt noch kein Ticket für die programmier.con 2026? Dann nutzt jetzt noch die Chance und nehmt am 25. und 26. November an unserem Event rund um Web und AI teil! Mehr unter: \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fcon.programmier.bar\u002F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\u002F\u002Fcon.programmier.bar\u002F\u003C\u002Fa>\u003C\u002Fem>\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Mit \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.anthropic.com\u002Fclaude-sonnet-5-5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Claude Sonnet 5.5\u003C\u002Fa> hat Anthropic kurz nach Opus 5.5 die 5.5-Familie erweitert. Das Modell ist über 30 % schneller als Sonnet 5 und kostet pro Aufgabe bis zu 30 % weniger. In der Praxis heißt das für uns: Opus 5.5 für Brainstorming und Plan, Sonnet 5.5 fürs Umsetzen klar abgesteckter Aufgaben.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fopenai.com\u002Fde-DE\u002Findex\u002Fdevday-2026-recap\u002F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mit Dots bringt OpenAI zum DevDay immer laufende Personal Agents\u003C\u002Fa>, die auf GPT-6 Astra basieren und einen eigenen Rechner in der Cloud mitbringen. Dazu kommen ChatGPT Space als gemeinsamer Arbeitsraum für Teams, ChatGPT und Dots, das günstigere GPT-6.1 Sol samt Ultrafast-Tier, OpenAI Private Intelligence für sensible Daten, Codex in der Cloud inklusive Codex Security Cloud mit Zugriff auf die Daybreak-Blue-Modelle, Sign in with ChatGPT sowie ein neuer Pro-500-Plan. Wenig davon hat man noch nie gesehen, vieles davon deutlich polierter als bei denen, die es vorher probiert haben.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Danach berichtet Dennis über den \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002F2026.stateofdevs.com\u002F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">State of Devs 2026\u003C\u002Fa>. Der Gesamteindruck ist deutlich: Es gibt spürbar mehr Unsicherheit als früher und 2026 dürfte als das Jahr in Erinnerung bleiben, in dem sich AI nicht mehr umschiffen ließ.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Wie sich das konkret auf dem Arbeitsmarkt niederschlägt, zeigt eine \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.golem.de\u002Fnews\u002Faenderung-der-ausbildung-gefordert-it-einstiegsjobs-brechen-um-mehr-als-zwei-drittel-ein-2609-213414.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Auswertung des Indeed Hiring Lab\u003C\u002Fa>: Einstiegsjobs lagen im Juli 2026 rund 46 % unter dem Niveau von 2019, im Bereich IT-Anwendungen und -Lösungen sogar 77 % darunter. Ausbildungs- und duale Stellen halten sich dagegen stabil.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp>Zum Abschluss noch etwas Erfreuliches aus einer Ecke, aus der es Jan nicht erwartet hätte: \u003Ca href=\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.notebookcheck.com\u002FMicrosoft-stellt-Surface-Mouse-mit-haptischem-Feedback-vor.1407006.0.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Microsoft bringt haptisches Feedback auf die Maus\u003C\u002Fa>.\u003C\u002Fp>",null,"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.buzzsprout.com\u002F176239\u002Fepisodes\u002F19887380-news-40-26-openai-devday-dots-sol-6-1-sonnet-5-5-state-of-devs-einstiegsjobs-im-sinkflug.mp3","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.youtube.com\u002Fwatch?v=k72pFtBg2As",{"id":16,"title":17,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":18,"filename_download":19,"metadata":20,"type":21,"filesize":22,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":23,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":24,"uploaded_on":25,"folder":12,"width":26,"height":26,"charset":12,"duration":12},"52356d31-7bb8-4aa8-91de-1c1f6aca8125","News Asset 40","52356d31-7bb8-4aa8-91de-1c1f6aca8125.jpg","News-Asset 40.jpg",{},"image\u002Fjpeg","1262557","2026-09-30T11:24:12.983Z","11a655b6-bcfc-4c6c-a13c-68189e38edb9","2026-09-30T11:24:12.979Z",1500,[],[29,47,63],{"member":30},{"id":31,"first_name":32,"last_name":33,"occupation":34,"description":35,"normal_image":36},"af60e6ac-beb7-4eff-8fe8-bb017558368e","Garrelt","Mock","\u002F\u002F Software Developer \u002F\u002F Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Garrelt bereichert das Podcast-Team mit seinem umfangreichen Wissen über eine Vielzahl von Tech-Themen. Seine Leidenschaft für Mobile Games hat er eindrucksvoll bewiesen, als er noch im Studium sein eigenes Spiel entwickelte.\u003Cbr>Wenn er nicht mit seiner kleinen Familie im selbst umgebauten Van die Welt erkundet, genießt er es, historische Burgen zu besichtigen. Garrelt findet den Ausgleich zwischen digitaler und analoger Welt spannend und integriert so viel wie möglich davon in seinen Alltag. Seine vielseitigen Interessen und seine Begeisterung für Technologie machen ihn zu einer wertvollen Ergänzung des Teams.\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":37,"title":38,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":39,"filename_download":40,"metadata":41,"type":21,"filesize":42,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":43,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":44,"uploaded_on":45,"folder":12,"width":46,"height":46,"charset":12,"duration":12},"a97e0bc1-29e6-46ce-ab1a-d85b738552f0","Garrelt CD","a97e0bc1-29e6-46ce-ab1a-d85b738552f0.jpg","Garrelt_CD.jpg",{},"672932","2024-07-29T14:31:27.028Z","e97179d2-51b3-4deb-828f-9524091441f5","2024-07-29T14:31:26.899Z",1024,{"member":48},{"id":49,"first_name":50,"last_name":51,"occupation":52,"description":53,"normal_image":54},"47099351-508c-44d9-a2a2-855181c72ee8","Jan Gregor","Emge-Triebel","\u002F\u002F programmier.bar Tech Community Lead \u002F\u002F Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Jan ist ein echter Technik-Fan mit einer facettenreichen Karriere, die sich über Web-, Mobile-App-Entwicklung und DevOps erstreckt. Dank seiner vielfältigen Rollen – vom Entwickler über den Teamleiter bis hin zum Vice President Development – verfügt Jan über einen großen Erfahrungsschatz in der Softwareentwicklung und Developer Advocacy.\u003Cbr>Seine Leidenschaften jenseits der Technik reichen von Tauchgängen an exotischen Orten über das Eintauchen in digitale wie analoge Spiele bis hin zum Abtauchen in gelungene Plot-Twists in Büchern und Filmen.\u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":55,"title":56,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":57,"filename_download":58,"metadata":59,"type":21,"filesize":60,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":61,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":44,"uploaded_on":62,"folder":12,"width":46,"height":46,"charset":12,"duration":12},"ef7c0ccb-a2b5-48a0-8261-c8bbfffd917b","Jan CD","ef7c0ccb-a2b5-48a0-8261-c8bbfffd917b.jpg","Jan_CD.jpg",{},"649400","2024-07-26T09:26:17.846Z","2024-07-26T09:26:17.710Z",{"member":64},{"id":65,"first_name":66,"last_name":67,"occupation":68,"description":69,"normal_image":70},"958f6624-c721-4ff9-8a97-69148f540945","Dennis","Becker","\u002F\u002F Podcast-Host","\u003Cp>Dennis ist Head of Development bei Lotum und kümmert sich liebevoll um die Entwickler:innen und deren Weiterentwicklung. \u003Cbr>In den Podcastfolgen übernimmt Dennis gerne die Moderation. Beim täglichen Tischtennis ist er immer am Start und seit wenigen Jahren passionierter Kitesurfer. Mittlerweile ist er auch Vibe Coder mit Leidenschaft und überzeugt, dass seine Kolleg:innen AI unterschätzen. \u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":71,"title":72,"description":12,"tags":12,"location":12,"filename_disk":73,"filename_download":74,"metadata":12,"type":21,"filesize":75,"modified_by":12,"modified_on":76,"embed":12,"uploaded_by":12,"uploaded_on":77,"folder":12,"width":46,"height":46,"charset":12,"duration":12},"7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9","Dennis Becker","7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9.jpg","dennis_becker_normal_01e352e682.jpg","45729","2022-01-16T14:26:35.196Z","2021-12-30T14:16:28.647Z",[],[],[],[],486,207,[],{"id":86,"service":87,"supported_features":88,"speakers":91,"raw_response":99},"3fcbb55e-ba92-4188-92c6-545ac18b2f9d","deepgram",[89,90],"timestamps","diarization",[92,94,97],{"identifier":93,"name":32},"0",{"identifier":95,"name":96},"1","Jan",{"identifier":98,"name":66},"2",{"metadata":100,"results":117},{"transaction_key":101,"request_id":102,"sha256":103,"created":104,"duration":105,"channels":106,"models":107,"model_info":109,"diarize_info":114},"deprecated","01a0f28f-b880-7002-b0b2-9f5f07f72cd4","161d40cf26802a19f5dd05382e99b9dfd1dae0e1efc5905bacc97905f4d26349","2026-09-30T13:45:03.276Z",2863.582,1,[108],"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3",{"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3":110},{"name":111,"version":112,"arch":113},"2-general-nova","2024-05-09.3071","nova-2",{"model_uuid":115,"arch":116},"a9f85c2b-5afb-4b9d-b49b-492c43a01cfb","v1",{"channels":118,"utterances":25801},[119],{"alternatives":120},[121],{"transcript":122,"confidence":123,"words":124,"paragraphs":24012},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen Folge bei der Programmierbar. Heute sitzen wir hier zu dritt in der News 40 26 und wir sitzen schön in der Reihe, dass wir diesmal kein Problem haben, unseren Namen mal in Ort und zu sagen. Ich bin der Gareth Wok. Ich bin Dennis Becker. Und ich bin Jan Gregor Inglrikeiville. Moin moin. Und ich versteh überhaupt nicht morgen in der Last. Wir kommen heute mit ja, zu dritt mit, sag ich mal, 'ner kleinen knackigen Grunde und haben folgende Tinder, weil wir werden uns anschauen, was OpenA gestern so in den Dev Days besprochen hat. Es war nicht dabei, aber, ja, wir müssen uns gleich erklären, warum Du jetzt auf einmal überall Punkte siehst. Der Dennis wird uns erklären, was so gerade der Stand der Devs überhaupt ist, also wie so das Feeling ist. Erklären ist gut, aber ich berichte über eine, berichte über eine Umfrage. Genau, aber, weil ja, Du erklärst uns, warum die zahlen lassen sind. Ja, aber erklären ist, als hätte ich irgendwie, als genau, als könnte ich dir auch noch zusätzlich irgendwie sagen, warum das alles so ist. Jetzt bei rauf. Okay, mache ich. Also deine deine Meinung. Mhm. Und ich darf heute ein bisschen berichten, warum, passt ganz gut eigentlich dazu, warum die, ja, warum eigentlich auch nicht, ich bin indische Konstruktu. Warum Berufsersteiger es momentan ein bisschen schwer in Deutschland haben. Und bevor wir damit loslegen, machen wir wieder Service und aus dem letzten Mal, aber diesmal knackiger. Und zwar ist 5 Punkt 5 rausgekommen. Wann auch am Montag, ne? Ich glaub, es war Montag. Genau, passt zu der Riege der 5 Punkt 5 Familie zu Opus 5, was ja schon vor 2 Wochen rausgekommen ist oder anderthalb. Und es diesmal kürzer zu machen, 30 Prozent schneller zu Sond 35 Prozent billiger, was nicht nur an den Token, neuen Tokenkosten liegt, sondern auch an der Tokeneffizienz. Sehr von der Performance sehr, sehr nah an Oboes 5 Punkt 5 und ich glaube sogar auch von in so kommuniziert sehr, sehr stark in sehr abgegrenzten und klaren Aufgabendefinitionen. Also ne, so wie man's, glaub ich, schon häufiger gemacht hat, Obus 5 Punkt 5 für Spreadstorming und Plan erstellen, was auch immer und dann Sonne 5 Punkt 5 einfach losrennen lassen und das Ding aufsetzen. So viel dazu, dann Das war doch mal kurz und knackig. Das ist aber man muss ja auch mal auf die Schulter laufen, das schaffen wir nicht immer. Vielleicht noch kurz dann. Heiko, 5. Ich bin früh, zu früh geklopft. Wo siehst Du überall Punkte und warum? Ja, das Ich hab gestern mit leichten Startschwierigkeiten den Livestream zu den OpenAI Dev Days geguckt und ich muss sagen, mein persönlicher und ich muss sagen, mein persönlicher Untertitel ist so das Open Air Copycat Festival. Ich glaub, also es gibt superviel, was wir veröffentlicht haben und ich glaub, am sinnvollsten ist es, wenn wir einmal so diese Liste runterrattern und dann könnt ihr vielleicht danach irgendwie noch sagen, okay, da sollten wir vielleicht noch mal drüber reden und da wir fragen oder das war irgendwie besonders interessant, aber wir machen erst mal so den den Schnelldurchlauf. Und dann seht ihr vielleicht auch, warum ich gesagt hab, das ist Copyright Festival, was gar nicht so negativ gemeint ist vielleicht. Also ich glaub, das, was am allermeisten in den Schlagzeilen gekommen ist, auch im Mainstream irgendwie angekommen, ist Open Air dots. Das ist so Ihre Interpretation 1 Personal Agents sowie bei Openclaw, bei Hermes, bei, wie hieß das, von Metamuse? Ist ich fand's auch optisch sehr nah an an MUS irgendwie son bisschen cute gemacht, son bisschen Personality drin, nicht nur so Aufgaben abarbeiten und so was. Kommt mit 'nem eigenen Computer Use Model, das quasi nicht nur bei dir laufen lassen kannst, sondern kontinuierlich twanty for seven in der Cloud für dich läuft. Und das hab ich mir noch nicht ganz angeguckt, aber sie haben's angekündigt mit sonem eigenen Rule Model für, was darfst alleine machen und wofür musst Du bitte mich da noch mal fragen, bevor Du's fertig machst? So. Rollout jetzt grade so am Laufen. Bei mir ist das im Browser schon verfügbar. In der App zickt das grade noch, aber es ist schon angekommen. Und in Deutschland nur für Business Enterprise Premium Plaar Kunden und nicht für die normalen JtipT Abonnenten verfügbar. So, dann haben Sie noch vorgestellt Ich frage, das ist jetzt der Schnelldurchgang. Ja. Das weiß ich jetzt, okay. Willst Du willst Du schon konkreter fragen oder? Ja, nein, ich will das erzählen. Ach so. Ja, dann Nein, nein, nein, ich wir machen jetzt den Schnelldurchgang. Dann stell ich gern. Also GPT 6 1 Zoll, Near Astra Intelligence bei 20 Prozent der Kosten von Astra, gleichzeitig vorgestellt Ultrafast für, ich glaub, alle API Modelle achtmal so schnell bei sechsmal denselben Kosten. Da hat mein, weiß nicht, mein Nerd hin dann direkt gerechnet. Das heißt, ich könnte auch einfach 6 Punkt 1 Zoll nehmen für ein Fünftel der Kosten. Sechsmal so viel bezahlen und achtmal so schnell haben, dann hätt ich mir Astra Level achtmal so schnell für nur 20 Prozent teurer. Das ist eigentlich 'n guter Deal. Wenn ich einfach wenn ich einfach Soll direkt nur auf Ultra Fast irgendwie nutze und den Preisvorteil quasi direkt wieder in Speed verballer, fand ich irgendwie Ich 'n interessantes Proposse. Ich recherchier mal parallel, ob es wirklich für alle Modelle gilt. Okay. Hab ich nicht so verstanden, aber machen wir weiter. Dann haben Sie vorgestellt Private Intelligence, was so Ihre Interpretation von Apple Private Cloud Compute ist. Also Sie können dir quasi sicherstellen und garantieren, dass, wenn Sie Inference auf deine requests machen, Sie die Daten nicht sehen, die Daten dürfen so persistiert werden, dass alles sehr epemural ist und Du damit quasi auch sensibles Zeug ihnen übergeben kannst. Und haben da auch schon so mit Databrix und so 'n paar Partner vorgestellt, die das direkt mit ihnen machen. Zu Kodex gab's auch News. Es gibt jetzt Kodex in der Cloud, dass quasi Kodex an deinen Aufgaben arbeiten kann, wenn dein Rechner zugeklappt ist oder wenn Du ihn nur irgendwie über die App mobil unterwegs irgendwie anstößt. Gleichzeitig gibt's jetzt auch Codecs remote, dass Du quasi von deinem Handy auf die Codex Session zugreifen kannst. Und sie haben das Codexial iHarness Open Source vorgestellt, da kann man jetzt auch mal reinschauen. So was find ich ja irgendwie immer ganz interessant. Ja, Du hast auch gesagt, das gab's grad noch nicht. Das war für mich auch so die Cloud Interpretations, nein, Interpretations Imitationsteil der der ganzen Session, weil ich mir auch schon mal son Vater gefragt hab, so ging das nicht irgendwie vorher schon die ganze Zeit? Dann haben sie eine Decitions API vorgestellt, was im Prinzip das Kontoangebot zu Jeffis, über das wir ja letztes Mal in den News gesprochen hatten, basiert auf dem Luna Model. Ist halt auch so sehr gescope. Kannst es kann dir nur vorgefertigte Antworten geben, kann quasi nur so schnelle Entscheidungen für dich treffen. Sehr schnell, sehr kleiner Kontext, ja, nein, top oder top. Aber auch so billig und ja, weil's halt auf Luna ist, ne. Dann haben sie vorgestellt so eine ganze Suite an Tools unter dem Titel Spaces, wo Du gemeinsam an Dokumenten, Präsentationen, Knowledge Base Sachen irgendwie arbeiten kannst, interaktive Widgets da reinbauen kannst. Das war, glaub ich, der Moment, wo so Notion und Google Suite son bisschen der Arsch auf Grundeis gegangen ist, weil das ja genau das ist, was sie auch grade irgendwie Also die kommen ja quasi aus der anderen Ecke, die haben schon immer diese Produktivitätssachen und versuchen da jetzt AI reinzuballern und gefühlt überholt sie Open AI gerade links und sagt einfach so, na ja, wir haben schon das AI dieses Produktivitätszeug, So, das bauen wir jetzt da irgendwie einfach ein und dann haben wir das auch. Sie haben Tupet in Slack und Teams vorgestellt, was quasi das Äquivalent zu Clayo Attack ist, über das wir ja auch schon hier mehrfach gesprochen haben, was mich heute Morgen übrigens damit begrüßt hat, dass sein Budget ausgelaufen ist bei uns. Muss man gleich noch mal 'n paar Münzen nachwerfen oder wir wechseln jetzt einfach direkt auf GPT. Schon erledigt. Ja, siehste, wunderbar alles das durch. Dann haben sie vorgestellt, dass sie jetzt verbesserte Plug ins haben. Ein Plug in, was sie auch vorgestellt haben, sein Meeting Plug in, was jetzt direkt in jeden Zoom, Google Meet, Call, whatever rein kann und quasi das trancriben kann für dich, so Items ableiten kann, das direkt in deine Spacets Spaces, Knowledge Graph Sachen irgendwie einfließen lassen kann, aufbauen, ohne dass Du irgendwie was waszutun musst. Sie haben vorgestellt Sign in with ChatGPT, GPT, was so auf der einen Seite son einfacher Identity Provider ist, wie bei Single Sign und auch, aber für alle Pro und Hör Abonnenten auch ein Modell sein wird, bring your own Tokens quasi zu ermöglichen. Das heißt, Du musst nicht mehr bei OpenAI deinen API Token erzeugen und dann dann irgendein Tool hochladen oder so was, sondern Du kannst dich quasi jetzt einmal mit OpenAI anmelden und dann können diese Tools entweder deine Subscription oder quasi deine Extra Tokens zu API Preisen verwenden, die nach Modelllassungen. Son bisschen, was ich da 'n bisschen schade fand oder zumindest nicht mehr Infos dazu gelesen hab, ist, dass nichts dazu stand, ob sie vielleicht auch was 'n bisschen von deinem globalen Kontext weiterreichen würden, ne? Weil es wär ja vielleicht könnte man das so machen wie bei Single Sign On, kannst Du ja bei manchen Tools auch auswählen, ne, wenn Du Sign On mit mit Google machst so, welche Rechte dafür diese Anwendungen grade bekommen, in die ich mich hier mit Google anmelde. Und da könnte man ja auch sagen, hier okay, wenn ich mich jetzt in, ich weiß nicht, Slack Open AI anmelde, dann kann da vielleicht 'n bisschen was von meinem persönlichen Kontext schon mitkommen und Sie wissen automatisch schon son bisschen was dann für mich so. Dann musste ich 'n bisschen schmunzeln. Sie haben dann nämlich auch bei diesem Sign in vorgestellt, ja, es gibt jetzt auch übrigens diesen Fünfhunderter Tier und die die Menge ist irgendwie komplett ausgerastet. Und ich fand son bisschen aufs Kurze, okay, wir stellen jetzt 'n 'n Pricing Tier vor, was mehr als doppelt so teuer ist als der andere teuerste Plan, den Es gab ja mal die kurze Zeit diesen Zweihunderter Plan und jetzt gehen wir auf 500 und die haben gesagt, ja, mehr Geld ausgeben, richtig gut und die Ich glaube, keine andere Firma konnte das so irgendwie abziehen, sei so, ihr wollt uns noch mehr Geld geben, jetzt könnt ihr uns noch mehr Geld geben. Natürlich ist es ja 'n guter Deal, weil das Genau. Ist ja eher das ist ja eher besser ist, als es Ich bin super traurig, dass es halt bis es Umfeld nicht gibt, den Plan. Ja. So, ne. Da wär's ja da wär's ja 'n Riesenmeergewinn, wenn wir 'n Fünfhunderter Plan haben könnten. Ich bin ich bin voll bei dir, aber ich fand halt diese Situation so skurril, dass er halt da steht und hinter ihm gehen diese Also Sam Ortman steht auf der Bühne, diese diese Pricing Modelle fallen da so irgendwie in die Slide rein und alle bei 5 und dann so, oh, megagut, megagut irgendwie. Ja. Übrigens auch, kleine Randnotiz, 1200000000 Weekly Active Users. ChatGPT haben Sie auch gesagt, wenn wir schon mal dabei sind. Ja. Dann son paar kleine Randnotizen noch, die Agents API können jetzt auch Computervideos unterstützen. Wie gesagt, Plug ins sind verbessert, können jetzt eigenes UI mitbringen, was son bisschen mich erinnert hat an dieses, gibt's ja jetzt auch MCP mit eigenem, was eigenes UI mit ausliefern kann. Da hab ich son bisschen, da hat mich das dran erinnert. Und Sie haben so als kleines Gimmick am Ende vorgestellt dieses Codex Game Studio, was so aussah wie son Gameboy unter Du deine minigeweibkoteten Spiele da direkt machen kannst und haben natürlich dann jeden Teilnehmer da direkt einen verschenkt. Da hat's mir dann 'n bisschen leidgetan, dass es nicht vor Ort dabei war. Also wenn irgendjemand von OpenAI zuhört, das nächste Mal werden wir gerne eingeladen, so. Wo war das denn? San Francisco, so. Wir kennen ja jetzt den Flughafen Gareth, wir kommen dahin, ist kein Thema. Wir brauchen nur 'n Ticket. Danke. So, das ist der der Schnelldurchlauf in paar paar Minuten jetzt. Was hat euch davon am meisten beschäftigt, mitgenommen, abgeholt? Also erst mal erst mal zu ultrafast. Erst mal gibt es das NU für GPT-6 Astra und das soll aber für soll auch kommen, 6 Punkt 1 Zoll. Okay, aber dann geht ja meine Rechnung auf. Du kannst quasi Mit dem wenn Astra 6 1 jetzt Ach so, nein. Es geht nur für Astra, noch nicht für soll. Ja, aber okay. Genau. Schade. Damit Doch bald. Doch nicht gehackt. Aber aber bald. Ja, aber bald. Genau. Also ich finde Copycat hört sich 'n bisschen zu negativ an. Okay, lass mich das noch kurz, weil ich hab ja auch am Anfang sehr gesagt, ich mein das gar nicht so negativ, wie es vielleicht klingt. Ich hab da den Stream gestern mit Krischer geschaut und da haben wir auch schon gesagt, na ja, es ist halt viel von dem, was vielleicht schon da war, aber ich glaube auch, wenn man sich Dots anguckt mit diesem Personal Agent Zeug, ist es halt schon auf 'nem sehr tolles Level und ich glaube, dass es die den Gesamtmarkt weiter nach vorne schiebt. Weil wenn sich da son Schwergewicht hinten dran wirft und sagt, okay, wir machen das jetzt auch, ne? Wir versuchen das, was irgendwie Notion machen will, machen wir jetzt mit Spaces. Wir versuchen das, was irgendwie Openclaw, ich sag mal so semiprofessionell amateurhaft vielleicht irgendwie umsetzt, ja? Das versuchen wir jetzt irgendwie auch selber zu machen. Ich glaube, das bringt schon viel Gewicht mit in die richtige Richtung, so. Und wir haben ja auch schon bei ganz vielen anderen Lounges den letzten Jahren, Jahrzehnten gesehen, dass es gar nicht immer darauf ankommt, dass Du der 1. Bist, sondern viel entscheidender ist, dass Du's halt richtiger machst als vielleicht die anderen, die das voll dir probiert haben. Dementsprechend gar nicht als Vorwurf gemeint, sondern einfach so, da da war, glaub ich, jetzt wenig dabei, wo man sagen müsste oder sagen könnte, das haben wir ja noch nie gesehen. Aber da war viel dabei, wo man ehrlicherweise sagen musste, okay, Du hast es jetzt schon eine deutlich polischtere, besser integrierte, wie auch immer Variante von irgendwas anderem. Ja, für mich ist halt der große, also was ich daran so spannend finde, ist, dass es halt das irgendwie noch mal so einfacher auf Unternehmensebene auch, ne, einsetzbar macht, so. Und ich meine, ich würde uns bei Lotum als relativ irgendwie progressiv und wir können viele Sachen ausprobieren, irgendwie sehen und trotzdem ist natürlich son Roll out und irgendwie eine Nutzung über alle hinweg deutlich einfacher, wenn es einfach in der Produktqualität rauskommt, die irgendwie spannend ist. Und wenn ich jetzt bei den letzten Modellen, vielleicht nicht, aber das ist nicht ganz richtig. Ich wollt jetzt sagen, nicht so hyped war, die jetzt unbedingt sofort ausprobieren zu müssen, also hab ich mal in der Regel schon getan, waren jetzt hier schon Sachen dabei, wo ich so sage, oh, die würde ich gerne ausprobieren. Ja, und das würde ich gerne machen. Und ich mein, dort ist 1, das hat mir heute, hatte ich hier häufig schon noch im Podcast. Na also, der persönliche Assistent, der endlich mal über den ganzen Kontext hinweg die ganze Zeit für mich da ist und das richtig macht. Wir haben's irgendwie von Apple erwartet, weil sie halt den Kontext haben, deinen privaten persönlichen. Ja, ne, Grogbot, Pokee damals und so weiter. Und da gibt's ja gab's ja schon viele Iterationen so, die das Ganze Ja, Pokee, ja. Irgendwie versucht haben und und in die Richtung gehen und wenn das jetzt noch mal einen Schritt weiter ist, der einfach irgendwie gut funktioniert und viel von dem gelernt hat, was bis jetzt, ne, noch nicht so funktioniert hat. Und beispielsweise ist halt irgendwie dieses Sicherheitsgefühl, zumindest mal gucken, wie es dann am Ende ist, aber so, was ich jetzt gerade initial bei Dots habe, halt ein deutlich höheres, als wenn ich jetzt mein Hermes oder irgendwas aufsetze, so, ne? Und ich hab's heute Morgen, wie nennt man das, einen erstellt. Und ja, es ist schon irgendwie lustig, dass er dann halt so seinen eigenen Rechner hat, weißt Du und der der kann ja Sachen installieren und die Leben, also das ist einfach so irgendwie 'n cooles 'n cooler Gedanke. Superspannend, dass der Blender bei Default einfach installiert hat so, weil es eben, also wissen, Sie haben wahrscheinlich auch festgestellt, oh, wir sind gut Astra Scouterin, drei-d-Sachen zu bauen so. Also das Blender ist 'n Standard Tool, was einfach auf seinem Rechner verfügbar ist, auch, glaub ich, mit anderen Ja, das hat sone virtuelle Maschine. Nein, nein, nee, der eigene Maschine Eigen Rechner in der in der Cloud. Ja. Genau. Du kannst beides machen. Also wenn Du deinen DOT erstellst, dann fragt er dich so, hier oder in der Wolke? Oder beides. Und da, ich weiß gar, ich wollte noch mal gucken, ich hab's noch nicht geschafft, was das fürn System ist, weil es sieht 'n bisschen aus wie Chrome OS so von der Aufmachung, weil es gibt unten sone Taskleiste und da ist deine Chrome ja als erstes Symbol, ob's das wirklich 'n Chrome Wars ist, würde ich fast denken nicht, aber zumindest optisch sieht's erst mal 'n bisschen danach aus. Ja, schon. Und das öffnet schon irgendwie noch mal andere Möglichkeiten und Also, es ist ja kein Geheimnis, dass Sam Oltmann 'n großer Steve Jobs Fan ist und da auch son bisschen dem so so nacheifert und Steve Jobs hat ja damals bei der iTunes Musicvorstellung auch gesagt, so, Easy Beats free oder Simple Beats free war, glaube ich, das das Motto so, weil sie gesagt haben, 99 Cent für einen Song zum Runterladen ist halt immer noch cooler als Piracy, weil Du kannst halt im iTunes so einfach draufklicken und der ist da und Du musst dir nicht irgendwie, ne, mit komischen Sachen beschäftigen und dir irgendwelche Viren runterladen. Und ich glaube, das ist halt genau dasselbe, ne? Also natürlich kannst Du vieles von dem, was da jetzt schon kam, gerade mit Dots, hättest Du vorher schon mit mit Hermes machen können oder mit mit mit Pi oder OpenClo, hast Du nicht gesehen, aber wie Du halt sagst, Du musst es halt selber aufsetzen. Du musst dich Security kümmern. Du musst irgendwie diese ganzen Integrationen anstoßen und so. Und das ist ja schon auch nicht trivial und erfordert auch einfach Zeit und Mühe und Einsatz. Und wenn Du's jetzt einfach mit deiner OpenRA Subscription einfach mitnutzen kannst und die ganzen Grundunterhaltungen mit deinen Dots sind ja auch umsonst. Also Du zahlst da ja nicht mehr für. Du zahlst nur für die Arbeit, die sie quasi in dedizierte Tasks investieren, ja, machen so, ja, dann ist das dasselbe bedingt. Dann zahl ich ja lieber meine Subscription. Ich glaub, ich brauch da mindestens die Da ist das jetzt, ne? 100 Dollar Subscription. Ja. Aber dafür läuft die Sache halt und ich brauch nicht irgendwie noch 'n 'n VPS irgendwo, wo das alles drauf laufen kann und und bla bla bla. Ja, von daher, ja Das ist cool. Ist das ja dieser Ich hab jetzt schon öfter dieses Wort gehört. Für mich war das eben son Ding von, der hört dir die ganze Zeit zu und der kennt selber, wenn er irgendwie Aufgabe hat. Mhm. Nein, das ist einfach nur der das läuft halt auf 'ner Kiste, die nicht schläft. Das ist nicht dein Laptop, dass Du zuklappst und dann ist er halt aus. Und dadurch, dass er auch bereust und das kann er dir immer zuhören, also das ergibt sich daraus, aber das ist nicht das, was primär damit gemeint ist. Ja. Und es ist Irgendwie, ich hatte mir grad ganz kurz nur diese in dem Recap das Video dazu angeguckt und da hatten Sie aus irgend 'nem Grund direkt so Figürchen irgendwie gedruckt. Ja. War irgendwann ist das einfach nur das Baskottchen oder geht's irgendwann darum, dass Du son Figürchen dabei hast und mit dem die ganze Zeit geht? Das dachte ich auch erst, als ihr das vorgestellt habt, so kommt jetzt dieses Hardware Gerät, was wir ja schon mal so rumort haben, aber nein, Du kannst, wenn Du dort erstellst, gibt's son son Character Creator quasi und die sehen alle son bisschen Ja. Aus wie diese diese Figuren, die Du da auch gesehen hast, Aber Ich weiß nicht, weil das ist das ist eigentlich das Weiterreden. Was ich wirklich mal interessant finde, son Ding, was auf deinem Platz steht irgendwie, Leute die ganze Zeit dran. Du musst dir mal die Keynote angucken. Sie haben ja hier mit mit Microduck von Huggingface auch sone kleine Demo gemacht. Ich hätte auch gern son paar Microducks durchs Büro laufen und so und das könnte man vielleicht mit sonem Dot verbinden, aber das ist vielleicht zu zu abgedreht noch. Und nicht in Europa, aber die Apple Watch hatte das sicher die den Anspruch, das zukünftig zu machen. So diese haben Deshalb haben Sie meine geile Multitasking Geste gekillt auf der Apple Watch, nur für dieses scheiße Recap Feature. Nee, nicht das Recap Feature. Es geht ja dieses den ganzen Tag zuhören und eine Summary geben. Das Ja, und wenn dann da Doppeltipps, dann siehst Du das ja aufm Bildschirm. Das ist, glaube ich, rewind oder wie das heißt. Das aber das geht ja bei mir auch nicht, weil ist ja in Europa und dafür hab ich, deswegen hab ich mein Watch Essen nicht geupdatet, weil ich meine Multitaskinggäste nicht will. Kannst Du das nicht in irgend 'ner Bedienungshilfe wieder umbiegen? Anyway, weiter geht's. Wie kriegst Du denn, wenn man jetzt als Entwickler diese Kassen hört und sind irgendwie so, kommt schnell auch Dennis. Ich will, ich bin noch nicht so weit, Entschuldigung. Der weitere der weitere, wir haben jetzt grad nur wir haben wir haben gerade nur über Trotz gesprochen. Ja, aber wir könnten War sich sehr über dieses Thema. Machen wir. Was ich sehr spannend. Heute eine Extraausgabe. Ey. Recht. Das 1. Mal, dass eine Überleitung ab Überall ich der Jüngste bin. Kann auch sagen, weil Du es zum falschen Zeitpunkt moderiert hast. Nee. Nein, als, ja. Geknackt zu halten und nicht auskotzt. Sehr gut. Aber man muss natürlich auch irgendwie von Dennis, der immer hier sonst steht, in jeder Besprechung, so, wir müssen die News irgendwie mal kürzer machen. Ja, genau. Und wann den nix essen. Einfach auch. Es waren 15 Minuten Monolog von Vielleicht wie viele Hatemail für vor, ja genau, vorkam. So. Denn also dort fand ich nicht das Einzige, was tatsächlich die anderen für den Arbeitskontext superinteressant finde, sind diese spaces, muss ich sagen. Ja. Weil das halt so die Kombination ist aus, ich mag Conference überhaupt nicht. Wir haben mittlerweile aber einiges in Conference. Du hast Pages, auf denen Du simultan arbeiten kannst, die Aitos können da drauf rumschreiben und so was. Teilweise haben wir das natürlich jetzt in den Teams auch schon, ne, mit irgendwelchen Docs, die in Drehpots eingecheckt werden und irgendwie aktuell werden. Aber da was Vernünftiges, was zusammen mit Slack, aus Meetings und so weiter sich die ganzen Sachen zusammengurt und schönes Produkt angeboten wird, dass man nicht händisch sich darüber Gedanken machen muss, sondern hoffentlich, also so die Werbung, dann einfach funktioniert. Das finde ich richtig geil. Und auch so was wie, ne, diese Präsentationen, was Du schon sagst, die müssen irgendwie, ne, die haben 'n eigenes Präsentionsfeld. Du kannst Slides mit deinen Kollegen zusammen erstellen und dann halt einfach zu Google Sheets oder PowerPoint exportieren. Das ist so dann der Schritt danach so Und das hat bei der normalen extra Wert draufgelegt in der Präsentation zu sagen, das sind halt, also diese Slides und Dokumente, das sind alles Artefakte, die Du halt bearbeiten kannst. Und diese diese Graphen und so, weil das ja ganz oft Also ich glaub, diese diese Slides, die Gemini zum Beispiel erstellt in in Google Slides, ja, das sind ja einfach nur so starre Bilder ganz oft, wo halt irgendwie alles drin ist. Und sie einfach nur ein Bild in deine 1 light reinsetzen und dann kannst Du halt nicht mehr bearbeiten im Nachgang. Wenn Du eine kleine Änderung machen willst, dann wird das ganze Ding neu generiert und verfälscht sich wieder an son paar Stellen und so. Von daher haben sie, glaub ich, schon zugehört und gesehen, wo da so die Probleme und die Usability Hürden auch sind und am Ende auch wieder da, ne, Easy Beats free. Ich glaube, also mein einziges Gegenargument ist so, dass ich schon das Gefühl hab, dass es wichtig für uns ist, dass wir uns nicht so modular kriegen. Und ich hab was Weiß ich nicht, dass das Nee, ja. Geh ich nicht mit. Erzähl weiter. Entschuldigung. Red aus. Beste Folge heut, rede aus. Sprich, ich glaube, was ist halt an dem Set-up, was wir haben mag, ist, dass es Das das sehen die Leute nicht. Ich hab ich hab nur den Kopf geschüttelt. Ich ich vervollständige erst mal deinen Satz. Du findest es nicht gut, dass man 'n Render Login hat, dass man jetzt, ne, dann sagt, okay, auch dieses Second Brainder, wie man's nennt, liegt dann bei einem Anbieter, weil dann der Wechsel zu anderen schwieriger wird und man ist irgendwie auf Open Eye. Und da sage ich, Bullshit. Nein, sage ich nicht. Ich sage, glaube ich nicht Ist das der Joode der ist? Stopp, halt. Halt, stopp. Ich glaube, das ist egal, wenn ich sehe, wie schnell sich das ganze Zeug ändert. Also Open Eye mag jetzt gerade die spannendste Lösung dafür sein und das nutzen wir und wir haben aber überhaupt gar keine Probleme damit, in anderthalb Monaten zu Clay zu wechseln, die Clayd Spaces veröffentlichen und noch 3 coolere Features haben. Ich hab einfach das Gefühl, dass wir in den aktuellen Zeiten machen wir keinen Login mehr auf irgendeine Technologie, weil sich alles so schnell ändert, weil wir die ganze Zeit irgendwie Dinge ändern und das finde ich auch völlig in Ordnung. Und ich würde jetzt nicht sagen, wenn wir so was wie Spaces machen, dann ist das auf jeden Fall ein Commitment für das nächste halbe Jahr und deswegen hätte ich auch keine Angst davor, dass es jetzt uns an Open AI bindet, weil's einfach da irgendwie gerade gut funktioniert. Und ich den Agent dann austauschen zu müssen und das Modell austauschen zu wollen, meine Confluence oder meine Obsidian Seite zu pflegen, da seh ich keinen großen Mehrwert drin. Außerdem muss man ja dein Argument nicht. Du hast ja auch gar nicht fertig diskutiert. Ich denk, wir wissen ja gar nicht, was das dein schon kommt ist. Ich sage nur Ja. Ich will aber auf jeden Fall wieder 'n Klo zu Modell nennen. Ja. Und Du bist aber in den Spaces drin. Ja. Da ist die Migration aufwendig. Geht. Es ich sag nicht, dass es nicht geht. Ich glaube, es ist eine Stunde. Ja. Also oder bis aber bis jetzt hat uns, also was wir bis jetzt gesehen haben, hat uns noch nie abgehalten, dass wir irgendwo drin waren, dass wir was Neues benutzt haben in der AI Welt. Trotzdem ist eine Stunde eine Hürde, die Du vielleicht nicht machst, wenn Du denkst, muss nicht unbedingt sein. Und jetzt bei unseren praktisch Projekten sind wir an 'nem Punkt, wo's eigentlich komplett egal ist. Du kannst mit Session einfach den Agent wechseln. Ja. Und es funktioniert, weil das halt Ja. Was ich das. Aber ich mein, das das ist auch 'n bisschen Geschmackssache und vielleicht auch 'n bisschen 'n 'n Punkt, der für nicht alle relevant ist so. Weil muss man das Model wechseln? Wahrscheinlich nicht unbedingt. Mhm. So, aber find ich's tendenziell Pluspunkt, vielleicht kein Argument, Entscheidung zu erklären, aber Pluspunkt, also Dein Model kann er deinen Computer Use nutzen, die Open AI Features zu bedienen. Also ich ich Ja. Schon, dass man loggt schon wieder rauskommt. Ich verstehe dein Argument. Ich sehe den Mehrwert von, lieber was anderes zu nutzen, sich höher, als dass man sich dadurch einschränken sollte. Das ist eigentlich das, was ich sagen will. Ich glaub, man muss auch einfach pragmatisch sehen, ja? Wenn Du hier Firma Infrastruktur aufbaust, Du hast 'n Log in an diversesten Stellen, ja? Also wenn Du mal anguckst, wie eng wir an Google gebunden sind Slack. Wenn Du anguckst, ja, wie eng wir an an Slack gebunden sind. Ich glaube, es ist legitim, an 'n paar Stellen zu sagen, wir machen das halt, weil wir uns damit halt 'n sehr hohen Integrationsfaktor einkaufen. Ob das jetzt bei Aufmail der Fall ist oder nicht, sei mal dahingestellt. Aber ich glaube, ganz oft traut man so sehr prinzipiell und dogmatisch auf so Sachen und sagt, okay, ich würde gerne auf jeden Fall irgendwie mir hier den Wendelock in ersparen und portabel bleiben und bla bla bla. Und dabei ist es gar nicht immer notwendig, so. Das nur als kleine Randnotiz für alle da draußen, die sich jetzt auch grade fragen, ob das wichtig ist oder nicht. Ein letzter Punkt noch. Ja. Da ich ja hier in unsere Security COP mit drinsitze, gibt's noch einen Punkt, den ich ganz gerne erwähnen würde. Und zwar eine Sache, die Sie auch vorgestellt haben, ist Codex Security Cloud. Und das ist die Möglichkeit, genau, deinen Code checken zu lassen. Einmal also 'n einmaligen Scan, aber man kann auch sagen, bei jedem Commitment et cetera. Und was eigentlich ganz cool ist, dass man darüber Zugriff hat auf die Modelle, was zusammenfasst. Also das sind praktisch, Sonst haben wir ja immer in den Modellen diese Sicherheitsvorkehrungen, weil man nicht irgendwie aus Hackergründen müh Sachen machen darf und deswegen, die Modelle alle müssen eingeschränkt sind und in Daybreak sind sie halt zur Verteidigung von Lücken praktisch offen und über diesen Mechanismus, dass das über die läuft und dann die Scans von ihnen kommen, können sie halt praktisch den Models erlauben, diese Capabilities zu haben und sonst muss man sich halt vorher irgendwie daaybre war halt sehr sozusagen und man Hast Du da angemeldet? Das ist ja nur so auf Bewerbungen hin? Nee, aber ich glaube auch, weil wir uns nicht, also weil wir uns da nicht damals nicht für qualifiziert haben irgendwie. Jetzt nämlich vorhin wurde mir das auch wieder angeboten, als ob's Jobcenter war so Daybreak jetzt einmal anschauen. Na ja, aber wie gesagt, Du kommst ja über das andere jetzt an diese Modelle. Du musst jetzt nicht mehr Teil von Daybreak sein. Ach so. Ah, weil Codex Security das mit Genau. Ist okay. Okay. Ja. Cool. Dann einfach vielleicht vielleicht musst Du erklären, was Security COP ist oder was COP allgemein bei uns heißt, weil ich glaub, das sind Abkürzungen, die da draußen erst mal niemand versteht. Nee. Wir haben die nicht erfunden, oder? COP Community of Practice. Ich glaub, ist keine ist keine Lotum Abkürzung, meine ich. Ich hab Aber voll noch nie gehört. Okay. Freu ich aber. Gut. Also das sind auch ignorant. Das sind bei uns Gruppengruppierungen zu unterschiedlichen Themen. Wir haben unsere Design COP. Bei den Devs nennen wir es 'n bisschen anders. Des Talks aber ist sehr ähnlich und seit einiger Zeit Security AI, das sind so Community of Practices oder COP. Hast Du recht, findet man, wenn man googelt nicht, dann ist es doch was hier erfundenes. Okay. Vielen Dank. Als es zur Lotung kam, das Dow dümmste, also in der Jing soll heißt, wohl das bei jetzt mal so weit. Ja. Und da hatten wir einige von. Du darfst moderieren. Mach mal mach mal 'n geilen Übergang Gerald jetzt auf Kommandons. Ja, ich auch. Ja. Moment, lass dich mir ganz kurz nachgucken. Bist Du männlich? Ja. Oder Ja, ist die Identifizierst sie, Moment. Nein, das hättest Du sagen, identifizierst Du dich als männlich? Das wäre wahrscheinlich 33. Das ist richtig. 31. Aber nur beruflich. Dann würde ich sagen, hast Du eine Reihe, eine relativ hohe hohe Chance, weniger motiviert zu sein als vorher. Wenn nicht so da nicht, ja. Ja. Nein, also es geht, also es geht den State of Devs. Das ist eine Umfrage, die es, glaub ich, jetzt schon seit 10 irgendwas Jahren oder so was gibt, also das stimmt. Ziemlich lange schon 'n paar Mal her. Und wo einfach, ja, Entwickler*innen gefragt werden zu verschiedenen Themen, zu Technologien und so weiter. Und dieses Jahr, wie könnte es auch anders sein, hat natürlich auch AI dort einiges an Einzug erhalten. Was auch ein bisschen schade ist, dass einige der Kategorien und Fragen neu sind. Das heißt Drehen die Vergleichswerte. Dass es fehlen dann son bisschen die Vergleichswerte zu den Jahren vorher. Beispielsweise eben, ne, was denkst Du, wie sich in den nächsten 5 Jahren irgendwie deine Karriere ändert, ohne dass Du es unter Kontrolle hast, wo so, weiß ich nicht, einen einen gutes Viertel oder mehr, ne, sagen, dass es schon wahrscheinlich ist, dass sich da was ändern wird und sich Ängste machen. Vieles so mentale Gesundheit geht und auch das halt nicht so, ja, wird dadurch vergleichsweise nicht. Also beispielsweise gibt's den Punkt, happing reduceded oder die Frage ist, was hast Du zuletzt erfahren, ja, so in deinem Arbeitsalltag? Und die häufigste Antwort ist Motivation, also weniger Motivation zu haben. Und ich frag mich son bisschen, hätte man das vor 3 Jahren gestellt, die Frage? Wär die vielleicht auch relativ hochgekommen, weil man so denkt, ja, ich war irgendwie demotiviert von etwas, also ob das was sehr Menschliches ist, das irgendwie so auszudrücken. Von daher, genau. Aber mit Sicherheit sind da, ne Heißt das das weltweit, ne? Ne? Das ist weltweit, ja. Und kann man kann man da so nach Geografien filtern? Also kann man jetzt sagen, na ja, Developer in Europa sind besonders skeptisch, Developer in USA sind irgendwie Hype, Developer in Südostasien sind besonders verzweifelt, Weiß ich nicht, ob man's darauf filtern kann. Also es kommen 23 Prozent aus den USA und nächstgrößte Land war Deutschland an Teilnehmenden. Aber es sind jetzt insgesamt nicht so die Zahlen, also es sind 6000, die daran teilnehmen. Also es ist jetzt nicht so, dass irgendwie 1000000 an die irgendwo Du dann die, deswegen macht's glaube ich nicht so viel Sinn, das stark runterzurechnen, weil dann einfach die die Größe zu klein wird. Genau, aber auf jeden Fall ist schon irgendwo natürlich krass, wie viel Einfluss AI aktuell hat und vor allen Dingen natürlich auch, wie viele Fragezeichen, ne, ist son bisschen aus. Also da ist einfach deutlich mehr Unsicherheit existiert als als in der Vergangenheit. Und ja. Hattest Du noch eine andere Frage bei deiner Überleitung? Oder reicht ihr das schon? Also das ist ja ein übelst umfangreiche Umfrage. Also es sind superviel freien, so viel Kategorien. Hast Du dir davon irgendwas Spezial angeguckt oder was? Hauptsächlich der AI Teil. Ich mein, son paar Sachen ist immer, ganz irgendwie lustig mal drüber zu gucken. Es gibt auch so was wie Hobbys oder so, ne. Also, wo auch spannend ist, dass immer noch der größte Teil Videogames so hat. Also ist einfach sehr klischeemäßig so, ne. Entwickler*innen spielen gerne Videospiele und genau, immerhin bei 47 Prozent ist auch Sport angesagt. Da fällst Du leider raus. Wie hatten wir das gestern? Bewerbungsgespräch, ja, stimmt. What? Also, wenn 1 in dieser Runde hier das Sportlichste von uns wäre, dann ist es geil. Da würde ich ja schon irgendwie auf geil tippen. Ganzen, das nur ein bisschen zusammenfasst, ist so. Ne, vielleicht erinnern wir uns an das Jahr 2026, wo AI halt den Impact hatte, dass es einfach so groß geworden ist, dass man es nicht mehr ignorieren konnte, so, ne. Also es gibt, ja vorher konntest es irgendwie noch ganz gut umschiffen und ne, musstest Du nicht nicht damit auseinandersetzen und ich glaube halt dieses Jahr hat das schon fundamental geändert, dass Du keine Möglichkeit hast. Du musst dich damit auseinandersetzen. Du musstest einen Teil davon irgendwie von dir machen, der Großteil muss das machen und das wird schon irgendwo in die Geschichte eingehen als als sehr entscheidendes Jahr für die ganze Entwicklung. Meinst Du das schon so Mainstream mäßig oder jetzt nur auf unsere, ich will gar nicht sagen Bubble, aber so auf unser Klientel, weil Du jetzt hier direkt über Developer sprichst? Weil es gibt ja schon auch immer mal wieder Schlagzeilen, die so in dem Mainstream schaffen oder so, aber ich glaube so wirklich, Also man man muss sich, glaube ich, noch nicht damit beschäftigen. Man kann, man man man sollte so, ja? Ich bin Ja, ja, ja, aber ich glaube, es ist noch nicht so, dass es jetzt ja, mir mir fehlt irgendwie gerade der der passende Vergleich. Also ich glaub Ja, ich weiß, was Sie verstehen. Genau, aber ich glaube Natürlich, also wahrscheinlich mehr als 50 Prozent der Bevölkerung in Deutschland hat sich noch nicht irgendwie intensiv damit beschäftigt. Die haben vielleicht mein Chat Meeting genutzt, irgendwie eine Frage zu beantworten, aber nicht irgendwie größer über ne, die Folgen und was kann ich alles damit machen und sowas. Das glaube ich schon insofern, ja, und trotzdem ist natürlich, sei es einfach nur, wenn sie Sicherheitsdinge sind oder so was, aber die landen ja auch in der Tagesschau, ne, wenn die die KI Unternehmen daraus machen. Ja, aber Du bist schon dann quasi eher so passiv Betroffener, ne. Ja. Es ist so, wie man sich vor 'n paar Jahren vielleicht son bisschen darum Gedanken machen musste, wie so Algorithmen und Social Networks irgendwie funktionieren, weil die halt viel beeinflussen, aber wirklich 'n Akteur bist Du ja dann nicht in dem in dem ganzen Ding. Das ist aber auch für mich wieder diese, also sonst ist ja mein Argument, wo ich so sage, es wird nicht den großen Knall geben, auch in der Zukunft nicht, weil das das Potenzial dafür hätten wir jetzt sehr schon und es wird ja nicht genutzt. Wir nutzen ja auch da wieder auf Deutschland gesehen einen einen Bruchteil von dem, was AI könnte so in all den Rollen, einfach weil auch verständlicherweise die Strukturen nicht da sind, die Leute nicht da sind, ne, dass das Mindset nicht da ist. Und von daher, das ist, glaube ich, das wird schon länger dauern oder lange dauern, so, bis das irgendwie adaptiert ist, bis die Jobs vielleicht dann wirklich wegfallen in manchen Bereichen oder so was, einfach weil's aus den Strukturen nicht so schnell gehen kann, so aktuell. Und ja, da, wo man's vielleicht noch am stärksten merkt, ist dann der Dev Bereich. Und das führt uns doch zu deinem Thema. Klar, ja, 'n Teil davon, dass auch verlässt ja in Deutschland die Motivation oder auch diese Umfrage bisschen negativ ausgefallen ist, ist, dass es bei uns in Deutschland in der Berufslandschaft, gerade für Einsteiger, irgendwie bisschen traurig passiert. Also wir hatten ja 'n extremes Hoch, zumindest in der IT, das hab ich auch gemerkt. So 20 22, Mitte 20 22 war die die Menge an Jobs oder an Jobangeboten riesig. Es war so der Peak. Seitdem ist das 2 Drittel eingebrochen. Also wir haben nur noch ein Drittel der Menge an Jobangeboten. Moment an in im Sinne von Stellenanzeigen, nicht an eigentlich Einstieg. Ja, okay. Das ist Jobberger, Du, was anderes oder was? Ey, das hat kurz das so gelesen als so das Gesamtangebot an an Stellen, die es quasi gibt, weißt Du? Nee, es geht genau. Es geht Stellenanzeigen und auch spezifisch Einstiegsjobs. Man darf's nicht verwechseln mit, ne, das da geht's den Peak, aber es ist auch 46 Prozent geringer im Vergleich zu 20 19. Also es ist einfach wirklich Mhm. Große Teil gesunken, aber auch nicht nur in der IT. Die IT ist mit Abstand am, nee, nicht mit Abstand, aber sie ist am meisten betroffen. 77 Prozent Fall in der in der IT. Einstieß Jobs, aber auch Werbebranche, Projektmanagement leidet außer darunter. Es gibt 'n paar Bereiche, die nicht so betroffen sind oder eher positiv, zum Beispiel Pflege, Medizin und auch in Gastro Lebensmittel. Die sind eher 'n bisschen positiv. Und was sich auch entwickelt hat, fand ich's spannend, das gilt nicht für Ausbildungsstellen und duale Stellen. Das heißt, das ist scheinbar dann noch so der Teil der, wo Unternehmen sagen, okay, da sehen wir immer noch 'n großen Mehrwert, wenn wir Leute ausgehen. Ich ich würde diese Zahlen anders lesen. Ich würde sagen, das ist einfach nur 'n Indikator davon, dass wir noch nie genügend Ausbildungsstellen im IT Bereich hatten und dementsprechend da gar nicht so viel jetzt wegfallen müssen, diese Kurskorrektur, die es im Gesamtjobangebot vielleicht gibt, zu kompensieren. Oder mein Argument, das sind alles eher Konzerne und größere Unternehmen, die zu langsam waren, ihre Ausbildungsplätze zu streichen. Oh, weiß nicht. Aber ich glaube, wir hatten wir hatten ja schon immer 'n Mangel an Ausbildungsplätzen, gerade im IT Space, So. Es ist ja es ist ja es ist ja mehr geworden. Es ist 50 Prozent mehr Stellen seit 20 19. Es ist nicht so, dass im Vergleich sozusagen, ne, immer noch gleich viele sind und dann ist jetzt einfach, sondern es sind wirklich deutlich mehr geworden. Uhren. Und ich glaube erstens, ich hab auch dort schon, ich finde das Konzept gut und Schrift, die Unternehmen merken halt auch, wenn wir Leute irgendwie reinholen wollen, Leute, dann ergibt es deutlich mehr Sinn, die halt schon vor der Ausbildung reinzuholen, sodass man sie auch wirklich spezifisch für das ausbildet, was das sollte man braucht. Genau. Und eine Zahl, die ich's auch noch spannend finde, die ich halt wirklich sehr finde, ist die Jugenderwerbslosigkeit. Also Leute zwischen 15 und 24 ist gestiegen von 5.9 Prozent, in 20 23 auf 7.1 Prozent, 20 25. Und das ist son bisschen, es war für mich sone Bestätigung von dem, was immer son bisschen devolös war, dass, ja, irgendwie auch KI, obwohl es nicht nur KI ist, also das haben Sie auch ganz deutsch gemacht, dass es auch einfach der Markt ist, der gerade abnimmt, aber KI das läuft schon mal beschleunigt hat, das wirklich dazu führt, dass diese Branche irgendwie gerade schwächer wird oder Im Einstiegsbereich. Staat. Im Einstiegsbereich, ja klar. Die reden jetzt nicht über andere, aber ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es in also im Nichteinstiegsbereich so viel nach oben geht. Hab ich keine Zahlen zu, also wenn ihr da was wisst, gerne. Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es da irgendwie jetzt rosig aussieht. Also ich kann hab jetzt natürlich auch keine konkreten belastbaren Zahlen oder so, aber so anekdotische Daten. Wenn ich mir anguck, wie viele Headhunter Anfragen in meinem LinkedIn Postfach pro Woche landen, hat sich das Gefühl in den letzten paar Jahren nicht groß geändert. Weder nach oben noch nach unten. Okay, würd's auch mal interessieren. Ich könnte mir vorstellen, Ja, die Zahl von einem Post macht, die würd mich mal echt interessieren. Was vielleicht auch ist, dass einfach die Schere da auch weiter auseinandergeht, ne? Also das heißt, diejenigen, die jetzt sehr gut sind und jetzt sehr gefragt sind, tendenziell noch mehr auch verlangen können und noch gefragter sind, also dass man für diese Position, na, sehr viel auch bereit ist auszugeben von mir aus und dass der ganze andere Bereich, wo das nicht so ist und da fallen dann Junior Positionen auch dazu, dass die noch ohne interessanter werden. Ja, das dran ich. Würd ich unterschreiben, glaub ich. Tja, 'n bisschen irgendwie traurige Schlussnote, finde ich. Also, mich war's traurig. Ich hab eine lustige Schlussnote. Ich weil mich mach, also, ja? Okay, machen wir jetzt Nein, wenn Du das Thema mach jetzt das Thema fertig. Ja, ich, also natürlich, ich finde es schwierig. Es es sind da alles, ich mein, es verändert sich einfach extrem viel, so, ne? Und wir müssen irgendwie gesellschaftlich und Unternehmen und und so weiter, wir müssen alle gucken, wie geht es irgendwie weiter? So, und das sind natürlich viele Fragezeichen, die da sind. Und andererseits ist ja bei so 'ner Disruption und bei Dingen, die irgendwie passieren, ist auch erst mal okay, dass jetzt nicht alles optimal so im ersten Schritt wird. Und es wird jetzt, es wird sich ja auch, das wird sich ja irgendwie weiterentwickeln. Schon, aber stell dir mal vor, Du kommst ausm Studium, hast irgendwie angefangen mit ITs das Beste, kommst Du raus, dann stehst Du. Ja, das ist natürlich auch, wenn Dennis das sagt oder wenn wir das hier sagen, kommt das natürlich auch aus 'ner sehr privilegierten Position, ne. Ja, natürlich und natürlich ist das kacke, so, aber das wahrscheinlich aber schon mal passiert in anderen Bereichen. Klar, dass das jetzt kein Einzelfall ist, schon, aber dass mich das traurig macht, ist doch Also auch verständlich. Ich werd gern eine andere Zeit. Ich hätt gern das New Share Wert, wo es gleich gefackelt. Zumindest so in 15 Jahren wieder, wenn es dein Freund relevant wird. Ja, ja. Das ist ein, das das, klar, dass das nicht vielleicht mal braucht und das alles eine Und genau, ich hoffe, das ist natürlich dann das, also deswegen der Optimismus sozusagen. Ich hoffe natürlich, dass wir dafür Lösungen finden werden und Wege finden werden, damit umzugehen. Ja, wenn man sich anguckt, wie die Finanzwirtschaft 2008 dastand, wie die IT Wirtschaft nach der Dotcom Bubble irgendwie dastand, wir sehen ja schon, dass es immer mal auch sehr stark, sehr schnell bergab gehen kann, aber dass da immer eine Recovery Phase irgendwie danach kommt, so, ja. Von daher passiert das wahrscheinlich schon wieder. Ich wollt noch was Lustiges erzählen. Und zwar hab ich diese Woche das 1. Mal seit langem oder seitdem ich mich dran erinnern kann, Microsoft User beneidet. So, das kommt ja schon selten vor. Oh, ja. Ohne jetzt zu haaten, aber es gibt halt einfach jetzt nicht so das eine Ding, wo ich sagen würde, das läuft da irgendwie so viel geiler. Und ihr seid ja bestimmt alle Fans von diesen haptischen Trackpads in euren MacBooks. Frontpage, bin ich im Fan vor. Gut, das ist jetzt schon sehr lange her, das muss man den Kindern dann erklären, aber haptische Trackpads Zone, Glas und Motoren und so. Du Du Du merkst so quasi, wo Du drückst, weil unten drunter was probiert. Und Microsoft hat das jetzt angekündigt, sowohl in Hardware als Sachensaft für Mäuse zu bringen. Sie haben eine eigene, die 1. Eigene Maus dafür gemacht und es gibt quasi Treibersupport. Und wenn Du quasi dein dein Fenster irgendwie oben an die Ecke quasi einrastest oder so, dann vibriert halt so deine Maus oder Du hast eine Kante getroffen oder Du kannst so was machen, wie wenn Du über 'n Button havest und so weiter hatten. Wie cool ist das denn eigentlich so, ja? Das ist so dieses Mausparadigma so seit gefühlt 40 Jahren so unverändert und jetzt mal irgendwie eine coole Idee und auch irgendwie eine 1 schöne kreative Umsetzung davon, dachte ich, das hätt das ist eigentlich son son, was ja auch Apple zugetraut hätte. Mhm. So und das da dacht ich so, ja, das hätte ich gerne. So, weil wir immer nur so nicht so auf diese Welt drauf gehauen, da gibt's auch irgendwie manchmal coole Sachen, wollte ich noch mal erwähnt haben. Nee, find ich schön. Ist wirklich geil, weil jetzt in dem Spiel, was wir grad, Prototypen, hat auch wirklich Hektik am Handy noch mal superviel ausgemacht von der Citizen und allein, ne, das dann aber auch mit 'ner Maus am Rechner schon mal son bisschen anfühlen zu können oder einfach zu haben, ist, glaub ich, megageil. Das macht sich da alles son bisschen besser, ne. Ja. Ne, kann man sich 'n bisschen freuen, so. Ja, dass man wirklich über son Widerstand auch drüber rollt oder so, ne. Also es Ja, beim Scrollen, dass Du merkst, so, keine Ahnung, tut man's irgendwie an, ja. Aha. Verrückt, dass da noch keiner früher drauf gekommen ist. Vielen Dank für diese unglaublich knackige und Sehr gerne, Gerrit. Danke für die Moderation. Sehr gerne. Wer jetzt noch da weiß und das hört, es würd mich sehr über ein Feedback freuen unter Nee, Anruf. Nein, Podcast at Programmier Punkt bar. Okay, über den Teil brauchen wir kein Feedback, das regeln wir im Nachgang selbst. Muss ich sagen. Oder direkt an mich selbst, an Garelt at Programmier Punkt Bar. Ich freu mich immer über Wer nimmt's? Wunderbar. Ihr könnt auch einfach in der Folge direkt den Thumps-up- und Thumps-Daumen-Button in den Shownotes drücken und da 'n Kommentar hinterlassen. Oder er kommt auf unseren Discord Shareel. Server, danke. Und ja? Redet damit, Gardelt. Ehrlich? Auf dem Discord Server, ja. Das ist jetzt nicht die beste Werbung dafür, aber okay. Aber lässt sich das noch machen. Ansonsten musst Du noch was zu sagen? Programmierkorn, irgendwas? Programmierkorn, Tickets verkauft Tickets verkauft läuft's, Es wird knapp. Bealt euch, wenn ihr Tickets haben wollt. Nächstes Meet-up ist am zweiundzwanzigsten Oktober. So. Und was ich noch sagen wollte, wenn ihr Hörerinnen seid und in München seid, dann schreibt uns doch auch mal bitte eine E-Mail an Podcast at Programmier Punkt bar oder Jan at Programmier Punkt bar, weil ich bin in München auf 'nem Event und da, vielleicht können wir da son Hörerinstammt spontan organisieren. In der nächsten Woche bin ich Nee, was ist 'n das? Das überleg ich grade. Richtig in der nächsten Folge noch mal. Das Podfluencer Festival findet nämlich in München statt. Da trifft sich so die deutsche Podcasting Landschaft und ich bin eher am Start. Kann das mal jemand denkst, kannst Du das mal kurz googeln? Nee, Influenza. Ja, kann ich. Und das ist Freitag und Samstag und ich reiß quasi Freitagabend an, da könnte man sich, ihr habt das doch in Berlin auch gemacht, mal so spontan mit 'n paar Hörerinnen getroffen. Ja, vielleicht kann man so was ja 'n bisschen auch übel machen. Ich kenn mich da zwar nicht so aus. 23 und vierundzwanzigster Oktober. Ja, können wir ja dann, je nachdem wie viele und ob man sich irgendwie in eine Bar sitzt oder keine Ahnung, können wir da mal schauen. Also das, ne, wer kommt, kriegt bei mir, oder? Wenn Du das so sagst Erst mal müssen wir wissen, ob da überhaupt jemand kommen würde, der war von uns was Also schreibt uns, meldet euch aufm Discord Server, meldet euch bei mir, keine Ahnung, wir erklären das. Und wenn da Bedarf, ist genau bestimmt schon was organisiert. Das wollt ich nur spontan pitchen. Liebe geht raus an euch, an alle. Wunderbar. Bis dann. Danke. Tschau, tschau. 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Heute sitzen wir hier zu dritt in der News 40 26 und wir sitzen schön in der Reihe, dass wir diesmal kein Problem haben, unseren Namen mal in Ort und zu sagen. Ich bin der Gareth Wok. Ich bin Dennis Becker.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und ich bin Jan Gregor Inglrikeiville. Moin moin. Und ich versteh überhaupt\n\nSpeaker 0: nicht morgen in der Last. Wir kommen heute mit ja, zu dritt mit, sag ich mal, 'ner kleinen knackigen Grunde und haben folgende Tinder, weil wir werden uns anschauen, was OpenA gestern so in den Dev Days besprochen hat. Es war nicht dabei, aber, ja, wir müssen uns gleich erklären, warum Du jetzt auf einmal überall Punkte siehst. Der Dennis wird uns erklären, was so gerade der Stand der Devs überhaupt ist, also wie so das Feeling ist.\n\nSpeaker 2: Erklären ist gut, aber ich berichte über eine, berichte über eine Umfrage.\n\nSpeaker 0: Genau, aber, weil ja, Du erklärst uns, warum die zahlen lassen sind.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, aber erklären ist, als hätte ich irgendwie, als genau, als könnte ich dir auch noch zusätzlich irgendwie sagen, warum das alles so ist. Jetzt bei rauf. Okay, mache ich. Also deine deine Meinung.\n\nSpeaker 3: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und ich darf heute ein bisschen berichten, warum, passt ganz gut eigentlich dazu, warum die, ja, warum eigentlich auch nicht, ich bin indische Konstruktu. Warum Berufsersteiger es momentan ein bisschen schwer in Deutschland haben. Und bevor wir damit loslegen, machen wir wieder Service und aus dem letzten Mal, aber diesmal knackiger. Und zwar ist 5 Punkt 5 rausgekommen. Wann auch am Montag, ne?\n\nIch glaub, es war Montag. Genau, passt zu der Riege der 5 Punkt 5 Familie zu Opus 5, was ja schon vor 2 Wochen rausgekommen ist oder anderthalb. Und es diesmal kürzer zu machen, 30 Prozent schneller zu Sond 35 Prozent billiger, was nicht nur an den Token, neuen Tokenkosten liegt, sondern auch an der Tokeneffizienz. Sehr von der Performance sehr, sehr nah an Oboes 5 Punkt 5 und ich glaube sogar auch von in so kommuniziert sehr, sehr stark in sehr abgegrenzten und klaren Aufgabendefinitionen. Also ne, so wie man's, glaub ich, schon häufiger gemacht hat, Obus 5 Punkt 5 für Spreadstorming und Plan erstellen, was auch immer und dann Sonne 5 Punkt 5 einfach losrennen lassen und das Ding aufsetzen.\n\nSo viel dazu, dann Das\n\nSpeaker 1: war doch mal kurz und knackig. Das ist aber man muss ja auch mal auf die Schulter laufen, das schaffen wir nicht immer.\n\nSpeaker 0: Vielleicht noch kurz dann. Heiko, 5.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich bin früh, zu früh geklopft.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wo siehst Du überall Punkte und warum?\n\nSpeaker 4: Ja, das\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich hab gestern mit leichten Startschwierigkeiten den Livestream zu den OpenAI Dev Days geguckt und ich muss sagen, mein persönlicher und ich muss sagen, mein persönlicher Untertitel ist so das Open Air Copycat Festival. Ich glaub, also es gibt superviel, was wir veröffentlicht haben und ich glaub, am sinnvollsten ist es, wenn wir einmal so diese Liste runterrattern und dann könnt ihr vielleicht danach irgendwie noch sagen, okay, da sollten wir vielleicht noch mal drüber reden und da wir fragen oder das war irgendwie besonders interessant, aber wir machen erst mal so den den Schnelldurchlauf. Und dann seht ihr vielleicht auch, warum ich gesagt hab, das ist Copyright Festival, was gar nicht so negativ gemeint ist vielleicht. Also ich glaub, das, was am allermeisten in den Schlagzeilen gekommen ist, auch im Mainstream irgendwie angekommen, ist Open Air dots. Das ist so Ihre Interpretation 1 Personal Agents sowie bei Openclaw, bei Hermes, bei, wie hieß das, von Metamuse?\n\nIst ich fand's auch optisch sehr nah an an MUS irgendwie son bisschen cute gemacht, son bisschen Personality drin, nicht nur so Aufgaben abarbeiten und so was. Kommt mit 'nem eigenen Computer Use Model, das quasi nicht nur bei dir laufen lassen kannst, sondern kontinuierlich twanty for seven in der Cloud für dich läuft. Und das hab ich mir noch nicht ganz angeguckt, aber sie haben's angekündigt mit sonem eigenen Rule Model für, was darfst alleine machen und wofür musst Du bitte mich da noch mal fragen, bevor Du's fertig machst? So. Rollout jetzt grade so am Laufen.\n\nBei mir ist das im Browser schon verfügbar. In der App zickt das grade noch, aber es ist schon angekommen. Und in Deutschland nur für Business Enterprise Premium Plaar Kunden und nicht für die normalen JtipT Abonnenten verfügbar. So, dann haben Sie noch vorgestellt Ich frage,\n\nSpeaker 3: das ist\n\nSpeaker 2: jetzt der Schnelldurchgang. Ja. Das weiß ich jetzt, okay.\n\nSpeaker 1: Willst Du willst Du schon konkreter fragen oder?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, nein, ich will das erzählen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ach so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, dann Nein, nein, nein, ich wir machen jetzt den Schnelldurchgang. Dann stell\n\nSpeaker 1: ich gern. Also GPT 6 1 Zoll, Near Astra Intelligence bei 20 Prozent der Kosten von Astra, gleichzeitig vorgestellt Ultrafast für, ich glaub, alle API Modelle achtmal so schnell bei sechsmal denselben Kosten. Da hat mein, weiß nicht, mein Nerd hin dann direkt gerechnet. Das heißt, ich könnte auch einfach 6 Punkt 1 Zoll nehmen für ein Fünftel der Kosten. Sechsmal so viel bezahlen und achtmal so schnell haben, dann hätt ich mir Astra Level achtmal so schnell für nur 20 Prozent teurer.\n\nDas ist eigentlich 'n guter Deal. Wenn ich einfach wenn ich einfach Soll direkt nur auf Ultra Fast irgendwie nutze und den Preisvorteil quasi direkt wieder in Speed verballer, fand ich irgendwie Ich 'n interessantes Proposse.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich recherchier mal parallel, ob es wirklich für alle Modelle gilt. Okay. Hab ich nicht so verstanden, aber machen wir weiter.\n\nSpeaker 1: Dann haben Sie vorgestellt Private Intelligence, was so Ihre Interpretation von Apple Private Cloud Compute ist. Also Sie können dir quasi sicherstellen und garantieren, dass, wenn Sie Inference auf deine requests machen, Sie die Daten nicht sehen, die Daten dürfen so persistiert werden, dass alles sehr epemural ist und Du damit quasi auch sensibles Zeug ihnen übergeben kannst. Und haben da auch schon so mit Databrix und so 'n paar Partner vorgestellt, die das direkt mit ihnen machen. Zu Kodex gab's auch News. Es gibt jetzt Kodex in der Cloud, dass quasi Kodex an deinen Aufgaben arbeiten kann, wenn dein Rechner zugeklappt ist oder wenn Du ihn nur irgendwie über die App mobil unterwegs irgendwie anstößt.\n\nGleichzeitig gibt's jetzt auch Codecs remote, dass Du quasi von deinem Handy auf die Codex Session zugreifen kannst. Und sie haben das Codexial iHarness Open Source vorgestellt, da kann man jetzt auch mal reinschauen. So was find ich ja irgendwie immer ganz interessant. Ja, Du hast auch gesagt, das gab's grad noch nicht. Das war für mich auch so die Cloud\n\nSpeaker 3: Interpretations,\n\nSpeaker 1: nein, Interpretations Imitationsteil der der ganzen Session, weil ich mir auch schon mal son Vater gefragt hab, so ging das nicht irgendwie vorher schon die ganze Zeit? Dann haben sie eine Decitions API vorgestellt, was im Prinzip das Kontoangebot zu Jeffis, über das wir ja letztes Mal in den News gesprochen hatten, basiert auf dem Luna Model. Ist halt auch so sehr gescope. Kannst es kann dir nur vorgefertigte Antworten geben, kann quasi nur so schnelle Entscheidungen für dich treffen. Sehr schnell, sehr kleiner Kontext, ja, nein, top oder top.\n\nSpeaker 0: Aber auch so billig und\n\nSpeaker 1: ja, weil's halt auf Luna ist, ne. Dann haben sie vorgestellt so eine ganze Suite an Tools unter dem Titel Spaces, wo Du gemeinsam an Dokumenten, Präsentationen, Knowledge Base Sachen irgendwie arbeiten kannst, interaktive Widgets da reinbauen kannst. Das war, glaub ich, der Moment, wo so Notion und Google Suite son bisschen der Arsch auf Grundeis gegangen ist, weil das ja genau das ist, was sie auch grade irgendwie Also die kommen ja quasi aus der anderen Ecke, die haben schon immer diese Produktivitätssachen und versuchen da jetzt AI reinzuballern und gefühlt überholt sie Open AI gerade links und sagt einfach so, na ja, wir haben schon das AI dieses Produktivitätszeug, So, das bauen wir jetzt da irgendwie einfach ein und dann haben wir das auch. Sie haben Tupet in Slack und Teams vorgestellt, was quasi das Äquivalent zu Clayo Attack ist, über das wir ja auch schon hier mehrfach gesprochen haben, was mich heute Morgen übrigens damit begrüßt hat, dass sein Budget ausgelaufen ist bei uns. Muss man gleich noch mal 'n paar Münzen nachwerfen oder wir wechseln jetzt einfach direkt auf GPT.\n\nSpeaker 2: Schon erledigt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, siehste, wunderbar alles das durch. Dann haben sie vorgestellt, dass sie jetzt verbesserte Plug ins haben. Ein Plug in, was sie auch vorgestellt haben, sein Meeting Plug in, was jetzt direkt in jeden Zoom, Google Meet, Call, whatever rein kann und quasi das trancriben kann für dich, so Items ableiten kann, das direkt in deine Spacets Spaces, Knowledge Graph Sachen irgendwie einfließen lassen kann, aufbauen, ohne dass Du irgendwie was waszutun musst. Sie haben vorgestellt Sign in with ChatGPT, GPT, was so auf der einen Seite son einfacher Identity Provider ist, wie bei Single Sign und auch, aber für alle Pro und Hör Abonnenten auch ein Modell sein wird, bring your own Tokens quasi zu ermöglichen. Das heißt, Du musst nicht mehr bei OpenAI deinen API Token erzeugen und dann dann irgendein Tool hochladen oder so was, sondern Du kannst dich quasi jetzt einmal mit OpenAI anmelden und dann können diese Tools entweder deine Subscription oder quasi deine Extra Tokens zu API Preisen verwenden, die nach Modelllassungen.\n\nSon bisschen, was ich da 'n bisschen schade fand oder zumindest nicht mehr Infos dazu gelesen hab, ist, dass nichts dazu stand, ob sie vielleicht auch was 'n bisschen von deinem globalen Kontext weiterreichen würden, ne? Weil es wär ja vielleicht könnte man das so machen wie bei Single Sign On, kannst Du ja bei manchen Tools auch auswählen, ne, wenn Du Sign On mit mit Google machst so, welche Rechte dafür diese Anwendungen grade bekommen, in die ich mich hier mit Google anmelde. Und da könnte man ja auch sagen, hier okay, wenn ich mich jetzt in, ich weiß nicht, Slack Open AI anmelde, dann kann da vielleicht 'n bisschen was von meinem persönlichen Kontext schon mitkommen und Sie wissen automatisch schon son bisschen was dann für mich so. Dann musste ich 'n bisschen schmunzeln. Sie haben dann nämlich auch bei diesem Sign in vorgestellt, ja, es gibt jetzt auch übrigens diesen Fünfhunderter Tier und die die Menge ist irgendwie komplett ausgerastet.\n\nUnd ich fand son bisschen aufs Kurze, okay, wir stellen jetzt 'n 'n Pricing Tier vor, was mehr als doppelt so teuer ist als der andere teuerste Plan, den Es gab ja mal die kurze Zeit diesen Zweihunderter Plan und jetzt gehen wir auf 500 und die haben gesagt, ja, mehr Geld ausgeben, richtig gut und die Ich glaube, keine andere Firma konnte das so irgendwie abziehen, sei so, ihr wollt uns noch mehr\n\nSpeaker 4: Geld geben,\n\nSpeaker 1: jetzt könnt ihr uns noch mehr Geld geben. Natürlich ist es ja 'n guter Deal, weil das Genau. Ist ja eher das ist ja eher besser ist, als es Ich bin super traurig,\n\nSpeaker 2: dass es halt bis es Umfeld nicht gibt, den Plan. Ja. So, ne. Da wär's ja da wär's ja 'n Riesenmeergewinn, wenn wir 'n Fünfhunderter Plan haben könnten.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich bin ich bin voll bei dir, aber ich fand halt diese Situation so skurril, dass er halt da steht und hinter ihm gehen diese Also Sam Ortman steht auf der Bühne, diese diese Pricing Modelle fallen da so irgendwie in die Slide rein und alle bei 5 und dann\n\nSpeaker 4: so, oh, megagut, megagut irgendwie.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Übrigens auch, kleine Randnotiz, 1200000000 Weekly Active Users. ChatGPT haben Sie auch gesagt, wenn wir schon mal dabei sind. Ja. Dann son paar kleine Randnotizen noch, die Agents API können jetzt auch Computervideos unterstützen.\n\nWie gesagt, Plug ins sind verbessert, können jetzt eigenes UI mitbringen, was son bisschen mich erinnert hat an dieses, gibt's ja jetzt auch MCP mit eigenem, was eigenes UI mit ausliefern kann. Da hab ich son bisschen, da hat mich das dran erinnert. Und Sie haben so als kleines Gimmick am Ende vorgestellt dieses Codex Game Studio, was so aussah wie son Gameboy unter Du deine minigeweibkoteten Spiele da direkt machen kannst und haben natürlich dann jeden Teilnehmer da direkt einen verschenkt. Da hat's mir dann 'n bisschen leidgetan, dass es nicht vor Ort dabei war. Also wenn irgendjemand von OpenAI zuhört, das nächste Mal werden wir gerne eingeladen,\n\nSpeaker 3: so.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wo war das denn?\n\nSpeaker 1: San Francisco, so. Wir kennen ja jetzt den Flughafen Gareth, wir kommen dahin, ist kein Thema. Wir brauchen nur 'n Ticket. Danke. So, das ist der der Schnelldurchlauf in paar paar Minuten jetzt.\n\nWas hat euch davon am meisten beschäftigt, mitgenommen, abgeholt?\n\nSpeaker 4: Also erst mal erst mal\n\nSpeaker 2: zu ultrafast. Erst mal gibt es das NU für GPT-6 Astra und das soll aber für soll auch kommen, 6 Punkt 1 Zoll.\n\nSpeaker 1: Okay, aber dann geht ja meine Rechnung auf. Du kannst quasi Mit dem wenn Astra 6 1 jetzt Ach so, nein. Es geht nur für Astra, noch nicht für soll. Ja, aber okay. Genau.\n\nSchade. Damit Doch bald. Doch nicht gehackt. Aber aber bald. Ja,\n\nSpeaker 2: aber bald. Genau. Also ich finde Copycat hört sich 'n bisschen zu negativ an.\n\nSpeaker 1: Okay, lass mich das noch kurz, weil ich hab ja auch am Anfang sehr gesagt, ich mein das gar nicht so negativ, wie es vielleicht klingt. Ich hab da den Stream gestern mit Krischer geschaut und da haben wir auch schon gesagt, na ja, es ist halt viel von dem, was vielleicht schon da war, aber ich glaube auch, wenn man sich Dots anguckt mit diesem Personal Agent Zeug, ist es halt schon auf 'nem sehr tolles Level und ich glaube, dass es die den Gesamtmarkt weiter nach vorne schiebt. Weil wenn sich da son Schwergewicht hinten dran wirft und sagt, okay, wir machen das jetzt auch, ne? Wir versuchen das, was irgendwie Notion machen will, machen wir jetzt mit Spaces. Wir versuchen das, was irgendwie Openclaw, ich sag mal so semiprofessionell amateurhaft vielleicht irgendwie umsetzt, ja?\n\nDas versuchen wir jetzt irgendwie auch selber zu machen. Ich glaube, das bringt schon viel Gewicht mit in die richtige Richtung, so. Und wir haben ja auch schon bei ganz vielen anderen Lounges den letzten Jahren, Jahrzehnten gesehen, dass es gar nicht immer darauf ankommt, dass Du der 1. Bist, sondern viel entscheidender ist, dass Du's halt richtiger machst als vielleicht die anderen, die das voll dir probiert haben. Dementsprechend gar nicht als Vorwurf gemeint, sondern einfach so, da da war, glaub ich, jetzt wenig dabei, wo man sagen müsste oder sagen könnte, das haben wir ja noch nie gesehen.\n\nAber da war viel dabei, wo man ehrlicherweise sagen musste, okay, Du hast es jetzt schon eine deutlich polischtere, besser integrierte, wie auch immer Variante von irgendwas anderem.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, für mich ist halt der große, also was ich daran so spannend finde, ist, dass es halt das irgendwie noch mal so einfacher auf Unternehmensebene auch, ne, einsetzbar macht, so. Und ich meine, ich würde uns bei Lotum als relativ irgendwie progressiv und wir können viele Sachen ausprobieren, irgendwie sehen und trotzdem ist natürlich son Roll out und irgendwie eine Nutzung über alle hinweg deutlich einfacher, wenn es einfach in der Produktqualität rauskommt, die irgendwie spannend ist. Und wenn ich jetzt bei den letzten Modellen, vielleicht nicht, aber das ist nicht ganz richtig. Ich wollt jetzt sagen, nicht so hyped war, die jetzt unbedingt sofort ausprobieren zu müssen, also hab ich mal in der Regel schon getan, waren jetzt hier schon Sachen dabei, wo ich so sage, oh, die würde ich gerne ausprobieren. Ja, und das würde ich gerne machen.\n\nUnd ich mein, dort ist 1, das hat mir heute, hatte ich hier häufig schon noch im Podcast. Na also, der persönliche Assistent, der endlich mal über den ganzen Kontext hinweg die ganze Zeit für mich da ist und das richtig macht. Wir haben's irgendwie von Apple erwartet, weil sie halt den Kontext haben, deinen privaten persönlichen. Ja, ne, Grogbot, Pokee damals und so weiter. Und da gibt's ja gab's ja schon viele Iterationen so, die das Ganze Ja,\n\nSpeaker 1: Pokee, ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Irgendwie versucht haben und und in die Richtung gehen und wenn das jetzt noch mal einen Schritt weiter ist, der einfach irgendwie gut funktioniert und viel von dem gelernt hat, was bis jetzt, ne, noch nicht so funktioniert hat. Und beispielsweise ist halt irgendwie dieses Sicherheitsgefühl, zumindest mal gucken, wie es dann am Ende ist, aber so, was ich jetzt gerade initial bei Dots habe, halt ein deutlich höheres, als wenn ich jetzt mein Hermes oder irgendwas aufsetze, so, ne? Und ich hab's heute Morgen, wie nennt man das, einen erstellt. Und ja, es ist schon irgendwie lustig, dass er dann halt so seinen eigenen Rechner hat, weißt Du und der der kann ja Sachen installieren und die Leben, also das ist einfach so irgendwie 'n cooles 'n cooler Gedanke. Superspannend, dass der Blender bei Default einfach installiert hat so, weil es eben, also wissen, Sie haben wahrscheinlich auch festgestellt, oh, wir sind gut Astra Scouterin, drei-d-Sachen zu bauen so.\n\nAlso das Blender ist 'n Standard Tool, was einfach auf seinem Rechner verfügbar ist, auch, glaub ich, mit anderen\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, das hat sone virtuelle Maschine. Nein, nein, nee, der\n\nSpeaker 2: eigene Maschine Eigen Rechner in der in der Cloud. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Genau. Du kannst beides machen. Also wenn Du deinen DOT erstellst, dann fragt er dich so, hier oder in der Wolke?\n\nSpeaker 2: Oder beides. Und da, ich weiß gar, ich wollte noch mal gucken, ich hab's noch nicht geschafft, was das fürn System ist, weil es sieht 'n bisschen aus wie Chrome OS so von der Aufmachung, weil es gibt unten sone Taskleiste und da ist deine Chrome ja als erstes Symbol, ob's das wirklich 'n Chrome Wars ist, würde ich fast denken nicht, aber zumindest optisch sieht's erst mal 'n bisschen danach aus. Ja, schon. Und das öffnet schon irgendwie noch mal andere Möglichkeiten und\n\nSpeaker 1: Also, es ist ja kein Geheimnis, dass Sam Oltmann 'n großer Steve Jobs Fan ist und da auch son bisschen dem so so nacheifert und Steve Jobs hat ja damals bei der iTunes Musicvorstellung auch gesagt, so, Easy Beats free oder Simple Beats free war, glaube ich, das das Motto so, weil sie gesagt haben, 99 Cent für einen Song zum Runterladen ist halt immer noch cooler als Piracy, weil Du kannst halt im iTunes so einfach draufklicken und der ist da und Du musst dir nicht irgendwie, ne, mit komischen Sachen beschäftigen und dir irgendwelche Viren runterladen. Und ich glaube, das ist halt genau dasselbe, ne? Also natürlich kannst Du vieles von dem, was da jetzt schon kam, gerade mit Dots, hättest Du vorher schon mit mit Hermes machen können oder mit mit mit Pi oder OpenClo, hast Du nicht gesehen, aber wie Du halt sagst, Du musst es halt selber aufsetzen. Du musst dich Security kümmern. Du musst irgendwie diese ganzen Integrationen anstoßen und so.\n\nUnd das ist ja schon auch nicht trivial und erfordert auch einfach Zeit und Mühe und Einsatz. Und wenn Du's jetzt einfach mit deiner OpenRA Subscription einfach mitnutzen kannst und die ganzen Grundunterhaltungen mit deinen Dots sind ja auch umsonst. Also Du zahlst da ja nicht mehr für. Du zahlst nur für die Arbeit, die sie quasi in dedizierte Tasks investieren, ja, machen so, ja, dann ist das dasselbe bedingt. Dann zahl ich ja lieber meine Subscription.\n\nIch glaub, ich brauch da mindestens die Da ist das jetzt, ne? 100 Dollar Subscription. Ja. Aber dafür läuft die Sache halt und ich brauch nicht irgendwie noch 'n 'n VPS irgendwo, wo das alles drauf laufen kann und und bla bla bla. Ja, von daher, ja Das ist cool.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ist das ja dieser Ich hab jetzt schon öfter dieses Wort gehört. Für mich war das eben son Ding von, der hört dir die ganze Zeit zu und der kennt selber, wenn er irgendwie Aufgabe hat.\n\nSpeaker 3: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 1: Nein, das ist einfach nur der das läuft halt auf 'ner Kiste, die nicht schläft. Das ist nicht dein Laptop, dass Du zuklappst und dann ist er halt aus. Und dadurch, dass er auch bereust und das kann er dir immer zuhören, also das ergibt sich daraus, aber das ist nicht das, was primär damit gemeint ist.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Und es ist Irgendwie, ich hatte mir grad ganz kurz nur diese in dem Recap das Video dazu angeguckt und da hatten Sie aus irgend 'nem Grund direkt so Figürchen irgendwie gedruckt. Ja. War irgendwann ist das einfach nur das Baskottchen oder geht's irgendwann darum, dass Du son Figürchen dabei hast und mit dem die ganze Zeit\n\nSpeaker 1: geht? Das dachte ich auch erst, als ihr das vorgestellt habt, so kommt jetzt dieses Hardware Gerät, was wir ja schon mal so rumort haben, aber nein, Du kannst, wenn Du dort erstellst, gibt's son son Character Creator quasi und die sehen alle son bisschen Ja. Aus wie diese diese Figuren, die Du da auch gesehen hast, Aber\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich weiß nicht, weil das ist das ist eigentlich das Weiterreden. Was ich wirklich mal interessant finde, son Ding, was auf deinem Platz steht irgendwie, Leute die ganze Zeit dran.\n\nSpeaker 1: Du musst dir mal die Keynote angucken. Sie haben ja hier mit mit Microduck von Huggingface auch sone kleine Demo gemacht. Ich hätte auch gern son paar Microducks durchs Büro laufen und so und das könnte man vielleicht mit sonem Dot verbinden, aber das ist vielleicht zu zu abgedreht noch. Und nicht in Europa, aber\n\nSpeaker 2: die Apple Watch hatte das sicher die den Anspruch, das zukünftig zu machen. So diese haben Deshalb\n\nSpeaker 1: haben Sie meine geile Multitasking Geste gekillt auf der Apple Watch, nur für dieses scheiße Recap Feature.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, nicht das Recap Feature. Es geht ja dieses den ganzen Tag zuhören und eine Summary geben. Das\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, und wenn dann da Doppeltipps, dann siehst Du das ja aufm Bildschirm.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das ist, glaube ich, rewind oder wie das heißt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das aber das geht ja bei mir auch nicht, weil ist ja in Europa und dafür hab ich, deswegen hab ich mein Watch Essen nicht geupdatet, weil ich meine Multitaskinggäste nicht will.\n\nSpeaker 2: Kannst Du das nicht in irgend 'ner Bedienungshilfe wieder umbiegen?\n\nSpeaker 1: Anyway, weiter geht's. Wie kriegst Du denn, wenn\n\nSpeaker 2: man jetzt als Entwickler diese Kassen hört und sind irgendwie so, kommt schnell auch Dennis. Ich will, ich bin noch nicht so weit, Entschuldigung. Der weitere der weitere, wir haben jetzt grad nur wir haben wir haben gerade nur über Trotz gesprochen. Ja, aber wir könnten War sich sehr\n\nSpeaker 0: über dieses Thema.\n\nSpeaker 2: Machen wir. Was ich sehr spannend. Heute eine Extraausgabe. Ey. Recht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das 1. Mal, dass eine Überleitung ab Überall ich der Jüngste bin. Kann auch\n\nSpeaker 2: sagen, weil Du es zum falschen Zeitpunkt moderiert hast.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nee. Nein, als, ja. Geknackt zu halten und nicht auskotzt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Sehr gut. Aber man muss natürlich auch irgendwie\n\nSpeaker 1: von Dennis, der immer hier sonst steht, in jeder Besprechung, so, wir müssen die News irgendwie mal kürzer machen.\n\nSpeaker 4: Ja, genau. Und wann den nix essen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Einfach auch. Es waren 15 Minuten Monolog von Vielleicht wie viele Hatemail für vor, ja genau, vorkam. So. Denn also dort fand ich nicht das Einzige, was tatsächlich die anderen für den Arbeitskontext superinteressant finde, sind diese spaces, muss ich sagen. Ja.\n\nWeil das halt so die Kombination ist aus, ich mag Conference überhaupt nicht. Wir haben mittlerweile aber einiges in Conference. Du hast Pages, auf denen Du simultan arbeiten kannst, die Aitos können da drauf rumschreiben und so was. Teilweise haben wir das natürlich jetzt in den Teams auch schon, ne, mit irgendwelchen Docs, die in Drehpots eingecheckt werden und irgendwie aktuell werden. Aber da was Vernünftiges, was zusammen mit Slack, aus Meetings und so weiter sich die ganzen Sachen zusammengurt und schönes Produkt angeboten wird, dass man nicht händisch sich darüber Gedanken machen muss, sondern hoffentlich, also so die Werbung, dann einfach funktioniert.\n\nDas finde ich richtig geil. Und auch so was wie, ne, diese Präsentationen, was Du schon sagst, die müssen irgendwie, ne, die haben 'n eigenes Präsentionsfeld. Du kannst Slides mit deinen Kollegen zusammen erstellen und dann halt einfach zu Google Sheets oder PowerPoint exportieren. Das ist so dann der Schritt danach so\n\nSpeaker 1: Und das hat bei der normalen extra Wert draufgelegt in der Präsentation zu sagen, das sind halt, also diese Slides und Dokumente, das sind alles Artefakte, die Du halt bearbeiten kannst. Und diese diese Graphen und so, weil das ja ganz oft Also ich glaub, diese diese Slides, die Gemini zum Beispiel erstellt in in Google Slides, ja, das sind ja einfach nur so starre Bilder ganz oft, wo halt irgendwie alles drin ist. Und sie einfach nur ein Bild in deine 1 light reinsetzen und dann kannst Du halt nicht mehr bearbeiten im Nachgang. Wenn Du eine kleine Änderung machen willst, dann wird das ganze Ding neu generiert und verfälscht sich wieder an son paar Stellen und so. Von daher haben sie, glaub ich, schon zugehört und gesehen, wo da so die Probleme und die Usability Hürden auch sind und am Ende auch wieder da, ne, Easy Beats free.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich glaube, also mein einziges Gegenargument ist so, dass ich schon das Gefühl hab, dass es wichtig für uns ist, dass wir uns nicht so modular kriegen. Und ich hab was Weiß ich\n\nSpeaker 2: nicht, dass das Nee, ja. Geh ich nicht mit. Erzähl weiter. Entschuldigung. Red aus.\n\nSpeaker 1: Beste Folge heut, rede aus.\n\nSpeaker 2: Sprich, ich\n\nSpeaker 0: glaube, was ist halt an dem Set-up, was wir haben mag, ist, dass es\n\nSpeaker 2: Das das sehen die Leute nicht. Ich hab ich hab nur den Kopf geschüttelt. Ich ich vervollständige erst mal deinen Satz. Du findest es nicht gut, dass man 'n Render Login hat, dass man jetzt, ne, dann sagt, okay, auch dieses Second Brainder, wie man's nennt, liegt dann bei einem Anbieter, weil dann der Wechsel zu anderen schwieriger wird und man ist irgendwie auf Open Eye. Und da sage ich, Bullshit.\n\nNein, sage ich nicht. Ich sage, glaube ich nicht Ist\n\nSpeaker 1: das der Joode der ist? Stopp, halt. Halt,\n\nSpeaker 2: stopp. Ich glaube, das ist egal, wenn ich sehe, wie schnell sich das ganze Zeug ändert. Also Open Eye mag jetzt gerade die spannendste Lösung dafür sein und das nutzen wir und wir haben aber überhaupt gar keine Probleme damit, in anderthalb Monaten zu Clay zu wechseln, die Clayd Spaces veröffentlichen und noch 3 coolere Features haben. Ich hab einfach das Gefühl, dass wir in den aktuellen Zeiten machen wir keinen Login mehr auf irgendeine Technologie, weil sich alles so schnell ändert, weil wir die ganze Zeit irgendwie Dinge ändern und das finde ich auch völlig in Ordnung. Und ich würde jetzt nicht sagen, wenn wir so was wie Spaces machen, dann ist das auf jeden Fall ein Commitment für das nächste halbe Jahr und deswegen hätte ich auch keine Angst davor, dass es jetzt uns an Open AI bindet, weil's einfach da irgendwie gerade gut funktioniert.\n\nUnd ich den Agent dann austauschen zu müssen und das Modell austauschen zu wollen, meine Confluence oder meine Obsidian Seite zu pflegen, da seh ich keinen großen Mehrwert drin.\n\nSpeaker 1: Außerdem muss man ja dein Argument nicht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Du hast ja auch gar nicht fertig diskutiert. Ich denk, wir wissen ja gar nicht, was das dein schon kommt ist. Ich sage nur\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja. Ich will aber auf jeden\n\nSpeaker 0: Fall wieder 'n Klo zu Modell nennen. Ja. Und Du bist aber in den Spaces drin. Ja. Da ist die Migration aufwendig.\n\nGeht. Es ich sag nicht, dass es nicht geht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaube, es ist eine Stunde. Ja. Also oder bis aber bis jetzt hat uns, also was wir bis jetzt gesehen haben, hat uns noch nie abgehalten, dass wir irgendwo drin waren, dass wir was Neues benutzt haben in der AI Welt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Trotzdem ist eine Stunde eine Hürde, die Du vielleicht nicht machst, wenn Du denkst, muss nicht unbedingt sein. Und jetzt bei unseren praktisch Projekten sind wir an 'nem Punkt, wo's eigentlich komplett egal ist. Du kannst mit Session einfach den Agent wechseln. Ja. Und es funktioniert, weil das halt Ja.\n\nWas ich das. Aber ich mein, das das ist auch 'n bisschen Geschmackssache und vielleicht auch 'n bisschen 'n 'n Punkt, der für nicht alle relevant ist so. Weil muss man das Model wechseln? Wahrscheinlich nicht unbedingt.\n\nSpeaker 3: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 0: So, aber find ich's tendenziell Pluspunkt, vielleicht kein Argument, Entscheidung zu erklären, aber Pluspunkt, also\n\nSpeaker 2: Dein Model kann er deinen Computer Use nutzen, die Open AI Features zu bedienen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also ich ich Ja. Schon, dass man loggt schon wieder rauskommt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich verstehe dein Argument. Ich sehe den Mehrwert von, lieber was anderes zu nutzen, sich höher, als dass man sich dadurch einschränken sollte. Das ist eigentlich das, was ich sagen will.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich glaub, man muss auch einfach pragmatisch sehen, ja? Wenn Du hier Firma Infrastruktur aufbaust, Du hast 'n Log in an diversesten Stellen, ja? Also wenn Du mal anguckst, wie eng wir an Google gebunden sind Slack. Wenn Du anguckst, ja, wie eng wir an an Slack gebunden sind. Ich glaube, es ist legitim, an 'n paar Stellen zu sagen, wir machen das halt, weil wir uns damit halt 'n sehr hohen Integrationsfaktor einkaufen.\n\nOb das jetzt bei Aufmail der Fall ist oder nicht, sei mal dahingestellt. Aber ich glaube, ganz oft traut man so sehr prinzipiell und dogmatisch auf so Sachen und sagt, okay, ich würde gerne auf jeden Fall irgendwie mir hier den Wendelock in ersparen und portabel bleiben und bla bla bla. Und dabei ist es gar nicht immer notwendig, so. Das nur als kleine Randnotiz für alle da draußen, die sich jetzt auch grade fragen, ob das wichtig ist oder nicht. Ein letzter Punkt noch.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Da ich ja hier in unsere Security COP mit drinsitze, gibt's noch einen Punkt, den ich ganz gerne erwähnen würde. Und zwar eine Sache, die Sie auch vorgestellt haben, ist Codex Security Cloud. Und das ist die Möglichkeit, genau, deinen Code checken zu lassen. Einmal also 'n einmaligen Scan, aber man kann auch sagen, bei jedem Commitment et cetera.\n\nUnd was eigentlich ganz cool ist, dass man darüber Zugriff hat auf die Modelle, was zusammenfasst. Also das sind praktisch, Sonst haben wir ja immer in den Modellen diese Sicherheitsvorkehrungen, weil man nicht irgendwie aus Hackergründen müh Sachen machen darf und deswegen, die Modelle alle müssen eingeschränkt sind und in Daybreak sind sie halt zur Verteidigung von Lücken praktisch offen und über diesen Mechanismus, dass das über die läuft und dann die Scans von ihnen kommen, können sie halt praktisch den Models erlauben, diese Capabilities zu haben und sonst muss man sich halt vorher irgendwie daaybre war halt sehr sozusagen und man Hast\n\nSpeaker 1: Du da angemeldet? Das ist ja nur so auf Bewerbungen hin?\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, aber ich glaube auch, weil wir uns nicht, also weil wir uns da nicht damals nicht für qualifiziert haben irgendwie. Jetzt nämlich vorhin wurde mir\n\nSpeaker 1: das auch wieder angeboten, als ob's Jobcenter war so Daybreak jetzt einmal anschauen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Na ja, aber wie gesagt, Du kommst ja über das andere jetzt an diese Modelle. Du musst jetzt nicht mehr Teil von Daybreak sein.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ach so. Ah, weil Codex Security das mit Genau. Ist okay. Okay. Ja.\n\nCool. Dann einfach vielleicht vielleicht musst Du erklären, was Security COP ist oder was COP allgemein bei uns heißt, weil ich glaub, das sind Abkürzungen, die da draußen erst mal niemand versteht. Nee.\n\nSpeaker 2: Wir haben die nicht erfunden, oder? COP Community of Practice. Ich glaub, ist keine ist keine Lotum Abkürzung, meine ich.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ich hab\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber voll noch nie gehört. Okay.\n\nSpeaker 1: Freu ich aber. Gut. Also das sind auch ignorant.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das sind bei uns Gruppengruppierungen zu unterschiedlichen Themen. Wir haben unsere Design COP. Bei den Devs nennen wir es 'n bisschen anders. Des Talks aber ist sehr ähnlich und seit einiger Zeit Security AI, das sind so Community of Practices oder COP. Hast Du recht, findet man, wenn man googelt nicht, dann ist es doch was hier erfundenes.\n\nOkay. Vielen Dank.\n\nSpeaker 0: Als es zur Lotung kam, das Dow dümmste, also in der Jing soll heißt, wohl das bei jetzt mal so weit.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Und da hatten wir einige von. Du darfst moderieren.\n\nSpeaker 1: Mach mal mach mal 'n geilen Übergang Gerald jetzt auf Kommandons.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ich auch. Ja. Moment, lass dich mir ganz kurz nachgucken. Bist Du männlich?\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja. Oder Ja,\n\nSpeaker 2: ist die Identifizierst sie, Moment.\n\nSpeaker 1: Nein, das hättest Du sagen,\n\nSpeaker 2: identifizierst Du dich als männlich? Das wäre wahrscheinlich 33. Das ist richtig. 31.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber nur beruflich. Dann würde\n\nSpeaker 2: ich sagen, hast Du eine Reihe, eine relativ hohe hohe Chance, weniger motiviert zu sein als vorher.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wenn nicht so da nicht, ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Nein, also es geht, also es geht den State of Devs. Das ist eine Umfrage, die es, glaub ich, jetzt schon seit 10 irgendwas Jahren oder so was gibt, also das stimmt. Ziemlich lange\n\nSpeaker 0: schon 'n paar Mal her.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und wo einfach, ja, Entwickler*innen gefragt werden zu verschiedenen Themen, zu Technologien und so weiter. Und dieses Jahr, wie könnte es auch anders sein, hat natürlich auch AI dort einiges an Einzug erhalten. Was auch ein bisschen schade ist, dass einige der Kategorien und Fragen neu sind. Das heißt Drehen die Vergleichswerte. Dass es fehlen dann son bisschen die Vergleichswerte zu den Jahren vorher.\n\nBeispielsweise eben, ne, was denkst Du, wie sich in den nächsten 5 Jahren irgendwie deine Karriere ändert, ohne dass Du es unter Kontrolle hast, wo so, weiß ich nicht, einen einen gutes Viertel oder mehr, ne, sagen, dass es schon wahrscheinlich ist, dass sich da was ändern wird und sich Ängste machen. Vieles so mentale Gesundheit geht und auch das halt nicht so, ja, wird dadurch vergleichsweise nicht. Also beispielsweise gibt's den Punkt, happing reduceded oder die Frage ist, was hast Du zuletzt erfahren, ja, so in deinem Arbeitsalltag? Und die häufigste Antwort ist Motivation, also weniger Motivation zu haben. Und ich frag mich son bisschen, hätte man das vor 3 Jahren gestellt, die Frage?\n\nWär die vielleicht auch relativ hochgekommen, weil man so denkt, ja, ich war irgendwie demotiviert von etwas, also ob das was sehr Menschliches ist, das irgendwie so auszudrücken. Von daher, genau. Aber mit Sicherheit sind da, ne Heißt das das weltweit, ne? Ne? Das ist weltweit, ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und kann man kann man da so nach Geografien filtern? Also kann man jetzt sagen, na ja, Developer in Europa sind besonders skeptisch, Developer in USA sind irgendwie Hype, Developer in Südostasien sind besonders verzweifelt,\n\nSpeaker 2: Weiß ich nicht, ob man's darauf filtern kann. Also es kommen 23 Prozent aus den USA und nächstgrößte Land war Deutschland an Teilnehmenden. Aber es sind jetzt insgesamt nicht so die Zahlen, also es sind 6000, die daran teilnehmen. Also es ist jetzt nicht so, dass irgendwie 1000000 an die irgendwo Du dann die, deswegen macht's glaube ich nicht so viel Sinn, das stark runterzurechnen, weil dann einfach die die Größe zu klein wird. Genau, aber auf jeden Fall ist schon irgendwo natürlich krass, wie viel Einfluss AI aktuell hat und vor allen Dingen natürlich auch, wie viele Fragezeichen, ne, ist son bisschen aus.\n\nAlso da ist einfach deutlich mehr Unsicherheit existiert als als in der Vergangenheit.\n\nSpeaker 3: Und ja. Hattest Du noch eine\n\nSpeaker 2: andere Frage bei deiner Überleitung? Oder reicht ihr das schon?\n\nSpeaker 0: Also das ist ja ein übelst umfangreiche Umfrage. Also es sind superviel freien, so viel Kategorien. Hast Du dir davon irgendwas Spezial angeguckt oder was? Hauptsächlich\n\nSpeaker 2: der AI Teil. Ich mein, son paar Sachen ist immer, ganz irgendwie lustig mal drüber zu gucken. Es gibt auch so was wie Hobbys oder so, ne. Also, wo auch spannend ist, dass immer noch der größte Teil Videogames so hat. Also ist einfach sehr klischeemäßig so, ne.\n\nEntwickler*innen spielen gerne Videospiele und genau, immerhin bei 47 Prozent ist auch Sport angesagt. Da fällst Du leider raus. Wie hatten wir das gestern? Bewerbungsgespräch, ja, stimmt.\n\nSpeaker 1: What? Also, wenn 1 in dieser Runde hier das Sportlichste von uns wäre,\n\nSpeaker 2: dann ist es geil.\n\nSpeaker 1: Da würde ich ja\n\nSpeaker 4: schon irgendwie auf geil tippen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ganzen, das nur ein bisschen zusammenfasst, ist so. Ne, vielleicht erinnern wir uns an das Jahr 2026, wo AI halt den Impact hatte, dass es einfach so groß geworden ist, dass man es nicht mehr ignorieren konnte, so, ne. Also es gibt, ja vorher konntest es irgendwie noch ganz gut umschiffen und ne, musstest Du nicht nicht damit auseinandersetzen und ich glaube halt dieses Jahr hat das schon fundamental geändert, dass Du keine Möglichkeit hast. Du musst dich damit auseinandersetzen. Du musstest einen Teil davon irgendwie von dir machen, der Großteil muss das machen und das wird schon irgendwo in die Geschichte eingehen als als sehr entscheidendes Jahr für die ganze Entwicklung.\n\nSpeaker 1: Meinst Du das schon so Mainstream mäßig oder jetzt nur auf unsere, ich will gar nicht sagen Bubble, aber so auf unser Klientel, weil Du jetzt hier direkt über Developer sprichst? Weil es gibt ja schon auch immer mal wieder Schlagzeilen, die so in dem Mainstream schaffen oder so, aber ich glaube so wirklich, Also man man muss sich, glaube ich, noch nicht damit beschäftigen. Man kann, man man man sollte so, ja? Ich bin Ja, ja, ja, aber ich glaube, es ist noch nicht so, dass es jetzt ja, mir mir fehlt irgendwie gerade der der passende Vergleich. Also ich glaub Ja, ich weiß, was Sie verstehen.\n\nGenau, aber ich\n\nSpeaker 2: glaube Natürlich, also wahrscheinlich mehr als 50 Prozent der Bevölkerung in Deutschland hat sich noch nicht irgendwie intensiv damit beschäftigt. Die haben vielleicht mein Chat Meeting genutzt, irgendwie eine Frage zu beantworten, aber nicht irgendwie größer über ne, die Folgen und was kann ich alles damit machen und sowas. Das glaube ich schon insofern, ja, und trotzdem ist natürlich, sei es einfach nur, wenn sie Sicherheitsdinge sind oder so was, aber die landen ja auch in der Tagesschau, ne, wenn die die KI Unternehmen daraus machen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, aber Du\n\nSpeaker 2: bist schon dann\n\nSpeaker 1: quasi eher so passiv Betroffener, ne. Ja. Es ist so, wie man sich vor 'n paar Jahren vielleicht son bisschen darum Gedanken machen musste, wie so Algorithmen und Social Networks irgendwie funktionieren, weil die halt viel beeinflussen, aber wirklich 'n Akteur bist Du ja dann nicht in dem in dem ganzen Ding.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das ist aber auch für mich wieder diese, also sonst ist ja mein Argument, wo ich so sage, es wird nicht den großen Knall geben, auch in der Zukunft nicht, weil das das Potenzial dafür hätten wir jetzt sehr schon und es wird ja nicht genutzt. Wir nutzen ja auch da wieder auf Deutschland gesehen einen einen Bruchteil von dem, was AI könnte so in all den Rollen, einfach weil auch verständlicherweise die Strukturen nicht da sind, die Leute nicht da sind, ne, dass das Mindset nicht da ist. Und von daher, das ist, glaube ich, das wird schon länger dauern oder lange dauern, so, bis das irgendwie adaptiert ist, bis die Jobs vielleicht dann wirklich wegfallen in manchen Bereichen oder so was, einfach weil's aus den Strukturen nicht so schnell gehen kann, so aktuell. Und ja, da, wo man's vielleicht noch am stärksten merkt, ist dann der Dev Bereich. Und das führt uns doch zu deinem Thema.\n\nSpeaker 0: Klar, ja, 'n Teil davon, dass auch verlässt ja in Deutschland die Motivation oder auch diese Umfrage bisschen negativ ausgefallen ist, ist, dass es bei uns in Deutschland in der Berufslandschaft, gerade für Einsteiger, irgendwie bisschen traurig passiert. Also wir hatten ja 'n extremes Hoch, zumindest in der IT, das hab ich auch gemerkt. So 20 22, Mitte 20 22 war die die Menge an Jobs oder an Jobangeboten riesig. Es war so der Peak. Seitdem ist das 2 Drittel eingebrochen.\n\nAlso wir haben nur noch ein Drittel der Menge an Jobangeboten.\n\nSpeaker 1: Moment an in im Sinne von Stellenanzeigen, nicht an eigentlich Einstieg. Ja, okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist Jobberger, Du, was anderes oder was?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ey, das hat kurz das so gelesen als so das Gesamtangebot an an Stellen, die es quasi gibt, weißt Du?\n\nSpeaker 0: Nee, es geht genau. Es geht Stellenanzeigen und auch spezifisch Einstiegsjobs. Man darf's nicht verwechseln mit, ne, das da geht's den Peak, aber es ist auch 46 Prozent geringer im Vergleich zu 20 19. Also es ist einfach wirklich Mhm. Große Teil gesunken, aber auch nicht nur in der IT.\n\nDie IT ist mit Abstand am, nee, nicht mit Abstand, aber sie ist am meisten betroffen. 77 Prozent Fall in der in der IT. Einstieß Jobs, aber auch Werbebranche, Projektmanagement leidet außer darunter. Es gibt 'n paar Bereiche, die nicht so betroffen sind oder eher positiv, zum Beispiel Pflege, Medizin und auch in Gastro Lebensmittel. Die sind eher 'n bisschen positiv.\n\nUnd was sich auch entwickelt hat, fand ich's spannend, das gilt nicht für Ausbildungsstellen und duale Stellen. Das heißt, das ist scheinbar dann noch so der Teil der, wo Unternehmen sagen, okay, da sehen wir immer noch 'n großen Mehrwert, wenn wir Leute ausgehen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich ich würde diese Zahlen anders lesen. Ich würde sagen, das ist einfach nur 'n Indikator davon, dass wir noch nie genügend Ausbildungsstellen im IT Bereich hatten und dementsprechend da gar nicht so viel jetzt wegfallen müssen, diese Kurskorrektur, die es im Gesamtjobangebot vielleicht gibt, zu kompensieren.\n\nSpeaker 2: Oder mein Argument, das sind alles eher Konzerne und größere Unternehmen, die zu langsam waren, ihre Ausbildungsplätze zu streichen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Oh, weiß nicht. Aber ich glaube, wir hatten wir hatten ja schon immer 'n Mangel an Ausbildungsplätzen, gerade im IT Space, So.\n\nSpeaker 0: Es ist ja es ist ja es ist ja mehr geworden. Es ist 50 Prozent mehr Stellen seit 20 19.\n\nSpeaker 3: Es ist\n\nSpeaker 0: nicht so, dass im Vergleich sozusagen, ne, immer noch gleich viele sind und dann ist jetzt einfach, sondern es sind wirklich deutlich mehr geworden. Uhren. Und ich glaube erstens, ich hab auch dort schon, ich finde das Konzept gut und Schrift, die Unternehmen merken halt auch, wenn wir Leute irgendwie reinholen wollen, Leute, dann ergibt es deutlich mehr Sinn, die halt schon vor der Ausbildung reinzuholen, sodass man sie auch wirklich spezifisch für das ausbildet, was das sollte man braucht. Genau. Und eine Zahl, die ich's auch noch spannend finde, die ich halt wirklich sehr finde, ist die Jugenderwerbslosigkeit.\n\nAlso Leute zwischen 15 und 24 ist gestiegen von 5.9 Prozent, in 20 23 auf 7.1 Prozent, 20 25. Und das ist son bisschen, es war für mich sone Bestätigung von dem, was immer son bisschen devolös war, dass, ja, irgendwie auch KI, obwohl es nicht nur KI ist, also das haben Sie auch ganz deutsch gemacht, dass\n\nSpeaker 1: es auch\n\nSpeaker 0: einfach der Markt ist, der gerade abnimmt, aber KI das läuft schon mal beschleunigt hat, das wirklich dazu führt, dass diese Branche irgendwie gerade schwächer wird oder Im Einstiegsbereich. Staat. Im Einstiegsbereich, ja klar. Die reden jetzt nicht über andere, aber ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es in also im Nichteinstiegsbereich so viel nach oben geht. Hab ich keine Zahlen zu, also wenn ihr da was wisst, gerne.\n\nIch kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es da irgendwie jetzt rosig aussieht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also ich kann hab jetzt natürlich auch keine konkreten belastbaren Zahlen oder so, aber so anekdotische Daten. Wenn ich mir anguck, wie viele Headhunter Anfragen in meinem LinkedIn Postfach pro Woche landen, hat sich das Gefühl in den letzten paar Jahren nicht groß geändert. Weder nach oben noch nach unten.\n\nSpeaker 0: Okay, würd's auch mal interessieren.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich könnte mir vorstellen,\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, die Zahl von einem Post macht, die würd\n\nSpeaker 2: mich mal echt interessieren. Was vielleicht auch ist, dass einfach die Schere da auch weiter auseinandergeht, ne? Also das heißt, diejenigen, die jetzt sehr gut sind und jetzt sehr gefragt sind, tendenziell noch mehr auch verlangen können und noch gefragter sind, also dass man für diese Position, na, sehr viel auch bereit ist auszugeben von mir aus und dass der ganze andere Bereich, wo das nicht so ist und da fallen dann Junior Positionen auch dazu, dass die noch ohne interessanter werden. Ja, das dran ich. Würd ich unterschreiben, glaub ich.\n\nSpeaker 0: Tja, 'n bisschen irgendwie traurige Schlussnote, finde ich. Also, mich war's traurig.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich hab eine lustige Schlussnote.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich weil mich mach, also, ja?\n\nSpeaker 4: Okay, machen wir jetzt Nein, wenn\n\nSpeaker 1: Du das Thema mach jetzt das Thema fertig.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ich, also natürlich, ich finde es schwierig. Es es sind da alles, ich mein, es verändert sich einfach extrem viel, so, ne? Und wir müssen irgendwie gesellschaftlich und Unternehmen und und so weiter, wir müssen alle gucken, wie geht es irgendwie weiter? So, und das sind natürlich viele Fragezeichen, die da sind. Und andererseits ist ja bei so 'ner Disruption und bei Dingen, die irgendwie passieren, ist auch erst mal okay, dass jetzt nicht alles optimal so im ersten Schritt wird.\n\nUnd es wird jetzt, es wird sich ja auch, das wird sich ja irgendwie weiterentwickeln.\n\nSpeaker 0: Schon, aber stell dir mal vor, Du kommst ausm Studium, hast irgendwie angefangen mit ITs das Beste, kommst Du raus, dann\n\nSpeaker 4: stehst Du.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, das ist natürlich auch, wenn Dennis das sagt oder wenn wir das hier sagen, kommt das natürlich auch\n\nSpeaker 2: aus 'ner sehr privilegierten Position, ne. Ja, natürlich und natürlich ist das kacke, so, aber das wahrscheinlich aber schon mal passiert in anderen Bereichen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Klar, dass das jetzt kein Einzelfall ist, schon, aber dass mich das traurig macht, ist doch Also auch verständlich. Ich werd gern eine andere Zeit. Ich hätt gern das New Share Wert, wo es gleich gefackelt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Zumindest so in 15 Jahren wieder,\n\nSpeaker 4: wenn es dein Freund relevant wird.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist ein, das das, klar, dass das nicht vielleicht mal braucht und das alles eine Und\n\nSpeaker 2: genau, ich hoffe, das ist natürlich dann das, also deswegen der Optimismus sozusagen. Ich hoffe natürlich, dass wir dafür Lösungen finden werden und Wege finden werden, damit umzugehen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, wenn man sich anguckt, wie die Finanzwirtschaft 2008 dastand, wie die IT Wirtschaft nach der Dotcom Bubble irgendwie dastand, wir sehen ja schon, dass es immer mal auch sehr stark, sehr schnell bergab gehen kann, aber dass da immer eine Recovery Phase irgendwie danach kommt, so, ja. Von daher passiert das wahrscheinlich schon wieder. Ich wollt noch was Lustiges erzählen. Und zwar hab ich diese Woche das 1. Mal seit langem oder seitdem ich mich dran erinnern kann, Microsoft User beneidet.\n\nSo, das kommt ja schon selten vor. Oh, ja. Ohne jetzt zu haaten, aber es gibt halt einfach jetzt nicht so das eine Ding, wo ich sagen würde, das läuft da irgendwie so viel geiler. Und ihr seid ja bestimmt alle Fans von diesen haptischen Trackpads in euren MacBooks. Frontpage,\n\nSpeaker 2: bin ich im Fan vor.\n\nSpeaker 1: Gut, das ist jetzt schon sehr lange her, das muss man den Kindern dann erklären, aber haptische Trackpads Zone, Glas und Motoren und so. Du Du Du merkst so quasi, wo Du drückst, weil unten drunter was probiert. Und Microsoft hat das jetzt angekündigt, sowohl in Hardware als Sachensaft für Mäuse zu bringen. Sie haben eine eigene, die 1. Eigene Maus dafür gemacht und es gibt quasi Treibersupport.\n\nUnd wenn Du quasi dein dein Fenster irgendwie oben an die Ecke quasi einrastest oder so, dann vibriert halt so deine Maus oder Du hast eine Kante getroffen oder Du kannst so was machen, wie wenn Du über 'n Button havest und so weiter hatten. Wie cool ist das denn eigentlich so, ja? Das ist so dieses Mausparadigma so seit gefühlt 40 Jahren so unverändert und jetzt mal irgendwie eine coole Idee und auch irgendwie eine 1 schöne kreative Umsetzung davon, dachte ich, das hätt das ist eigentlich son son, was ja auch Apple zugetraut hätte. Mhm. So und das da dacht ich so, ja, das hätte ich gerne.\n\nSo, weil wir immer nur so nicht so auf diese Welt drauf gehauen, da gibt's auch irgendwie manchmal coole Sachen, wollte ich noch mal erwähnt haben. Nee, find ich schön.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ist wirklich geil, weil jetzt in dem Spiel, was wir grad, Prototypen, hat auch wirklich Hektik am Handy noch mal superviel ausgemacht von der Citizen und allein, ne, das dann aber auch mit 'ner Maus am Rechner schon mal son bisschen anfühlen zu können oder einfach zu haben, ist, glaub ich, megageil. Das macht sich da alles son bisschen besser, ne.\n\nSpeaker 3: Ja. Ne,\n\nSpeaker 2: kann man sich 'n bisschen freuen, so. Ja, dass man wirklich über son Widerstand auch drüber rollt oder so, ne. Also es Ja, beim Scrollen,\n\nSpeaker 1: dass Du merkst, so, keine Ahnung, tut man's irgendwie an, ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aha. Verrückt, dass da noch keiner früher drauf gekommen ist.\n\nSpeaker 0: Vielen Dank für diese unglaublich knackige und Sehr gerne, Gerrit.\n\nSpeaker 1: Danke für die Moderation.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gerne. Wer jetzt noch da weiß und das hört, es würd mich sehr über ein Feedback freuen unter Nee, Anruf.\n\nSpeaker 1: Nein, Podcast at Programmier Punkt bar. Okay, über den Teil brauchen wir kein Feedback, das regeln wir im Nachgang selbst. Muss ich sagen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Oder direkt an mich selbst, an Garelt at Programmier Punkt Bar. Ich freu mich immer über Wer nimmt's?\n\nSpeaker 1: Wunderbar. Ihr könnt auch einfach in der Folge direkt den Thumps-up- und Thumps-Daumen-Button in den Shownotes drücken und da 'n Kommentar hinterlassen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Oder er kommt auf unseren Discord Shareel. Server, danke. Und\n\nSpeaker 1: ja? Redet damit, Gardelt. Ehrlich? Auf dem Discord Server, ja. Das ist jetzt nicht die beste Werbung dafür, aber\n\nSpeaker 2: okay.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber lässt sich das noch machen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ansonsten musst Du noch was zu sagen? Programmierkorn, irgendwas?\n\nSpeaker 1: Programmierkorn, Tickets verkauft Tickets verkauft läuft's, Es wird knapp. Bealt euch, wenn ihr Tickets haben wollt. Nächstes Meet-up ist am zweiundzwanzigsten Oktober. So. Und was ich noch sagen wollte, wenn ihr Hörerinnen seid und in München seid, dann schreibt uns doch auch mal bitte eine E-Mail an Podcast at Programmier Punkt bar oder Jan at Programmier Punkt bar, weil ich bin in München auf 'nem Event und da, vielleicht können wir da son Hörerinstammt spontan organisieren.\n\nIn der nächsten Woche bin ich Nee,\n\nSpeaker 0: was ist 'n das?\n\nSpeaker 1: Das überleg ich grade. Richtig in der nächsten Folge noch mal. Das Podfluencer Festival findet nämlich in München statt. Da trifft sich so die deutsche Podcasting Landschaft und ich bin eher am Start. Kann das mal jemand denkst, kannst Du das\n\nSpeaker 2: mal kurz googeln? Nee, Influenza.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, kann ich. Und das ist Freitag und Samstag und ich reiß quasi Freitagabend an, da könnte man sich, ihr habt das doch in Berlin auch gemacht, mal so spontan mit 'n paar Hörerinnen getroffen. Ja, vielleicht kann man so was ja 'n bisschen auch übel machen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich kenn mich da zwar nicht so aus. 23 und vierundzwanzigster Oktober.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, können wir ja dann, je nachdem wie viele und ob man sich irgendwie in eine Bar sitzt oder keine Ahnung, können wir da mal schauen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also das, ne, wer kommt, kriegt bei mir, oder?\n\nSpeaker 1: Wenn Du das so sagst Erst mal müssen wir wissen, ob da überhaupt jemand kommen würde, der war von uns was Also schreibt uns, meldet euch aufm Discord Server, meldet euch bei mir, keine Ahnung, wir erklären das. Und wenn da Bedarf, ist genau bestimmt schon was organisiert. Das wollt ich nur spontan pitchen.\n\nSpeaker 4: Liebe geht raus an euch, an alle. Wunderbar.\n\nSpeaker 1: Bis dann. Danke. Tschau, tschau. Tschüs.",[24015,24026,24035,24046,24050,24054,24065,24068,24081,24094,24099,24106,24113,24117,24122,24126,24139,24151,24162,24166,24174,24179,24183,24187,24194,24207,24214,24222,24235,24248,24251,24263,24267,24280,24284,24297,24310,24315,24319,24328,24338,24343,24347,24358,24371,24374,24378,24389,24393,24397,24403,24414,24425,24432,24445,24458,24462,24475,24488,24492,24505,24510,24517,24522,24529,24539,24552,24565,24576,24582,24585,24594,24603,24610,24617,24628,24635,24639,24647,24651,24655,24660,24664,24670,24681,24685,24695,24703,24707,24714,24720,24724,24730,24741,24754,24764,24777,24783,24794,24798,24802,24806,24819,24825,24832,24844,24849,24853,24862,24867,24878,24883,24890,24901,24912,24915,24920,24924,24930,24939,24951,24964,24976,24982,24988,24995,24999,25005,25014,25020,25029,25033,25038,25045,25057,25062,25066,25073,25077,25086,25091,25095,25099,25108,25114,25118,25122,25131,25135,25148,25161,25173,25179,25192,25196,25202,25208,25217,25230,25241,25246,25250,25254,25258,25271,25284,25288,25297,25301,25305,25312,25325,25338,25342,25348,25352,25356,25368,25380,25387,25393,25397,25403,25409,25413,25424,25430,25434,25446,25450,25458,25462,25466,25470,25483,25489,25493,25497,25501,25505,25518,25522,25526,25530,25534,25540,25548,25552,25556,25560,25564,25570,25582,25593,25597,25610,25621,25627,25633,25637,25646,25650,25655,25659,25663,25669,25677,25683,25688,25695,25705,25708,25712,25718,25730,25734,25738,25751,25757,25765,25771,25775,25779,25788,25793],{"sentences":24016,"speaker":129,"num_words":24025,"start":127,"end":319},[24017,24019,24021,24023],{"text":24018,"start":127,"end":167},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu 1 neuen Folge bei der Programmierbar.",{"text":24020,"start":172,"end":281},"Heute sitzen wir hier zu dritt in der News 40 26 und wir sitzen schön in der Reihe, dass wir diesmal kein Problem haben, unseren Namen mal in Ort und zu sagen.",{"text":24022,"start":286,"end":305},"Ich bin der Gareth Wok.",{"text":24024,"start":309,"end":319},"Ich bin Dennis Becker.",52,{"sentences":24027,"speaker":106,"num_words":24034,"start":319,"end":366},[24028,24030,24032],{"text":24029,"start":319,"end":341},"Und ich bin Jan Gregor Inglrikeiville.",{"text":24031,"start":346,"end":351},"Moin moin.",{"text":24033,"start":351,"end":366},"Und ich versteh überhaupt",12,{"sentences":24036,"speaker":129,"num_words":24045,"start":366,"end":651},[24037,24039,24041,24043],{"text":24038,"start":366,"end":383},"nicht morgen in der Last.",{"text":24040,"start":387,"end":515},"Wir kommen heute mit ja, zu dritt mit, sag ich mal, 'ner kleinen knackigen Grunde und haben folgende Tinder, weil wir werden uns anschauen, was OpenA gestern so in den Dev Days besprochen hat.",{"text":24042,"start":515,"end":586},"Es war nicht dabei, aber, ja, wir müssen uns gleich erklären, warum Du jetzt auf einmal überall Punkte siehst.",{"text":24044,"start":590,"end":651},"Der Dennis wird uns erklären, was so gerade der Stand der Devs überhaupt ist, also wie so das Feeling ist.",78,{"sentences":24047,"speaker":657,"num_words":24034,"start":655,"end":694},[24048],{"text":24049,"start":655,"end":694},"Erklären ist gut, aber ich berichte über eine, berichte über eine Umfrage.",{"sentences":24051,"speaker":129,"num_words":24034,"start":698,"end":739},[24052],{"text":24053,"start":698,"end":739},"Genau, aber, weil ja, Du erklärst uns, warum die zahlen lassen sind.",{"sentences":24055,"speaker":657,"num_words":24064,"start":743,"end":855},[24056,24058,24060,24062],{"text":24057,"start":743,"end":816},"Ja, aber erklären ist, als hätte ich irgendwie, als genau, als könnte ich dir auch noch zusätzlich irgendwie sagen, warum das alles so ist.",{"text":24059,"start":816,"end":828},"Jetzt bei rauf.",{"text":24061,"start":828,"end":841},"Okay, mache ich.",{"text":24063,"start":841,"end":855},"Also deine deine Meinung.",34,{"sentences":24066,"speaker":862,"num_words":106,"start":860,"end":861},[24067],{"text":864,"start":860,"end":861},{"sentences":24069,"speaker":129,"num_words":24080,"start":866,"end":1088},[24070,24072,24074,24076,24078],{"text":24071,"start":866,"end":944},"Und ich darf heute ein bisschen berichten, warum, passt ganz gut eigentlich dazu, warum die, ja, warum eigentlich auch nicht, ich bin indische Konstruktu.",{"text":24073,"start":948,"end":979},"Warum Berufsersteiger es momentan ein bisschen schwer in Deutschland haben.",{"text":24075,"start":983,"end":1042},"Und bevor wir damit loslegen, machen wir wieder Service und aus dem letzten Mal, aber diesmal knackiger.",{"text":24077,"start":1046,"end":1066},"Und zwar ist 5 Punkt 5 rausgekommen.",{"text":24079,"start":1071,"end":1088},"Wann auch am Montag, ne?",63,{"sentences":24082,"speaker":129,"num_words":24093,"start":1091,"end":1491},[24083,24085,24087,24089,24091],{"text":24084,"start":1091,"end":1106},"Ich glaub, es war Montag.",{"text":24086,"start":1110,"end":1178},"Genau, passt zu der Riege der 5 Punkt 5 Familie zu Opus 5, was ja schon vor 2 Wochen rausgekommen ist oder anderthalb.",{"text":24088,"start":1182,"end":1274},"Und es diesmal kürzer zu machen, 30 Prozent schneller zu Sond 35 Prozent billiger, was nicht nur an den Token, neuen Tokenkosten liegt, sondern auch an der Tokeneffizienz.",{"text":24090,"start":1278,"end":1373},"Sehr von der Performance sehr, sehr nah an Oboes 5 Punkt 5 und ich glaube sogar auch von in so kommuniziert sehr, sehr stark in sehr abgegrenzten und klaren Aufgabendefinitionen.",{"text":24092,"start":1377,"end":1491},"Also ne, so wie man's, glaub ich, schon häufiger gemacht hat, Obus 5 Punkt 5 für Spreadstorming und Plan erstellen, was auch immer und dann Sonne 5 Punkt 5 einfach losrennen lassen und das Ding aufsetzen.",122,{"sentences":24095,"speaker":129,"num_words":24098,"start":1495,"end":1510},[24096],{"text":24097,"start":1495,"end":1510},"So viel dazu, dann Das",5,{"sentences":24100,"speaker":106,"num_words":24105,"start":1510,"end":1578},[24101,24103],{"text":24102,"start":1510,"end":1527},"war doch mal kurz und knackig.",{"text":24104,"start":1527,"end":1578},"Das ist aber man muss ja auch mal auf die Schulter laufen, das schaffen wir nicht immer.",23,{"sentences":24107,"speaker":129,"num_words":24112,"start":1582,"end":1602},[24108,24110],{"text":24109,"start":1582,"end":1592},"Vielleicht noch kurz dann.",{"text":24111,"start":1597,"end":1602},"Heiko, 5.",6,{"sentences":24114,"speaker":106,"num_words":24112,"start":1606,"end":1625},[24115],{"text":24116,"start":1606,"end":1625},"Ich bin früh, zu früh geklopft.",{"sentences":24118,"speaker":129,"num_words":24121,"start":1630,"end":1647},[24119],{"text":24120,"start":1630,"end":1647},"Wo siehst Du überall Punkte und warum?",7,{"sentences":24123,"speaker":1654,"num_words":657,"start":1651,"end":1657},[24124],{"text":24125,"start":1651,"end":1657},"Ja, das",{"sentences":24127,"speaker":106,"num_words":24138,"start":1660,"end":2148},[24128,24130,24132,24134,24136],{"text":24129,"start":1660,"end":1768},"Ich hab gestern mit leichten Startschwierigkeiten den Livestream zu den OpenAI Dev Days geguckt und ich muss sagen, mein persönlicher und ich muss sagen, mein persönlicher Untertitel ist so das Open Air Copycat Festival.",{"text":24131,"start":1768,"end":1947},"Ich glaub, also es gibt superviel, was wir veröffentlicht haben und ich glaub, am sinnvollsten ist es, wenn wir einmal so diese Liste runterrattern und dann könnt ihr vielleicht danach irgendwie noch sagen, okay, da sollten wir vielleicht noch mal drüber reden und da wir fragen oder das war irgendwie besonders interessant, aber wir machen erst mal so den den Schnelldurchlauf.",{"text":24133,"start":1950,"end":2011},"Und dann seht ihr vielleicht auch, warum ich gesagt hab, das ist Copyright Festival, was gar nicht so negativ gemeint ist vielleicht.",{"text":24135,"start":2015,"end":2080},"Also ich glaub, das, was am allermeisten in den Schlagzeilen gekommen ist, auch im Mainstream irgendwie angekommen, ist Open Air dots.",{"text":24137,"start":2080,"end":2148},"Das ist so Ihre Interpretation 1 Personal Agents sowie bei Openclaw, bei Hermes, bei, wie hieß das, von Metamuse?",157,{"sentences":24140,"speaker":106,"num_words":24150,"start":2152,"end":2467},[24141,24143,24145,24147,24148],{"text":24142,"start":2152,"end":2236},"Ist ich fand's auch optisch sehr nah an an MUS irgendwie son bisschen cute gemacht, son bisschen Personality drin, nicht nur so Aufgaben abarbeiten und so was.",{"text":24144,"start":2241,"end":2328},"Kommt mit 'nem eigenen Computer Use Model, das quasi nicht nur bei dir laufen lassen kannst, sondern kontinuierlich twanty for seven in der Cloud für dich läuft.",{"text":24146,"start":2328,"end":2441},"Und das hab ich mir noch nicht ganz angeguckt, aber sie haben's angekündigt mit sonem eigenen Rule Model für, was darfst alleine machen und wofür musst Du bitte mich da noch mal fragen, bevor Du's fertig machst?",{"text":2448,"start":2445,"end":2446},{"text":24149,"start":2451,"end":2467},"Rollout jetzt grade so am Laufen.",98,{"sentences":24152,"speaker":106,"num_words":24161,"start":2470,"end":2618},[24153,24155,24157,24159],{"text":24154,"start":2470,"end":2491},"Bei mir ist das im Browser schon verfügbar.",{"text":24156,"start":2491,"end":2526},"In der App zickt das grade noch, aber es ist schon angekommen.",{"text":24158,"start":2530,"end":2592},"Und in Deutschland nur für Business Enterprise Premium Plaar Kunden und nicht für die normalen JtipT Abonnenten verfügbar.",{"text":24160,"start":2594,"end":2618},"So, dann 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so.",{"sentences":24188,"speaker":657,"num_words":24193,"start":2712,"end":2754},[24189,24191],{"text":24190,"start":2712,"end":2746},"Ja, dann Nein, nein, nein, ich wir machen jetzt den Schnelldurchgang.",{"text":24192,"start":2749,"end":2754},"Dann stell",13,{"sentences":24195,"speaker":106,"num_words":24206,"start":2754,"end":3016},[24196,24198,24200,24202,24204],{"text":24197,"start":2754,"end":2762},"ich gern.",{"text":24199,"start":2762,"end":2874},"Also GPT 6 1 Zoll, Near Astra Intelligence bei 20 Prozent der Kosten von Astra, gleichzeitig vorgestellt Ultrafast für, ich glaub, alle API Modelle achtmal so schnell bei sechsmal denselben Kosten.",{"text":24201,"start":2874,"end":2910},"Da hat mein, weiß nicht, mein Nerd hin dann direkt gerechnet.",{"text":24203,"start":2910,"end":2955},"Das heißt, ich könnte auch einfach 6 Punkt 1 Zoll nehmen für ein Fünftel der Kosten.",{"text":24205,"start":2957,"end":3016},"Sechsmal so viel bezahlen und achtmal so schnell haben, dann hätt ich mir Astra Level achtmal so schnell für nur 20 Prozent teurer.",83,{"sentences":24208,"speaker":106,"num_words":24213,"start":3019,"end":3134},[24209,24211],{"text":24210,"start":3019,"end":3035},"Das ist eigentlich 'n guter Deal.",{"text":24212,"start":3039,"end":3134},"Wenn ich einfach wenn ich einfach Soll direkt nur auf Ultra Fast irgendwie nutze und den Preisvorteil quasi direkt wieder in Speed verballer, fand ich irgendwie Ich 'n interessantes Proposse.",36,{"sentences":24215,"speaker":657,"num_words":24221,"start":3134,"end":3199},[24216,24218,24219],{"text":24217,"start":3134,"end":3170},"Ich recherchier mal parallel, ob es wirklich für alle Modelle gilt.",{"text":3175,"start":3170,"end":3173},{"text":24220,"start":3173,"end":3199},"Hab ich nicht so verstanden, aber machen wir weiter.",21,{"sentences":24223,"speaker":106,"num_words":24234,"start":3199,"end":3533},[24224,24226,24228,24230,24232],{"text":24225,"start":3199,"end":3250},"Dann haben Sie vorgestellt Private Intelligence, was so Ihre Interpretation von Apple Private Cloud Compute ist.",{"text":24227,"start":3250,"end":3374},"Also Sie können dir quasi sicherstellen und garantieren, dass, wenn Sie Inference auf deine requests machen, Sie die Daten nicht sehen, die Daten dürfen so persistiert werden, dass alles sehr epemural ist und Du damit quasi auch sensibles Zeug ihnen übergeben kannst.",{"text":24229,"start":3374,"end":3426},"Und haben da auch schon so mit Databrix und so 'n paar Partner vorgestellt, die das direkt mit ihnen machen.",{"text":24231,"start":3429,"end":3444},"Zu Kodex gab's auch News.",{"text":24233,"start":3444,"end":3533},"Es gibt jetzt Kodex in der Cloud, dass quasi Kodex an deinen Aufgaben arbeiten kann, wenn dein Rechner zugeklappt ist oder wenn Du ihn nur irgendwie über die App mobil unterwegs irgendwie anstößt.",116,{"sentences":24236,"speaker":106,"num_words":24247,"start":3537,"end":3709},[24237,24239,24241,24243,24245],{"text":24238,"start":3537,"end":3591},"Gleichzeitig gibt's jetzt auch Codecs remote, dass Du quasi von deinem Handy auf die Codex Session zugreifen kannst.",{"text":24240,"start":3594,"end":3640},"Und sie haben das Codexial iHarness Open Source vorgestellt, da kann man jetzt auch mal reinschauen.",{"text":24242,"start":3640,"end":3665},"So was find ich ja irgendwie immer ganz interessant.",{"text":24244,"start":3665,"end":3690},"Ja, Du hast auch gesagt, das gab's grad noch nicht.",{"text":24246,"start":3690,"end":3709},"Das war für mich auch so die Cloud",61,{"sentences":24249,"speaker":862,"num_words":106,"start":3713,"end":3714},[24250],{"text":3717,"start":3713,"end":3714},{"sentences":24252,"speaker":106,"num_words":948,"start":3719,"end":3994},[24253,24255,24257,24259,24261],{"text":24254,"start":3719,"end":3801},"nein, Interpretations Imitationsteil der der ganzen Session, weil ich mir auch schon mal son Vater gefragt hab, so ging das nicht irgendwie vorher schon die ganze Zeit?",{"text":24256,"start":3805,"end":3898},"Dann haben sie eine Decitions API vorgestellt, was im Prinzip das Kontoangebot zu Jeffis, über das wir ja letztes Mal in den News gesprochen hatten, basiert auf dem Luna Model.",{"text":24258,"start":3898,"end":3915},"Ist halt auch so sehr gescope.",{"text":24260,"start":3915,"end":3964},"Kannst es kann dir nur vorgefertigte Antworten geben, kann quasi nur so schnelle Entscheidungen für dich treffen.",{"text":24262,"start":3967,"end":3994},"Sehr schnell, sehr kleiner Kontext, ja, nein, top oder top.",{"sentences":24264,"speaker":129,"num_words":24098,"start":3994,"end":4008},[24265],{"text":24266,"start":3994,"end":4008},"Aber auch so billig und",{"sentences":24268,"speaker":106,"num_words":24279,"start":4010,"end":4536},[24269,24271,24273,24275,24277],{"text":24270,"start":4010,"end":4026},"ja, weil's halt auf Luna ist, ne.",{"text":24272,"start":4026,"end":4129},"Dann haben sie vorgestellt so eine ganze Suite an Tools unter dem Titel Spaces, wo Du gemeinsam an Dokumenten, Präsentationen, Knowledge Base Sachen irgendwie arbeiten kannst, interaktive Widgets da reinbauen kannst.",{"text":24274,"start":4129,"end":4370},"Das war, glaub ich, der Moment, wo so Notion und Google Suite son bisschen der Arsch auf Grundeis gegangen ist, weil das ja genau das ist, was sie auch grade irgendwie Also die kommen ja quasi aus der anderen Ecke, die haben schon immer diese Produktivitätssachen und versuchen da jetzt AI reinzuballern und gefühlt überholt sie Open AI gerade links und sagt einfach so, na ja, wir haben schon das AI dieses Produktivitätszeug, So, das bauen wir jetzt da irgendwie einfach ein und dann haben wir das auch.",{"text":24276,"start":4373,"end":4490},"Sie haben Tupet in Slack und Teams vorgestellt, was quasi das Äquivalent zu Clayo Attack ist, über das wir ja auch schon hier mehrfach gesprochen haben, was mich heute Morgen übrigens damit begrüßt hat, dass sein Budget ausgelaufen ist bei uns.",{"text":24278,"start":4490,"end":4536},"Muss man gleich noch mal 'n paar Münzen nachwerfen oder wir wechseln jetzt einfach direkt auf GPT.",184,{"sentences":24281,"speaker":657,"num_words":657,"start":4540,"end":4546},[24282],{"text":24283,"start":4540,"end":4546},"Schon erledigt.",{"sentences":24285,"speaker":106,"num_words":24296,"start":4549,"end":5049},[24286,24288,24290,24292,24294],{"text":24287,"start":4549,"end":4571},"Ja, siehste, wunderbar alles das durch.",{"text":24289,"start":4574,"end":4603},"Dann haben sie vorgestellt, dass sie jetzt verbesserte Plug ins haben.",{"text":24291,"start":4603,"end":4766},"Ein Plug in, was sie auch vorgestellt haben, sein Meeting Plug in, was jetzt direkt in jeden Zoom, Google Meet, Call, whatever rein kann und quasi das trancriben kann für dich, so Items ableiten kann, das direkt in deine Spacets Spaces, Knowledge Graph Sachen irgendwie einfließen lassen kann, aufbauen, ohne dass Du irgendwie was waszutun musst.",{"text":24293,"start":4769,"end":4906},"Sie haben vorgestellt Sign in with ChatGPT, GPT, was so auf der einen Seite son einfacher Identity Provider ist, wie bei Single Sign und auch, aber für alle Pro und Hör Abonnenten auch ein Modell sein wird, bring your own Tokens quasi zu ermöglichen.",{"text":24295,"start":4906,"end":5049},"Das heißt, Du musst nicht mehr bei OpenAI deinen API Token erzeugen und dann dann irgendein Tool hochladen oder so was, sondern Du kannst dich quasi jetzt einmal mit OpenAI anmelden und dann können diese Tools entweder deine Subscription oder quasi deine Extra Tokens zu API Preisen verwenden, die nach Modelllassungen.",168,{"sentences":24298,"speaker":106,"num_words":24309,"start":5053,"end":5482},[24299,24301,24303,24305,24307],{"text":24300,"start":5053,"end":5150},"Son bisschen, was ich da 'n bisschen schade fand oder zumindest nicht mehr Infos dazu gelesen hab, ist, dass nichts dazu stand, ob sie vielleicht auch was 'n bisschen von deinem globalen Kontext weiterreichen würden, ne?",{"text":24302,"start":5150,"end":5275},"Weil es wär ja vielleicht könnte man das so machen wie bei Single Sign On, kannst Du ja bei manchen Tools auch auswählen, ne, wenn Du Sign On mit mit Google machst so, welche Rechte dafür diese Anwendungen grade bekommen, in die ich mich hier mit Google anmelde.",{"text":24304,"start":5279,"end":5389},"Und da könnte man ja auch sagen, hier okay, wenn ich mich jetzt in, ich weiß nicht, Slack Open AI anmelde, dann kann da vielleicht 'n bisschen was von meinem persönlichen Kontext schon mitkommen und Sie wissen automatisch schon son bisschen was dann für mich so.",{"text":24306,"start":5391,"end":5406},"Dann musste ich 'n bisschen schmunzeln.",{"text":24308,"start":5410,"end":5482},"Sie haben dann nämlich auch bei diesem Sign in vorgestellt, ja, es gibt jetzt auch übrigens diesen Fünfhunderter Tier und die die Menge ist irgendwie komplett ausgerastet.",163,{"sentences":24311,"speaker":106,"num_words":24314,"start":5486,"end":5699},[24312],{"text":24313,"start":5486,"end":5699},"Und ich fand son bisschen aufs Kurze, okay, wir stellen jetzt 'n 'n Pricing Tier vor, was mehr als doppelt so teuer ist als der andere teuerste Plan, den Es gab ja mal die kurze Zeit diesen Zweihunderter Plan und jetzt gehen wir auf 500 und die haben gesagt, ja, mehr Geld ausgeben, richtig gut und die Ich glaube, keine andere Firma konnte das so irgendwie abziehen, sei so, ihr wollt uns noch mehr",74,{"sentences":24316,"speaker":1654,"num_words":657,"start":5699,"end":5704},[24317],{"text":24318,"start":5699,"end":5704},"Geld geben,",{"sentences":24320,"speaker":106,"num_words":24327,"start":5707,"end":5802},[24321,24323,24325],{"text":24322,"start":5707,"end":5723},"jetzt könnt ihr uns noch mehr Geld geben.",{"text":24324,"start":5728,"end":5752},"Natürlich ist es ja 'n guter Deal, weil das Genau.",{"text":24326,"start":5756,"end":5802},"Ist ja eher das ist ja eher besser ist, als es Ich bin super traurig,",33,{"sentences":24329,"speaker":657,"num_words":24337,"start":5802,"end":5883},[24330,24332,24333,24335],{"text":24331,"start":5802,"end":5829},"dass es halt bis es Umfeld nicht gibt, den Plan.",{"text":2640,"start":5829,"end":5833},{"text":24334,"start":5833,"end":5840},"So, ne.",{"text":24336,"start":5840,"end":5883},"Da wär's ja da wär's ja 'n Riesenmeergewinn, wenn wir 'n Fünfhunderter Plan haben könnten.",28,{"sentences":24339,"speaker":106,"num_words":24342,"start":5883,"end":6022},[24340],{"text":24341,"start":5883,"end":6022},"Ich bin ich bin voll bei dir, aber ich fand halt diese Situation so skurril, dass er halt da steht und hinter ihm gehen diese Also Sam Ortman steht auf der Bühne, diese diese Pricing Modelle fallen da so irgendwie in die Slide rein und alle bei 5 und dann",50,{"sentences":24344,"speaker":1654,"num_words":24098,"start":6022,"end":6042},[24345],{"text":24346,"start":6022,"end":6042},"so, oh, megagut, megagut irgendwie.",{"sentences":24348,"speaker":106,"num_words":24357,"start":6045,"end":6158},[24349,24350,24352,24354,24355],{"text":2640,"start":6045,"end":6046},{"text":24351,"start":6046,"end":6080},"Übrigens auch, kleine Randnotiz, 1200000000 Weekly Active Users.",{"text":24353,"start":6084,"end":6114},"ChatGPT haben Sie auch gesagt, wenn wir schon mal dabei sind.",{"text":2640,"start":6117,"end":6118},{"text":24356,"start":6118,"end":6158},"Dann son paar kleine Randnotizen noch, die Agents API können jetzt auch Computervideos unterstützen.",35,{"sentences":24359,"speaker":106,"num_words":24370,"start":6158,"end":6471},[24360,24362,24364,24366,24368],{"text":24361,"start":6158,"end":6255},"Wie gesagt, Plug ins sind verbessert, können jetzt eigenes UI mitbringen, was son bisschen mich erinnert hat an dieses, gibt's ja jetzt auch MCP mit eigenem, was eigenes UI mit ausliefern kann.",{"text":24363,"start":6258,"end":6283},"Da hab ich son bisschen, da hat mich das dran erinnert.",{"text":24365,"start":6286,"end":6397},"Und Sie haben so als kleines Gimmick am Ende vorgestellt dieses Codex Game Studio, was so aussah wie son Gameboy unter Du deine minigeweibkoteten Spiele da direkt machen kannst und haben natürlich dann jeden Teilnehmer da direkt einen verschenkt.",{"text":24367,"start":6397,"end":6434},"Da hat's mir dann 'n bisschen leidgetan, dass es nicht vor Ort dabei war.",{"text":24369,"start":6434,"end":6471},"Also wenn irgendjemand von OpenAI zuhört, das nächste Mal werden wir gerne eingeladen,",109,{"sentences":24372,"speaker":862,"num_words":106,"start":6475,"end":6476},[24373],{"text":2714,"start":6475,"end":6476},{"sentences":24375,"speaker":129,"num_words":1654,"start":6476,"end":6488},[24376],{"text":24377,"start":6476,"end":6488},"Wo war das denn?",{"sentences":24379,"speaker":106,"num_words":24327,"start":6488,"end":6590},[24380,24382,24384,24386,24387],{"text":24381,"start":6488,"end":6501},"San Francisco, so.",{"text":24383,"start":6501,"end":6538},"Wir kennen ja jetzt den Flughafen Gareth, wir kommen dahin, ist kein Thema.",{"text":24385,"start":6542,"end":6553},"Wir brauchen nur 'n Ticket.",{"text":6558,"start":6553,"end":6557},{"text":24388,"start":6560,"end":6590},"So, das ist der der Schnelldurchlauf in paar paar Minuten jetzt.",{"sentences":24390,"speaker":106,"num_words":24173,"start":6593,"end":6622},[24391],{"text":24392,"start":6593,"end":6622},"Was hat euch davon am meisten beschäftigt, mitgenommen, abgeholt?",{"sentences":24394,"speaker":1654,"num_words":24098,"start":6625,"end":6637},[24395],{"text":24396,"start":6625,"end":6637},"Also erst mal erst mal",{"sentences":24398,"speaker":657,"num_words":24105,"start":6637,"end":6701},[24399,24401],{"text":24400,"start":6637,"end":6642},"zu ultrafast.",{"text":24402,"start":6646,"end":6701},"Erst mal gibt es das NU für GPT-6 Astra und das soll aber für soll auch kommen, 6 Punkt 1 Zoll.",{"sentences":24404,"speaker":106,"num_words":24064,"start":6704,"end":6801},[24405,24407,24409,24411,24413],{"text":24406,"start":6704,"end":6724},"Okay, aber dann geht ja meine Rechnung auf.",{"text":24408,"start":6724,"end":6764},"Du kannst quasi Mit dem wenn Astra 6 1 jetzt Ach so, nein.",{"text":24410,"start":6764,"end":6785},"Es geht nur für Astra, noch nicht für soll.",{"text":24412,"start":6785,"end":6796},"Ja, aber okay.",{"text":5754,"start":6800,"end":6801},{"sentences":24415,"speaker":106,"num_words":24424,"start":6804,"end":6840},[24416,24417,24419,24421,24423],{"text":6806,"start":6804,"end":6805},{"text":24418,"start":6808,"end":6819},"Damit Doch bald.",{"text":24420,"start":6822,"end":6829},"Doch nicht gehackt.",{"text":24422,"start":6829,"end":6837},"Aber aber bald.",{"text":747,"start":6837,"end":6840},11,{"sentences":24426,"speaker":657,"num_words":184,"start":6840,"end":6881},[24427,24429,24430],{"text":24428,"start":6840,"end":6846},"aber bald.",{"text":5754,"start":6848,"end":6849},{"text":24431,"start":6852,"end":6881},"Also ich finde Copycat hört sich 'n bisschen zu negativ an.",{"sentences":24433,"speaker":106,"num_words":24444,"start":6881,"end":7236},[24434,24436,24438,24440,24442],{"text":24435,"start":6881,"end":6951},"Okay, lass mich das noch kurz, weil ich hab ja auch am Anfang sehr gesagt, ich mein das gar nicht so negativ, wie es vielleicht klingt.",{"text":24437,"start":6951,"end":7112},"Ich hab da den Stream gestern mit Krischer geschaut und da haben wir auch schon gesagt, na ja, es ist halt viel von dem, was vielleicht schon da war, aber ich glaube auch, wenn man sich Dots anguckt mit diesem Personal Agent Zeug, ist es halt schon auf 'nem sehr tolles Level und ich glaube, dass es die den Gesamtmarkt weiter nach vorne schiebt.",{"text":24439,"start":7115,"end":7161},"Weil wenn sich da son Schwergewicht hinten dran wirft und sagt, okay, wir machen das jetzt auch, ne?",{"text":24441,"start":7161,"end":7192},"Wir versuchen das, was irgendwie Notion machen will, machen wir jetzt mit Spaces.",{"text":24443,"start":7192,"end":7236},"Wir versuchen das, was irgendwie Openclaw, ich sag mal so semiprofessionell amateurhaft vielleicht irgendwie umsetzt, ja?",137,{"sentences":24446,"speaker":106,"num_words":24457,"start":7240,"end":7503},[24447,24449,24451,24453,24455],{"text":24448,"start":7240,"end":7260},"Das versuchen wir jetzt irgendwie auch selber zu machen.",{"text":24450,"start":7260,"end":7297},"Ich glaube, das bringt schon viel Gewicht mit in die richtige Richtung, so.",{"text":24452,"start":7297,"end":7369},"Und wir haben ja auch schon bei ganz vielen anderen Lounges den letzten Jahren, Jahrzehnten gesehen, dass es gar nicht immer darauf ankommt, dass Du der 1.",{"text":24454,"start":7369,"end":7422},"Bist, sondern viel entscheidender ist, dass Du's halt richtiger machst als vielleicht die anderen, die das voll dir probiert haben.",{"text":24456,"start":7422,"end":7503},"Dementsprechend gar nicht als Vorwurf gemeint, sondern einfach so, da da war, glaub ich, jetzt wenig dabei, wo man sagen müsste oder sagen könnte, das haben wir ja noch nie gesehen.",100,{"sentences":24459,"speaker":106,"num_words":24337,"start":7503,"end":7582},[24460],{"text":24461,"start":7503,"end":7582},"Aber da war viel dabei, wo man ehrlicherweise sagen musste, okay, Du hast es jetzt schon eine deutlich polischtere, besser integrierte, wie auch immer Variante von irgendwas anderem.",{"sentences":24463,"speaker":657,"num_words":24474,"start":7586,"end":7954},[24464,24466,24468,24470,24472],{"text":24465,"start":7586,"end":7666},"Ja, für mich ist halt der große, also was ich daran so spannend finde, ist, dass es halt das irgendwie noch mal so einfacher auf Unternehmensebene auch, ne, einsetzbar macht, so.",{"text":24467,"start":7666,"end":7794},"Und ich meine, ich würde uns bei Lotum als relativ irgendwie progressiv und wir können viele Sachen ausprobieren, irgendwie sehen und trotzdem ist natürlich son Roll out und irgendwie eine Nutzung über alle hinweg deutlich einfacher, wenn es einfach in der Produktqualität rauskommt, die irgendwie spannend ist.",{"text":24469,"start":7794,"end":7834},"Und wenn ich jetzt bei den letzten Modellen, vielleicht nicht, aber das ist nicht ganz richtig.",{"text":24471,"start":7834,"end":7936},"Ich wollt jetzt sagen, nicht so hyped war, die jetzt unbedingt sofort ausprobieren zu müssen, also hab ich mal in der Regel schon getan, waren jetzt hier schon Sachen dabei, wo ich so sage, oh, die würde ich gerne ausprobieren.",{"text":24473,"start":7936,"end":7954},"Ja, und das würde ich gerne machen.",141,{"sentences":24476,"speaker":657,"num_words":24487,"start":7954,"end":8172},[24477,24479,24481,24483,24485],{"text":24478,"start":7954,"end":8001},"Und ich mein, dort ist 1, das hat mir heute, hatte ich hier häufig schon noch im Podcast.",{"text":24480,"start":8001,"end":8061},"Na also, der persönliche Assistent, der endlich mal über den ganzen Kontext hinweg die ganze Zeit für mich da ist und das richtig macht.",{"text":24482,"start":8061,"end":8099},"Wir haben's irgendwie von Apple erwartet, weil sie halt den Kontext haben, deinen privaten persönlichen.",{"text":24484,"start":8103,"end":8131},"Ja, ne, Grogbot, Pokee damals und so weiter.",{"text":24486,"start":8131,"end":8172},"Und da gibt's ja gab's ja schon viele Iterationen so, die das Ganze Ja,",79,{"sentences":24489,"speaker":106,"num_words":657,"start":8172,"end":8180},[24490],{"text":24491,"start":8172,"end":8180},"Pokee, ja.",{"sentences":24493,"speaker":657,"num_words":24504,"start":8184,"end":8609},[24494,24496,24498,24500,24502],{"text":24495,"start":8184,"end":8277},"Irgendwie versucht haben und und in die Richtung gehen und wenn das jetzt noch mal einen Schritt weiter ist, der einfach irgendwie gut funktioniert und viel von dem gelernt hat, was bis jetzt, ne, noch nicht so funktioniert hat.",{"text":24497,"start":8277,"end":8389},"Und beispielsweise ist halt irgendwie dieses Sicherheitsgefühl, zumindest mal gucken, wie es dann am Ende ist, aber so, was ich jetzt gerade initial bei Dots habe, halt ein deutlich höheres, als wenn ich jetzt mein Hermes oder irgendwas aufsetze, so, ne?",{"text":24499,"start":8389,"end":8420},"Und ich hab's heute Morgen, wie nennt man das, einen erstellt.",{"text":24501,"start":8423,"end":8518},"Und ja, es ist schon irgendwie lustig, dass er dann halt so seinen eigenen Rechner hat, weißt Du und der der kann ja Sachen installieren und die Leben, also das ist einfach so irgendwie 'n cooles 'n cooler Gedanke.",{"text":24503,"start":8522,"end":8609},"Superspannend, dass der Blender bei Default einfach installiert hat so, weil es eben, also wissen, Sie haben wahrscheinlich auch festgestellt, oh, wir sind gut Astra Scouterin, drei-d-Sachen zu bauen so.",160,{"sentences":24506,"speaker":657,"num_words":24509,"start":8609,"end":8656},[24507],{"text":24508,"start":8609,"end":8656},"Also das Blender ist 'n Standard Tool, was einfach auf seinem Rechner verfügbar ist, auch, glaub ich, mit anderen",19,{"sentences":24511,"speaker":106,"num_words":24516,"start":8658,"end":8689},[24512,24514],{"text":24513,"start":8658,"end":8675},"Ja, das hat sone virtuelle Maschine.",{"text":24515,"start":8675,"end":8689},"Nein, nein, nee, der",10,{"sentences":24518,"speaker":657,"num_words":24516,"start":8689,"end":8720},[24519,24521],{"text":24520,"start":8689,"end":8716},"eigene Maschine Eigen Rechner in der in der Cloud.",{"text":2640,"start":8716,"end":8720},{"sentences":24523,"speaker":106,"num_words":24221,"start":8722,"end":8778},[24524,24525,24527],{"text":5754,"start":8722,"end":8723},{"text":24526,"start":8723,"end":8733},"Du kannst beides machen.",{"text":24528,"start":8733,"end":8778},"Also wenn Du deinen DOT erstellst, dann fragt er dich so, hier oder in der Wolke?",{"sentences":24530,"speaker":657,"num_words":906,"start":8782,"end":9009},[24531,24533,24535,24537],{"text":24532,"start":8782,"end":8787},"Oder beides.",{"text":24534,"start":8791,"end":8975},"Und da, ich weiß gar, ich wollte noch mal gucken, ich hab's noch nicht geschafft, was das fürn System ist, weil es sieht 'n bisschen aus wie Chrome OS so von der Aufmachung, weil es gibt unten sone Taskleiste und da ist deine Chrome ja als erstes Symbol, ob's das wirklich 'n Chrome Wars ist, würde ich fast denken nicht, aber zumindest optisch sieht's erst mal 'n bisschen danach aus.",{"text":24536,"start":8978,"end":8982},"Ja, schon.",{"text":24538,"start":8982,"end":9009},"Und das öffnet schon irgendwie noch mal andere Möglichkeiten und",{"sentences":24540,"speaker":106,"num_words":24551,"start":9011,"end":9466},[24541,24543,24545,24547,24549],{"text":24542,"start":9011,"end":9280},"Also, es ist ja kein Geheimnis, dass Sam Oltmann 'n großer Steve Jobs Fan ist und da auch son bisschen dem so so nacheifert und Steve Jobs hat ja damals bei der iTunes Musicvorstellung auch gesagt, so, Easy Beats free oder Simple Beats free war, glaube ich, das das Motto so, weil sie gesagt haben, 99 Cent für einen Song zum Runterladen ist halt immer noch cooler als Piracy, weil Du kannst halt im iTunes so einfach draufklicken und der ist da und Du musst dir nicht irgendwie, ne, mit komischen Sachen beschäftigen und dir irgendwelche Viren runterladen.",{"text":24544,"start":9280,"end":9304},"Und ich glaube, das ist halt genau dasselbe, ne?",{"text":24546,"start":9304,"end":9424},"Also natürlich kannst Du vieles von dem, was da jetzt schon kam, gerade mit Dots, hättest Du vorher schon mit mit Hermes machen können oder mit mit mit Pi oder OpenClo, hast Du nicht gesehen, aber wie Du halt sagst, Du musst es halt selber aufsetzen.",{"text":24548,"start":9424,"end":9442},"Du musst dich Security kümmern.",{"text":24550,"start":9442,"end":9466},"Du musst irgendwie diese ganzen Integrationen anstoßen und so.",167,{"sentences":24553,"speaker":106,"num_words":24564,"start":9468,"end":9679},[24554,24556,24558,24560,24562],{"text":24555,"start":9468,"end":9508},"Und das ist ja schon auch nicht trivial und erfordert auch einfach Zeit und Mühe und Einsatz.",{"text":24557,"start":9511,"end":9574},"Und wenn Du's jetzt einfach mit deiner OpenRA Subscription einfach mitnutzen kannst und die ganzen Grundunterhaltungen mit deinen Dots sind ja auch umsonst.",{"text":24559,"start":9574,"end":9596},"Also Du zahlst da ja nicht mehr für.",{"text":24561,"start":9596,"end":9660},"Du zahlst nur für die Arbeit, die sie quasi in dedizierte Tasks investieren, ja, machen so, ja, dann ist das dasselbe bedingt.",{"text":24563,"start":9660,"end":9679},"Dann zahl ich ja lieber meine Subscription.",77,{"sentences":24566,"speaker":106,"num_words":24342,"start":9683,"end":9817},[24567,24569,24571,24572,24574],{"text":24568,"start":9683,"end":9712},"Ich glaub, ich brauch da mindestens die Da ist das jetzt, ne?",{"text":24570,"start":9712,"end":9723},"100 Dollar Subscription.",{"text":2640,"start":9725,"end":9726},{"text":24573,"start":9729,"end":9793},"Aber dafür läuft die Sache halt und ich brauch nicht irgendwie noch 'n 'n VPS irgendwo, wo das alles drauf laufen kann und und bla bla bla.",{"text":24575,"start":9796,"end":9817},"Ja, von daher, ja Das ist cool.",{"sentences":24577,"speaker":129,"num_words":24213,"start":9821,"end":9917},[24578,24580],{"text":24579,"start":9821,"end":9856},"Ist das ja dieser Ich hab jetzt schon öfter dieses Wort gehört.",{"text":24581,"start":9859,"end":9917},"Für mich war das eben son Ding von, der hört dir die ganze Zeit zu und der kennt selber, wenn er irgendwie Aufgabe hat.",{"sentences":24583,"speaker":862,"num_words":106,"start":9917,"end":9920},[24584],{"text":864,"start":9917,"end":9920},{"sentences":24586,"speaker":106,"num_words":24593,"start":9920,"end":10067},[24587,24589,24591],{"text":24588,"start":9920,"end":9957},"Nein, das ist einfach nur der das läuft halt auf 'ner Kiste, die nicht schläft.",{"text":24590,"start":9957,"end":9994},"Das ist nicht dein Laptop, dass Du zuklappst und dann ist er halt aus.",{"text":24592,"start":9997,"end":10067},"Und dadurch, dass er auch bereust und das kann er dir immer zuhören, also das ergibt sich daraus, aber das ist nicht das, was primär damit gemeint ist.",57,{"sentences":24595,"speaker":129,"num_words":24602,"start":10069,"end":10227},[24596,24597,24599,24600],{"text":2640,"start":10069,"end":10070},{"text":24598,"start":10070,"end":10159},"Und es ist Irgendwie, ich hatte mir grad ganz kurz nur diese in dem Recap das Video dazu angeguckt und da hatten Sie aus irgend 'nem Grund direkt so Figürchen irgendwie gedruckt.",{"text":2640,"start":10159,"end":10162},{"text":24601,"start":10162,"end":10227},"War irgendwann ist das einfach nur das Baskottchen oder geht's irgendwann darum, dass Du son Figürchen dabei hast und mit dem die ganze 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Dennis.",{"text":24675,"start":11012,"end":11038},"Ich will, ich bin noch nicht so weit, Entschuldigung.",{"text":24677,"start":11041,"end":11087},"Der weitere der weitere, wir haben jetzt grad nur wir haben wir haben gerade nur über Trotz gesprochen.",{"text":24679,"start":11087,"end":11108},"Ja, aber wir könnten War sich sehr",49,{"sentences":24682,"speaker":129,"num_words":862,"start":11111,"end":11119},[24683],{"text":24684,"start":11111,"end":11119},"über dieses Thema.",{"sentences":24686,"speaker":657,"num_words":24424,"start":11119,"end":11156},[24687,24689,24691,24693,24694],{"text":24688,"start":11119,"end":11126},"Machen wir.",{"text":24690,"start":11126,"end":11136},"Was ich sehr spannend.",{"text":24692,"start":11136,"end":11144},"Heute eine Extraausgabe.",{"text":11152,"start":11149,"end":11150},{"text":11157,"start":11155,"end":11156},{"sentences":24696,"speaker":129,"num_words":184,"start":11156,"end":11202},[24697,24699,24701],{"text":24698,"start":11156,"end":11162},"Das 1.",{"text":24700,"start":11162,"end":11194},"Mal, dass eine Überleitung ab Überall ich der Jüngste bin.",{"text":24702,"start":11197,"end":11202},"Kann auch",{"sentences":24704,"speaker":657,"num_words":24173,"start":11202,"end":11227},[24705],{"text":24706,"start":11202,"end":11227},"sagen, weil Du es zum falschen Zeitpunkt moderiert hast.",{"sentences":24708,"speaker":129,"num_words":24516,"start":11231,"end":11263},[24709,24710,24712],{"text":11234,"start":11231,"end":11232},{"text":24711,"start":11232,"end":11244},"Nein, als, ja.",{"text":24713,"start":11248,"end":11263},"Geknackt zu halten und nicht 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vorkam.",{"text":2448,"start":11412,"end":11413},{"text":24738,"start":11416,"end":11476},"Denn also dort fand ich nicht das Einzige, was tatsächlich die anderen für den Arbeitskontext superinteressant finde, sind diese spaces, muss ich sagen.",{"text":2640,"start":11476,"end":11478},42,{"sentences":24742,"speaker":657,"num_words":24753,"start":11478,"end":11764},[24743,24745,24747,24749,24751],{"text":24744,"start":11478,"end":11513},"Weil das halt so die Kombination ist aus, ich mag Conference überhaupt nicht.",{"text":24746,"start":11513,"end":11531},"Wir haben mittlerweile aber einiges in Conference.",{"text":24748,"start":11535,"end":11585},"Du hast Pages, auf denen Du simultan arbeiten kannst, die Aitos können da drauf rumschreiben und so was.",{"text":24750,"start":11585,"end":11649},"Teilweise haben wir das natürlich jetzt in den Teams auch schon, ne, mit irgendwelchen Docs, die in Drehpots eingecheckt werden und irgendwie aktuell 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so",{"sentences":24765,"speaker":106,"num_words":24776,"start":11904,"end":12299},[24766,24768,24770,24772,24774],{"text":24767,"start":11904,"end":11993},"Und das hat bei der normalen extra Wert draufgelegt in der Präsentation zu sagen, das sind halt, also diese Slides und Dokumente, das sind alles Artefakte, die Du halt bearbeiten kannst.",{"text":24769,"start":11993,"end":12100},"Und diese diese Graphen und so, weil das ja ganz oft Also ich glaub, diese diese Slides, die Gemini zum Beispiel erstellt in in Google Slides, ja, das sind ja einfach nur so starre Bilder ganz oft, wo halt irgendwie alles drin ist.",{"text":24771,"start":12102,"end":12155},"Und sie einfach nur ein Bild in deine 1 light reinsetzen und dann kannst Du halt nicht mehr bearbeiten im Nachgang.",{"text":24773,"start":12155,"end":12216},"Wenn Du eine kleine Änderung machen willst, dann wird das ganze Ding neu generiert und verfälscht sich wieder an son paar Stellen und so.",{"text":24775,"start":12216,"end":12299},"Von daher haben sie, glaub ich, schon zugehört und gesehen, wo da so die Probleme und die Usability Hürden auch sind und am Ende auch wieder da, ne, Easy Beats free.",150,{"sentences":24778,"speaker":129,"num_words":24327,"start":12299,"end":12393},[24779,24781],{"text":24780,"start":12299,"end":12374},"Ich glaube, also mein einziges Gegenargument ist so, dass ich schon das Gefühl hab, dass es wichtig für uns ist, dass wir uns nicht so modular kriegen.",{"text":24782,"start":12377,"end":12393},"Und ich hab was Weiß ich",{"sentences":24784,"speaker":657,"num_words":184,"start":12393,"end":12437},[24785,24787,24789,24791,24792],{"text":24786,"start":12393,"end":12407},"nicht, dass das Nee, ja.",{"text":24788,"start":12407,"end":12418},"Geh ich nicht mit.",{"text":24790,"start":12418,"end":12426},"Erzähl weiter.",{"text":11039,"start":12426,"end":12429},{"text":24793,"start":12432,"end":12437},"Red 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es ist eine Stunde.",{"text":2640,"start":13419,"end":13420},{"text":24889,"start":13424,"end":13505},"Also oder bis aber bis jetzt hat uns, also was wir bis jetzt gesehen haben, hat uns noch nie abgehalten, dass wir irgendwo drin waren, dass wir was Neues benutzt haben in der AI Welt.",{"sentences":24891,"speaker":129,"num_words":24342,"start":13508,"end":13639},[24892,24894,24896,24898,24899],{"text":24893,"start":13508,"end":13554},"Trotzdem ist eine Stunde eine Hürde, die Du vielleicht nicht machst, wenn Du denkst, muss nicht unbedingt sein.",{"text":24895,"start":13554,"end":13600},"Und jetzt bei unseren praktisch Projekten sind wir an 'nem Punkt, wo's eigentlich komplett egal ist.",{"text":24897,"start":13600,"end":13618},"Du kannst mit Session einfach den Agent wechseln.",{"text":2640,"start":13621,"end":13622},{"text":24900,"start":13622,"end":13639},"Und es funktioniert, weil das halt 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dahingestellt.",{"text":24956,"start":14170,"end":14264},"Aber ich glaube, ganz oft traut man so sehr prinzipiell und dogmatisch auf so Sachen und sagt, okay, ich würde gerne auf jeden Fall irgendwie mir hier den Wendelock in ersparen und portabel bleiben und bla bla bla.",{"text":24958,"start":14264,"end":14287},"Und dabei ist es gar nicht immer notwendig, so.",{"text":24960,"start":14289,"end":14339},"Das nur als kleine Randnotiz für alle da draußen, die sich jetzt auch grade fragen, ob das wichtig ist oder nicht.",{"text":24962,"start":14341,"end":14349},"Ein letzter Punkt noch.",85,{"sentences":24965,"speaker":657,"num_words":24975,"start":14349,"end":14513},[24966,24967,24969,24971,24973],{"text":2640,"start":14349,"end":14351},{"text":24968,"start":14354,"end":14403},"Da ich ja hier in unsere Security COP mit drinsitze, gibt's noch einen Punkt, den ich ganz gerne erwähnen würde.",{"text":24970,"start":14406,"end":14434},"Und zwar eine Sache, die Sie auch vorgestellt haben, ist Codex Security Cloud.",{"text":24972,"start":14437,"end":14471},"Und das ist die Möglichkeit, genau, deinen Code checken zu lassen.",{"text":24974,"start":14471,"end":14513},"Einmal also 'n einmaligen Scan, aber man kann auch sagen, bei jedem Commitment et cetera.",60,{"sentences":24977,"speaker":657,"num_words":24753,"start":14516,"end":14790},[24978,24980],{"text":24979,"start":14516,"end":14555},"Und was eigentlich ganz cool ist, dass man darüber Zugriff hat auf die Modelle, was zusammenfasst.",{"text":24981,"start":14559,"end":14790},"Also das sind praktisch, Sonst haben wir ja immer in den Modellen diese Sicherheitsvorkehrungen, weil man nicht irgendwie aus Hackergründen müh Sachen machen darf und deswegen, die Modelle alle müssen eingeschränkt sind und in Daybreak sind sie halt zur Verteidigung von Lücken praktisch offen und über diesen Mechanismus, dass das über die läuft und dann die Scans von ihnen kommen, können sie halt praktisch den Models erlauben, diese Capabilities zu haben und sonst muss man sich halt vorher irgendwie daaybre war halt sehr sozusagen und man Hast",{"sentences":24983,"speaker":106,"num_words":24424,"start":14790,"end":14823},[24984,24986],{"text":24985,"start":14790,"end":14800},"Du da angemeldet?",{"text":24987,"start":14800,"end":14823},"Das ist ja nur so auf Bewerbungen hin?",{"sentences":24989,"speaker":657,"num_words":24994,"start":14826,"end":14886},[24990,24992],{"text":24991,"start":14826,"end":14871},"Nee, aber ich glaube auch, weil wir uns nicht, also weil wir uns da nicht damals nicht für qualifiziert haben irgendwie.",{"text":24993,"start":14874,"end":14886},"Jetzt nämlich vorhin wurde mir",26,{"sentences":24996,"speaker":106,"num_words":24193,"start":14886,"end":14921},[24997],{"text":24998,"start":14886,"end":14921},"das auch wieder angeboten, als ob's Jobcenter war so Daybreak jetzt einmal anschauen.",{"sentences":25000,"speaker":657,"num_words":24861,"start":14921,"end":14980},[25001,25003],{"text":25002,"start":14921,"end":14957},"Na ja, aber wie gesagt, Du kommst ja über das andere jetzt an diese Modelle.",{"text":25004,"start":14957,"end":14980},"Du musst jetzt nicht mehr Teil von Daybreak sein.",{"sentences":25006,"speaker":106,"num_words":24193,"start":14980,"end":15017},[25007,25008,25010,25012,25013],{"text":24186,"start":14980,"end":14985},{"text":25009,"start":14988,"end":15005},"Ah, weil Codex Security das mit Genau.",{"text":25011,"start":15007,"end":15010},"Ist okay.",{"text":3175,"start":15010,"end":15013},{"text":2640,"start":15013,"end":15017},{"sentences":25015,"speaker":106,"num_words":24327,"start":15019,"end":15098},[25016,25017,25019],{"text":15023,"start":15019,"end":15020},{"text":25018,"start":15020,"end":15095},"Dann einfach vielleicht vielleicht musst Du erklären, was Security COP ist oder was COP allgemein bei uns heißt, weil ich glaub, das sind Abkürzungen, die da draußen erst mal niemand versteht.",{"text":11234,"start":15095,"end":15098},{"sentences":25021,"speaker":657,"num_words":25028,"start":15100,"end":15158},[25022,25024,25026],{"text":25023,"start":15100,"end":15116},"Wir haben die nicht erfunden, oder?",{"text":25025,"start":15116,"end":15129},"COP Community of Practice.",{"text":25027,"start":15132,"end":15158},"Ich glaub, ist keine ist keine Lotum Abkürzung, meine ich.",20,{"sentences":25030,"speaker":862,"num_words":657,"start":15158,"end":15165},[25031],{"text":25032,"start":15158,"end":15165},"Ich hab",{"sentences":25034,"speaker":657,"num_words":24112,"start":15167,"end":15182},[25035,25037],{"text":25036,"start":15167,"end":15179},"Aber voll noch nie gehört.",{"text":3175,"start":15179,"end":15182},{"sentences":25039,"speaker":106,"num_words":24173,"start":15185,"end":15214},[25040,25042,25043],{"text":25041,"start":15185,"end":15194},"Freu ich aber.",{"text":15199,"start":15194,"end":15197},{"text":25044,"start":15201,"end":15214},"Also das sind auch ignorant.",{"sentences":25046,"speaker":657,"num_words":24602,"start":15214,"end":15379},[25047,25049,25051,25053,25055],{"text":25048,"start":15214,"end":15239},"Das sind bei uns Gruppengruppierungen zu unterschiedlichen Themen.",{"text":25050,"start":15239,"end":15253},"Wir haben unsere Design COP.",{"text":25052,"start":15256,"end":15277},"Bei den Devs nennen wir es 'n bisschen anders.",{"text":25054,"start":15281,"end":15337},"Des Talks aber ist sehr ähnlich und seit einiger Zeit Security AI, das sind so Community of Practices oder COP.",{"text":25056,"start":15340,"end":15379},"Hast Du recht, findet man, wenn man googelt nicht, dann ist es doch was hier erfundenes.",{"sentences":25058,"speaker":657,"num_words":862,"start":15383,"end":15393},[25059,25060],{"text":3175,"start":15383,"end":15384},{"text":25061,"start":15387,"end":15393},"Vielen Dank.",{"sentences":25063,"speaker":129,"num_words":24221,"start":15393,"end":15459},[25064],{"text":25065,"start":15393,"end":15459},"Als es zur Lotung kam, das Dow dümmste, also in der Jing soll heißt, wohl das bei jetzt mal so weit.",{"sentences":25067,"speaker":657,"num_words":24516,"start":15459,"end":15491},[25068,25069,25071],{"text":2640,"start":15459,"end":15463},{"text":25070,"start":15466,"end":15479},"Und da hatten wir einige von.",{"text":25072,"start":15483,"end":15491},"Du darfst moderieren.",{"sentences":25074,"speaker":106,"num_words":24424,"start":15496,"end":15528},[25075],{"text":25076,"start":15496,"end":15528},"Mach mal mach mal 'n geilen Übergang Gerald jetzt auf Kommandons.",{"sentences":25078,"speaker":657,"num_words":184,"start":15532,"end":15573},[25079,25081,25082,25084],{"text":25080,"start":15532,"end":15540},"Ja, ich auch.",{"text":2640,"start":15540,"end":15543},{"text":25083,"start":15546,"end":15563},"Moment, lass dich mir ganz kurz nachgucken.",{"text":25085,"start":15566,"end":15573},"Bist Du männlich?",{"sentences":25087,"speaker":862,"num_words":862,"start":15576,"end":15585},[25088,25089],{"text":2640,"start":15576,"end":15577},{"text":25090,"start":15581,"end":15585},"Oder Ja,",{"sentences":25092,"speaker":657,"num_words":24098,"start":15585,"end":15606},[25093],{"text":25094,"start":15585,"end":15606},"ist die Identifizierst sie, Moment.",{"sentences":25096,"speaker":106,"num_words":24098,"start":15610,"end":15622},[25097],{"text":25098,"start":15610,"end":15622},"Nein, das hättest Du sagen,",{"sentences":25100,"speaker":657,"num_words":24193,"start":15624,"end":15661},[25101,25103,25105,25107],{"text":25102,"start":15624,"end":15636},"identifizierst Du dich als männlich?",{"text":25104,"start":15636,"end":15647},"Das wäre wahrscheinlich 33.",{"text":25106,"start":15651,"end":15658},"Das ist richtig.",{"text":15662,"start":15658,"end":15661},{"sentences":25109,"speaker":106,"num_words":24098,"start":15664,"end":15678},[25110,25112],{"text":25111,"start":15664,"end":15672},"Aber nur beruflich.",{"text":25113,"start":15675,"end":15678},"Dann würde",{"sentences":25115,"speaker":657,"num_words":24634,"start":15678,"end":15723},[25116],{"text":25117,"start":15678,"end":15723},"ich sagen, hast Du eine Reihe, eine relativ hohe hohe Chance, weniger motiviert zu sein als vorher.",{"sentences":25119,"speaker":129,"num_words":24112,"start":15723,"end":15738},[25120],{"text":25121,"start":15723,"end":15738},"Wenn nicht so da nicht, ja.",{"sentences":25123,"speaker":657,"num_words":24357,"start":15741,"end":15841},[25124,25125,25127,25129],{"text":2640,"start":15741,"end":15742},{"text":25126,"start":15745,"end":15773},"Nein, also es geht, also es geht den State of Devs.",{"text":25128,"start":15777,"end":15831},"Das ist eine Umfrage, die es, glaub ich, jetzt schon seit 10 irgendwas Jahren oder so was gibt, also das stimmt.",{"text":25130,"start":15831,"end":15841},"Ziemlich lange",{"sentences":25132,"speaker":129,"num_words":24098,"start":15841,"end":15855},[25133],{"text":25134,"start":15841,"end":15855},"schon 'n paar Mal her.",{"sentences":25136,"speaker":657,"num_words":25147,"start":15859,"end":16032},[25137,25139,25141,25143,25145],{"text":25138,"start":15859,"end":15899},"Und wo einfach, ja, Entwickler*innen gefragt werden zu verschiedenen Themen, zu Technologien und so weiter.",{"text":25140,"start":15899,"end":15946},"Und dieses Jahr, wie könnte es auch anders sein, hat natürlich auch AI dort einiges an Einzug erhalten.",{"text":25142,"start":15946,"end":15982},"Was auch ein bisschen schade ist, dass einige der Kategorien und Fragen neu sind.",{"text":25144,"start":15985,"end":16000},"Das heißt Drehen die Vergleichswerte.",{"text":25146,"start":16003,"end":16032},"Dass es fehlen dann son bisschen die Vergleichswerte zu den Jahren vorher.",64,{"sentences":25149,"speaker":657,"num_words":25160,"start":16035,"end":16339},[25150,25152,25154,25156,25158],{"text":25151,"start":16035,"end":16168},"Beispielsweise eben, ne, was denkst Du, wie sich in den nächsten 5 Jahren irgendwie deine Karriere ändert, ohne dass Du es unter Kontrolle hast, wo so, weiß ich nicht, einen einen gutes Viertel oder mehr, ne, sagen, dass es schon wahrscheinlich ist, dass sich da was ändern wird und sich Ängste machen.",{"text":25153,"start":16170,"end":16217},"Vieles so mentale Gesundheit geht und auch das halt nicht so, ja, wird dadurch vergleichsweise nicht.",{"text":25155,"start":16217,"end":16274},"Also beispielsweise gibt's den Punkt, happing reduceded oder die Frage ist, was hast Du zuletzt erfahren, ja, so in deinem Arbeitsalltag?",{"text":25157,"start":16277,"end":16305},"Und die häufigste Antwort ist Motivation, also weniger Motivation zu haben.",{"text":25159,"start":16305,"end":16339},"Und ich frag mich son bisschen, hätte man das vor 3 Jahren gestellt, die Frage?",115,{"sentences":25162,"speaker":657,"num_words":25172,"start":16342,"end":16471},[25163,25165,25167,25169,25170],{"text":25164,"start":16342,"end":16418},"Wär die vielleicht auch relativ hochgekommen, weil man so denkt, ja, ich war irgendwie demotiviert von etwas, also ob das was sehr Menschliches ist, das irgendwie so auszudrücken.",{"text":25166,"start":16421,"end":16427},"Von daher, genau.",{"text":25168,"start":16427,"end":16459},"Aber mit Sicherheit sind da, ne Heißt das das weltweit, ne?",{"text":16463,"start":16461,"end":16462},{"text":25171,"start":16462,"end":16471},"Das ist weltweit, ja.",47,{"sentences":25174,"speaker":106,"num_words":24357,"start":16471,"end":16565},[25175,25177],{"text":25176,"start":16471,"end":16498},"Und kann man kann man da so nach Geografien filtern?",{"text":25178,"start":16498,"end":16565},"Also kann man jetzt sagen, na ja, Developer in Europa sind besonders skeptisch, Developer in USA sind irgendwie Hype, Developer in Südostasien sind besonders verzweifelt,",{"sentences":25180,"speaker":657,"num_words":25191,"start":16568,"end":16846},[25181,25183,25185,25187,25189],{"text":25182,"start":16568,"end":16585},"Weiß ich nicht, ob man's darauf filtern kann.",{"text":25184,"start":16588,"end":16629},"Also es kommen 23 Prozent aus den USA und nächstgrößte Land war Deutschland an Teilnehmenden.",{"text":25186,"start":16633,"end":16675},"Aber es sind jetzt insgesamt nicht so die Zahlen, also es sind 6000, die daran teilnehmen.",{"text":25188,"start":16675,"end":16764},"Also es ist jetzt nicht so, dass irgendwie 1000000 an die irgendwo Du dann die, deswegen macht's glaube ich nicht so viel Sinn, das stark runterzurechnen, weil dann einfach die die Größe zu klein wird.",{"text":25190,"start":16767,"end":16846},"Genau, aber auf jeden Fall ist schon irgendwo natürlich krass, wie viel Einfluss AI aktuell hat und vor allen Dingen natürlich auch, wie viele Fragezeichen, ne, ist son bisschen aus.",104,{"sentences":25193,"speaker":657,"num_words":24193,"start":16846,"end":16881},[25194],{"text":25195,"start":16846,"end":16881},"Also da ist einfach deutlich mehr Unsicherheit existiert als als in der Vergangenheit.",{"sentences":25197,"speaker":862,"num_words":24112,"start":16884,"end":16901},[25198,25200],{"text":25199,"start":16884,"end":16889},"Und ja.",{"text":25201,"start":16892,"end":16901},"Hattest Du noch eine",{"sentences":25203,"speaker":657,"num_words":24516,"start":16901,"end":16925},[25204,25206],{"text":25205,"start":16901,"end":16912},"andere Frage bei deiner Überleitung?",{"text":25207,"start":16915,"end":16925},"Oder reicht ihr das schon?",{"sentences":25209,"speaker":129,"num_words":24994,"start":16928,"end":17006},[25210,25212,25214,25216],{"text":25211,"start":16928,"end":16951},"Also das ist ja ein übelst umfangreiche Umfrage.",{"text":25213,"start":16953,"end":16976},"Also es sind superviel freien, so viel Kategorien.",{"text":25215,"start":16980,"end":17001},"Hast Du dir davon irgendwas Spezial angeguckt oder was?",{"text":17007,"start":17005,"end":17006},{"sentences":25218,"speaker":657,"num_words":25229,"start":17009,"end":17128},[25219,25221,25223,25225,25227],{"text":25220,"start":17009,"end":17017},"der AI Teil.",{"text":25222,"start":17017,"end":17050},"Ich mein, son paar Sachen ist immer, ganz irgendwie lustig mal drüber zu gucken.",{"text":25224,"start":17050,"end":17075},"Es gibt auch so was wie Hobbys oder so, ne.",{"text":25226,"start":17075,"end":17110},"Also, wo auch spannend ist, dass immer noch der größte Teil Videogames so hat.",{"text":25228,"start":17110,"end":17128},"Also ist einfach sehr klischeemäßig so, ne.",48,{"sentences":25231,"speaker":657,"num_words":25240,"start":17131,"end":17217},[25232,25234,25236,25238],{"text":25233,"start":17131,"end":17174},"Entwickler*innen spielen gerne Videospiele und genau, immerhin bei 47 Prozent ist auch Sport angesagt.",{"text":25235,"start":17177,"end":17191},"Da fällst Du leider raus.",{"text":25237,"start":17194,"end":17204},"Wie hatten wir das gestern?",{"text":25239,"start":17208,"end":17217},"Bewerbungsgespräch, ja, stimmt.",27,{"sentences":25242,"speaker":106,"num_words":24193,"start":17220,"end":17255},[25243,25244],{"text":17224,"start":17220,"end":17221},{"text":25245,"start":17226,"end":17255},"Also, wenn 1 in dieser Runde hier das Sportlichste von uns wäre,",{"sentences":25247,"speaker":657,"num_words":1654,"start":17255,"end":17265},[25248],{"text":25249,"start":17255,"end":17265},"dann ist es geil.",{"sentences":25251,"speaker":106,"num_words":1654,"start":17265,"end":17275},[25252],{"text":25253,"start":17265,"end":17275},"Da würde ich ja",{"sentences":25255,"speaker":1654,"num_words":24098,"start":17275,"end":17288},[25256],{"text":25257,"start":17275,"end":17288},"schon irgendwie auf geil tippen.",{"sentences":25259,"speaker":657,"num_words":25270,"start":17291,"end":17581},[25260,25262,25264,25266,25268],{"text":25261,"start":17291,"end":17313},"Ganzen, das nur ein bisschen zusammenfasst, ist so.",{"text":25263,"start":17316,"end":17397},"Ne, vielleicht erinnern wir uns an das Jahr 2026, wo AI halt den Impact hatte, dass es einfach so groß geworden ist, dass man es nicht mehr ignorieren konnte, so, ne.",{"text":25265,"start":17397,"end":17489},"Also es gibt, ja vorher konntest es irgendwie noch ganz gut umschiffen und ne, musstest Du nicht nicht damit auseinandersetzen und ich glaube halt dieses Jahr hat das schon fundamental geändert, dass Du keine Möglichkeit hast.",{"text":25267,"start":17489,"end":17499},"Du musst dich damit auseinandersetzen.",{"text":25269,"start":17502,"end":17581},"Du musstest einen Teil davon irgendwie von dir machen, der Großteil muss das machen und das wird schon irgendwo in die Geschichte eingehen als als sehr entscheidendes Jahr für die ganze Entwicklung.",112,{"sentences":25272,"speaker":106,"num_words":25283,"start":17585,"end":17857},[25273,25275,25277,25279,25281],{"text":25274,"start":17585,"end":17666},"Meinst Du das schon so Mainstream mäßig oder jetzt nur auf unsere, ich will gar nicht sagen Bubble, aber so auf unser Klientel, weil Du jetzt hier direkt über Developer sprichst?",{"text":25276,"start":17666,"end":17746},"Weil es gibt ja schon auch immer mal wieder Schlagzeilen, die so in dem Mainstream schaffen oder so, aber ich glaube so wirklich, Also man man muss sich, glaube ich, noch nicht damit beschäftigen.",{"text":25278,"start":17749,"end":17768},"Man kann, man man man sollte so, ja?",{"text":25280,"start":17768,"end":17831},"Ich bin Ja, ja, ja, aber ich glaube, es ist noch nicht so, dass es jetzt ja, mir mir fehlt irgendwie gerade der der passende Vergleich.",{"text":25282,"start":17834,"end":17857},"Also ich glaub Ja, ich weiß, was Sie 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machen.",86,{"sentences":25298,"speaker":106,"num_words":862,"start":18100,"end":18109},[25299],{"text":25300,"start":18100,"end":18109},"Ja, aber Du",{"sentences":25302,"speaker":657,"num_words":862,"start":18109,"end":18117},[25303],{"text":25304,"start":18109,"end":18117},"bist schon dann",{"sentences":25306,"speaker":106,"num_words":24025,"start":18117,"end":18253},[25307,25309,25310],{"text":25308,"start":18117,"end":18136},"quasi eher so passiv Betroffener, ne.",{"text":2640,"start":18136,"end":18139},{"text":25311,"start":18139,"end":18253},"Es ist so, wie man sich vor 'n paar Jahren vielleicht son bisschen darum Gedanken machen musste, wie so Algorithmen und Social Networks irgendwie funktionieren, weil die halt viel beeinflussen, aber wirklich 'n Akteur bist Du ja dann nicht in dem in dem ganzen Ding.",{"sentences":25313,"speaker":657,"num_words":25324,"start":18253,"end":18646},[25314,25316,25318,25320,25322],{"text":25315,"start":18253,"end":18364},"Das ist aber auch für mich wieder diese, also sonst ist ja mein Argument, wo ich so sage, es wird nicht den großen Knall geben, auch in der Zukunft nicht, weil das das Potenzial dafür hätten wir jetzt sehr schon und es wird ja nicht genutzt.",{"text":25317,"start":18364,"end":18472},"Wir nutzen ja auch da wieder auf Deutschland gesehen einen einen Bruchteil von dem, was AI könnte so in all den Rollen, einfach weil auch verständlicherweise die Strukturen nicht da sind, die Leute nicht da sind, ne, dass das Mindset nicht da ist.",{"text":25319,"start":18475,"end":18586},"Und von daher, das ist, glaube ich, das wird schon länger dauern oder lange dauern, so, bis das irgendwie adaptiert ist, bis die Jobs vielleicht dann wirklich wegfallen in manchen Bereichen oder so was, einfach weil's aus den Strukturen nicht so schnell gehen kann, so aktuell.",{"text":25321,"start":18589,"end":18626},"Und ja, da, wo man's vielleicht noch am stärksten merkt, ist dann der Dev Bereich.",{"text":25323,"start":18629,"end":18646},"Und das führt uns doch zu deinem Thema.",158,{"sentences":25326,"speaker":129,"num_words":25337,"start":18649,"end":18880},[25327,25329,25331,25333,25335],{"text":25328,"start":18649,"end":18749},"Klar, ja, 'n Teil davon, dass auch verlässt ja in Deutschland die Motivation oder auch diese Umfrage bisschen negativ ausgefallen ist, ist, dass es bei uns in Deutschland in der Berufslandschaft, gerade für Einsteiger, irgendwie bisschen traurig passiert.",{"text":25330,"start":18753,"end":18797},"Also wir hatten ja 'n extremes Hoch, zumindest in der IT, das hab ich auch gemerkt.",{"text":25332,"start":18801,"end":18845},"So 20 22, Mitte 20 22 war die die Menge an Jobs oder an Jobangeboten riesig.",{"text":25334,"start":18845,"end":18857},"Es war so der Peak.",{"text":25336,"start":18862,"end":18880},"Seitdem ist das 2 Drittel 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Markt ist, der gerade abnimmt, aber KI das läuft schon mal beschleunigt hat, das wirklich dazu führt, dass diese Branche irgendwie gerade schwächer wird oder Im Einstiegsbereich.",{"text":20236,"start":20233,"end":20234},{"text":25440,"start":20238,"end":20249},"Im Einstiegsbereich, ja klar.",{"text":25442,"start":20249,"end":20310},"Die reden jetzt nicht über andere, aber ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es in also im Nichteinstiegsbereich so viel nach oben geht.",{"text":25444,"start":20310,"end":20338},"Hab ich keine Zahlen zu, also wenn ihr da was wisst, gerne.",69,{"sentences":25447,"speaker":129,"num_words":24034,"start":20341,"end":20366},[25448],{"text":25449,"start":20341,"end":20366},"Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es da irgendwie jetzt rosig aussieht.",{"sentences":25451,"speaker":106,"num_words":24342,"start":20370,"end":20507},[25452,25454,25456],{"text":25453,"start":20370,"end":20413},"Also ich kann hab jetzt natürlich auch keine konkreten belastbaren Zahlen oder so, aber so anekdotische Daten.",{"text":25455,"start":20413,"end":20490},"Wenn ich mir anguck, wie viele Headhunter Anfragen in meinem LinkedIn Postfach pro Woche landen, hat sich das Gefühl in den letzten paar Jahren nicht groß geändert.",{"text":25457,"start":20494,"end":20507},"Weder nach oben noch nach unten.",{"sentences":25459,"speaker":129,"num_words":24098,"start":20507,"end":20523},[25460],{"text":25461,"start":20507,"end":20523},"Okay, würd's auch mal interessieren.",{"sentences":25463,"speaker":657,"num_words":1654,"start":20527,"end":20535},[25464],{"text":25465,"start":20527,"end":20535},"Ich könnte mir vorstellen,",{"sentences":25467,"speaker":106,"num_words":24173,"start":20537,"end":20561},[25468],{"text":25469,"start":20537,"end":20561},"Ja, die Zahl von einem Post macht, die würd",{"sentences":25471,"speaker":657,"num_words":25482,"start":20561,"end":20804},[25472,25474,25476,25478,25480],{"text":25473,"start":20561,"end":20572},"mich mal echt interessieren.",{"text":25475,"start":20575,"end":20609},"Was vielleicht auch ist, dass einfach die Schere da auch weiter auseinandergeht, ne?",{"text":25477,"start":20609,"end":20779},"Also das heißt, diejenigen, die jetzt sehr gut sind und jetzt sehr gefragt sind, tendenziell noch mehr auch verlangen können und noch gefragter sind, also dass man für diese Position, na, sehr viel auch bereit ist auszugeben von mir aus und dass der ganze andere Bereich, wo das nicht so ist und da fallen dann Junior Positionen auch dazu, dass die noch ohne interessanter werden.",{"text":25479,"start":20781,"end":20789},"Ja, das dran ich.",{"text":25481,"start":20789,"end":20804},"Würd ich unterschreiben, glaub ich.",91,{"sentences":25484,"speaker":129,"num_words":24034,"start":20808,"end":20843},[25485,25487],{"text":25486,"start":20808,"end":20832},"Tja, 'n bisschen irgendwie traurige Schlussnote, finde ich.",{"text":25488,"start":20832,"end":20843},"Also, mich war's 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ne?",{"text":25512,"start":20973,"end":21021},"Und wir müssen irgendwie gesellschaftlich und Unternehmen und und so weiter, wir müssen alle gucken, wie geht es irgendwie weiter?",{"text":25514,"start":21021,"end":21044},"So, und das sind natürlich viele Fragezeichen, die da sind.",{"text":25516,"start":21047,"end":21118},"Und andererseits ist ja bei so 'ner Disruption und bei Dingen, die irgendwie passieren, ist auch erst mal okay, dass jetzt nicht alles optimal so im ersten Schritt wird.",82,{"sentences":25519,"speaker":657,"num_words":24919,"start":21118,"end":21151},[25520],{"text":25521,"start":21118,"end":21151},"Und es wird jetzt, es wird sich ja auch, das wird sich ja irgendwie weiterentwickeln.",{"sentences":25523,"speaker":129,"num_words":24221,"start":21154,"end":21208},[25524],{"text":25525,"start":21154,"end":21208},"Schon, aber stell dir mal vor, Du kommst ausm Studium, hast irgendwie angefangen mit ITs das Beste, kommst Du raus, dann",{"sentences":25527,"speaker":1654,"num_words":657,"start":21208,"end":21215},[25528],{"text":25529,"start":21208,"end":21215},"stehst Du.",{"sentences":25531,"speaker":106,"num_words":24509,"start":21218,"end":21259},[25532],{"text":25533,"start":21218,"end":21259},"Ja, das ist natürlich auch, wenn Dennis das sagt oder wenn wir das hier sagen, kommt das natürlich auch",{"sentences":25535,"speaker":657,"num_words":24861,"start":21259,"end":21316},[25536,25538],{"text":25537,"start":21259,"end":21274},"aus 'ner sehr privilegierten Position, ne.",{"text":25539,"start":21276,"end":21316},"Ja, natürlich und natürlich ist das kacke, so, aber das wahrscheinlich aber schon mal passiert in anderen Bereichen.",{"sentences":25541,"speaker":129,"num_words":24213,"start":21319,"end":21416},[25542,25544,25546],{"text":25543,"start":21319,"end":21366},"Klar, dass das jetzt kein Einzelfall ist, schon, aber dass mich das traurig macht, ist doch Also auch verständlich.",{"text":25545,"start":21369,"end":21382},"Ich werd gern eine andere Zeit.",{"text":25547,"start":21382,"end":21416},"Ich hätt gern das New Share Wert, wo es gleich gefackelt.",{"sentences":25549,"speaker":106,"num_words":24112,"start":21421,"end":21436},[25550],{"text":25551,"start":21421,"end":21436},"Zumindest so in 15 Jahren wieder,",{"sentences":25553,"speaker":1654,"num_words":24112,"start":21440,"end":21455},[25554],{"text":25555,"start":21440,"end":21455},"wenn es dein Freund relevant wird.",{"sentences":25557,"speaker":657,"num_words":657,"start":21457,"end":21463},[25558],{"text":25559,"start":21457,"end":21463},"Ja, ja.",{"sentences":25561,"speaker":129,"num_words":24634,"start":21463,"end":21507},[25562],{"text":25563,"start":21463,"end":21507},"Das ist ein, das das, klar, dass das nicht vielleicht mal braucht und das alles eine 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erzählen.",{"text":25579,"start":21748,"end":21766},"Und zwar hab ich diese Woche das 1.",{"text":25581,"start":21766,"end":21803},"Mal seit langem oder seitdem ich mich dran erinnern kann, Microsoft User beneidet.",{"sentences":25583,"speaker":106,"num_words":24342,"start":21807,"end":21940},[25584,25586,25588,25590,25592],{"text":25585,"start":21807,"end":21824},"So, das kommt ja schon selten vor.",{"text":25587,"start":21828,"end":21833},"Oh, ja.",{"text":25589,"start":21835,"end":21895},"Ohne jetzt zu haaten, aber es gibt halt einfach jetzt nicht so das eine Ding, wo ich sagen würde, das läuft da irgendwie so viel geiler.",{"text":25591,"start":21898,"end":21935},"Und ihr seid ja bestimmt alle Fans von diesen haptischen Trackpads in euren MacBooks.",{"text":21942,"start":21935,"end":21940},{"sentences":25594,"speaker":657,"num_words":24098,"start":21944,"end":21954},[25595],{"text":25596,"start":21944,"end":21954},"bin ich im Fan 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gerne.",{"text":25668,"start":22840,"end":22889},"Wer jetzt noch da weiß und das hört, es würd mich sehr über ein Feedback freuen unter Nee, Anruf.",{"sentences":25670,"speaker":106,"num_words":24105,"start":22893,"end":22955},[25671,25673,25675],{"text":25672,"start":22893,"end":22911},"Nein, Podcast at Programmier Punkt bar.",{"text":25674,"start":22911,"end":22945},"Okay, über den Teil brauchen wir kein Feedback, das regeln wir im Nachgang selbst.",{"text":25676,"start":22949,"end":22955},"Muss ich sagen.",{"sentences":25678,"speaker":129,"num_words":24646,"start":22955,"end":23002},[25679,25681],{"text":25680,"start":22955,"end":22982},"Oder direkt an mich selbst, an Garelt at Programmier Punkt Bar.",{"text":25682,"start":22982,"end":23002},"Ich freu mich immer über Wer nimmt's?",{"sentences":25684,"speaker":106,"num_words":24877,"start":23005,"end":23065},[25685,25686],{"text":23008,"start":23005,"end":23006},{"text":25687,"start":23010,"end":23065},"Ihr könnt auch einfach in der 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